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Post by jonbain on Aug 1, 2021 19:08:42 GMT
As for my first assertion, can anyone here PROVE that genetics is anything more than pseudo-science?
In specific all the racial classification going on,
which to me simply looks like the sophistry of racism.
Is there an experiment I can actually do that has some meaningful use here?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Aug 23, 2021 22:42:38 GMT
1. And that graph forms into branches. Under "y" circumstances "x" branching occurs. Under "a" circumstances "b" branching occurs. 2. Genetics is the passing on of traits, these traits (such as height, weight, eye color, mental disorders (such as bipolar)) are not limited to strictly a racial division. 3. The classifications are probabilistic in regards to point number 2. Bipolar mental disorder is little different to post-traumatic-stress disorder, it has no genetic basis - its purely a psychological consequence of trauma.
That genetic classification claims such ideas their own, is fairly typical of those who perpetuate the racist fallacy: considering their classifications to be a separation of "superior" and "inferior" genes: racism. Height and weight is a consequence of nutrition as much as anything
in terms of human qualities. But this is regarding the human sphere of genetics.
However, we can see here
... that breeding animals for traits is a process that was known long before anybody came up with genetic classifications, regardless of the imperfection in the understanding or the clumsiness of the wording - the process originates from ideas that have nothing to do with genetic science.
What specifically has genetic science added to this obvious process?
1. Post traumatic stress disorder is a result of environment, bipolor disorder (while still possible a result of environment) is a set of characteristics which are passed down with these genetic traits appearing under specific circumstances. In simpler terms bipolar is a passed down response to how something responds to certain environmental characteristics. Schizophrenia has similar attributes in these regards. 2. Genetics is the study of traits which pass down from organisms. While some traits are argued as superior or inferior based on the field of genetics, the field of genetics does not make these judgements of inferior or superior. 3. The presence of someone who is a midget is grounded in certain prevalent genes. Being susceptible to excessive weight is also subject to genes. This is further presented under the body types (endomorph, mesomorph, etc. (if memory recalls these names correctly)). 4. Breeding animals for traits is genetic classification as these traits themselves are classifications.
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Post by jonbain on Aug 25, 2021 14:48:23 GMT
1. You repeat the claim without proof of genetics. Logically we can see that bipolar is good moods and bad moods. PTSD has precisely the same symptoms; except the trauma has been identified. Families grow up in the same environments and thus are most likely to be exposed to the same trauma.
2. Blatant contradiction.
3. Midgets existed before 'genetic science', so its nothing new, thus proving that 'genetic science' has contributed nothing to the issue. It has been known since the time of genesis that such occurs. But what has the so-called 'science' contributed here? NOTHING
4. Still nothing new here. Just fancy words to describe what the writers of Genesis already knew.
Maybe reread the question?
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Aug 30, 2021 19:53:48 GMT
The Upper Class Turns the Bottom-Feeders Loose on the Middle
Nobody discriminates based on skin color. A lot used to in the past especially. That is how we had slavery in America. The dark skin colored people became slaves and had no rights simply because of their color. They still get discriminated today but it isn't that common. Sometimes! . My brother is white but works in the sun and is tanned. Some thought he was Mexican before or something. During Their 400 Years in America, Africans Have Never Been Treated Worse Than They DeservedSlavery was punishment. People who act like wild animals need to be tamed. It had nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with the fact that the savages had not evolved into homo sapiens. So they have been living on borrowed time because their evolutionary expiration date is long past. The only way they would deserve to survive is by serving us.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 2, 2021 17:21:53 GMT
A lot used to in the past especially. That is how we had slavery in America. The dark skin colored people became slaves and had no rights simply because of their color. They still get discriminated today but it isn't that common. Sometimes! . My brother is white but works in the sun and is tanned. Some thought he was Mexican before or something. During Their 400 Years in America, Africans Have Never Been Treated Worse Than They DeservedSlavery was punishment. People who act like wild animals need to be tamed. It had nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with the fact that the savages had not evolved into homo sapiens. So they have been living on borrowed time because their evolutionary expiration date is long past. The only way they would deserve to survive is by serving us. Not quite. Whoever decided to kidnap those people from their homes in Africa were savages. Kidnappers belong in jail last I checked too. They're just lucky they're not alive now or they will be in court and not pulling this junk. Must have been terrible to live around egoistical robotic mind controlled people back then. I am lucky I stay away from such people now. I still know one though that needs a loony bin. That ego is sky high and apparently "smarter than every other person's" .
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Sept 2, 2021 18:02:14 GMT
During Their 400 Years in America, Africans Have Never Been Treated Worse Than They DeservedSlavery was punishment. People who act like wild animals need to be tamed. It had nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with the fact that the savages had not evolved into homo sapiens. So they have been living on borrowed time because their evolutionary expiration date is long past. The only way they would deserve to survive is by serving us. Not quite. Whoever decided to kidnap those people from their homes in Africa were savages. Kidnappers belong in jail last I checked too. They're just lucky they're not alive now or they will be in court and not pulling this junk. Must have been terrible to live around egoistical robotic mind controlled people back then. I am lucky I stay away from such people now. I still know one though that needs a loony bin. That ego is sky high and apparently "smarter than every other person's" . You Can't Make Free Men Believe in Make-BelievePostmodern anthropology is a stupidly slanted manifesto against White people and full of fake terminology. Stone Age people and later savages were not "hunter-gatherers"; they were hunter-bandits. In Africa, it's tribal genocide all the time, which has been carried over here to Black-on-Black crime. Only slavery provided safety from that.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 2, 2021 18:41:12 GMT
Not quite. Whoever decided to kidnap those people from their homes in Africa were savages. Kidnappers belong in jail last I checked too. They're just lucky they're not alive now or they will be in court and not pulling this junk. Must have been terrible to live around egoistical robotic mind controlled people back then. I am lucky I stay away from such people now. I still know one though that needs a loony bin. That ego is sky high and apparently "smarter than every other person's" . You Can't Make Free Men Believe in Make-BelievePostmodern anthropology is a stupidly slanted manifesto against White people and full of fake terminology. Stone Age people and later savages were not "hunter-gatherers"; they were hunter-bandits. In Africa, it's tribal genocide all the time, which has been carried over here to Black-on-Black crime. Only slavery provided safety from that. Which shouldn't have been carried over. No one had a right to take a ship there and take anything. Some weirdos just can't mind their own business I guess and must steal to make themselves feel better. The lowlifers were better off staying put and learning to survive on their own...or die. Whatever they decided.
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Post by jonbain on Sept 2, 2021 19:29:29 GMT
Not quite. Whoever decided to kidnap those people from their homes in Africa were savages. Kidnappers belong in jail last I checked too. They're just lucky they're not alive now or they will be in court and not pulling this junk. Must have been terrible to live around egoistical robotic mind controlled people back then. I am lucky I stay away from such people now. I still know one though that needs a loony bin. That ego is sky high and apparently "smarter than every other person's" . You Can't Make Free Men Believe in Make-BelievePostmodern anthropology is a stupidly slanted manifesto against White people and full of fake terminology. Stone Age people and later savages were not "hunter-gatherers"; they were hunter-bandits. In Africa, it's tribal genocide all the time, which has been carried over here to Black-on-Black crime. Only slavery provided safety from that. Don't see how anybody can claim to know exactly what everybody was doing 400 years ago.
But many of the slaves were sold by their african owners after battles, so you are partially correct at first.
But after time and money became involved, there were also reportedly many opportunists who just enslaved people who had previously been free too.
So you have a very lop-sided view of the situation in reality.
As for tribal genocide in africa, perhaps compare these quite minor conflicts to world-war 1 & 2, and its quite clear that african culture is more advanced on an ethical level than old-world european culture at least.
Then take a look at the ever diminishing natural environment and only Africa is progressed enough to consider this at all.
Of course the likes of the ANC govt are little more than puppets of their afrikaner masters and are making all the same mistakes of the europeans. Proving that these issues are all very malleable, and that people are pretty much people, as circumstances can change very quickly.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Sept 3, 2021 17:18:39 GMT
You Can't Make Free Men Believe in Make-BelievePostmodern anthropology is a stupidly slanted manifesto against White people and full of fake terminology. Stone Age people and later savages were not "hunter-gatherers"; they were hunter-bandits. In Africa, it's tribal genocide all the time, which has been carried over here to Black-on-Black crime. Only slavery provided safety from that. Which shouldn't have been carried over. No one had a right to take a ship there and take anything. Some weirdos just can't mind their own business I guess and must steal to make themselves feel better. The lowlifers were better off staying put and learning to survive on their own...or die. Whatever they decided. Africa Owes Us Damages for Selling Us Defective Merchandise
The only right an unevolved, unfit, and obsolete humanoid species has to survive beyond its evolutionary expiration date is to serve the superior races.
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Post by jonbain on Sept 3, 2021 21:27:40 GMT
thesageofmainstreetyou will get the slavery you are asking to become sooner than you can imagine your decimation of the buffalo is a crime against the entire world and you are too cowardly to even use a real name
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 4, 2021 23:02:31 GMT
Genetics is classification. No, genetics is not classification. As Wikipedia say: Genetics is a branch of biology concerned with the study of genes, genetic variation, and heredity in organisms. Genetics really started with Mendel who was a Augustinian friar. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that no one here understands genetics or has stood up for it. We live in an idiocracy where increasing numbers of people believe that the Earth is flat. I post to forums like this one (one of the few where I haven't been banned) in the hope of finding intelligent life, but it mostly seems futile. I always find it entertaining when I come across people that think that they can't find intelligent life outside of their own magnificently perfect brain And are using methods of analyzing information and understanding life that they themselves didn't even come up with One would think that if somebody truly thought that they were smart and intelligent and that there might be other smart intelligent people out there but they would come up with their own understanding and their own guidelines and format for judging the external world and it's food eaters that inhabit it I mean it's truly ironic it's like watching the group of retarded kids eating glue while one of the other retarded kids that was late to the party laughs at them calling them idiots as he eats his own tub of tasty paste that his parents gave him. or in other words if you're going to act like you're smarter than everybody else at least be original and don't use the methods guidelines and rules made by the very people you think are retarded. try to be unique for the love of God
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Post by fschmidt on Sept 5, 2021 0:33:45 GMT
I always find it entertaining when I come across people that think that they can't find intelligent life outside of their own magnificently perfect brain And are using methods of analyzing information and understanding life that they themselves didn't even come up with One would think that if somebody truly thought that they were smart and intelligent and that there might be other smart intelligent people out there but they would come up with their own understanding and their own guidelines and format for judging the external world and it's food eaters that inhabit it I mean it's truly ironic it's like watching the group of retarded kids eating glue while one of the other retarded kids that was late to the party laughs at them calling them idiots as he eats his own tub of tasty paste that his parents gave him. or in other words if you're going to act like you're smarter than everybody else at least be original and don't use the methods guidelines and rules made by the very people you think are retarded. try to be unique for the love of God Ugh. There is no point saying anything original if existing knowledge covers the issue, as was the case here. I have plenty of original ideas on society and programming elsewhere. Some are here: www.mikraite.org/I know of some other intelligent people but they are all sociopaths. Specifically Bill Gate and George Soros. I do not know of any other intelligent people who are not sociopaths. Since decent intelligent people are extinct (except for me), my plan is to breed them back into existence.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 5, 2021 1:51:06 GMT
I always find it entertaining when I come across people that think that they can't find intelligent life outside of their own magnificently perfect brain And are using methods of analyzing information and understanding life that they themselves didn't even come up with One would think that if somebody truly thought that they were smart and intelligent and that there might be other smart intelligent people out there but they would come up with their own understanding and their own guidelines and format for judging the external world and it's food eaters that inhabit it I mean it's truly ironic it's like watching the group of retarded kids eating glue while one of the other retarded kids that was late to the party laughs at them calling them idiots as he eats his own tub of tasty paste that his parents gave him. or in other words if you're going to act like you're smarter than everybody else at least be original and don't use the methods guidelines and rules made by the very people you think are retarded. try to be unique for the love of God Ugh. There is no point saying anything original if existing knowledge covers the issue, as was the case here. I have plenty of original ideas on society and programming elsewhere. Some are here: www.mikraite.org/I know of some other intelligent people but they are all sociopaths. Specifically Bill Gate and George Soros. I do not know of any other intelligent people who are not sociopaths. Since decent intelligent people are extinct (except for me), my plan is to breed them back into existence. What I said apparently went over your head because you did not grasp the meaning of my statement I will leave it alone because it's pointless to try to clarify any further but I will leave you with this as my interpretation of your outlook on life enjoy
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Post by jonbain on Sept 5, 2021 8:29:33 GMT
fschmidt To get back to the point from earlier; as regarding the foundation of the method of science on logic. (A) If 2 photons move apart in opposite directions from a light-bulb; using either of the frames of reference for either of the photons; WHAT is the relative velocity of either photon in comparison to one another after 1 second? and/or (B1) If a photon departs my nose; is the velocity of my nose relative to that photon at light-speed? (B2) If something has a velocity of light-speed then what is its mass according to Einstein's relativity? (B3) The answer to B2 is that my nose now has infinite mass relative to the reference frame of the photon, which makes it a black-hole, and thus would not be able to emit that photon. (B4) Seeing as though the formula result in an impossible answer, it is clear that Einstein's theories are false? and/or (C) Can you identify any immediately verifiable predictions in genetic science? This is beyond the commonly observed traits being passed down the generations, which have been known about since before the microscope?
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 5, 2021 10:15:18 GMT
fschmidt To get back to the point from earlier; as regarding the foundation of the method of science on logic. (A) If 2 photons move apart in opposite directions from a light-bulb; using either of the frames of reference for either of the photons; WHAT is the relative velocity of either photon in comparison to one another after 1 second? and/or (B1) If a photon departs my nose; is the velocity of my nose relative to that photon at light-speed? (B2) If something has a velocity of light-speed then what is its mass according to Einstein's relativity? (B3) The answer to B2 is that my nose now has infinite mass relative to the reference frame of the photon, which makes it a black-hole, and thus would not be able to emit that photon. (B4) Seeing as though the formula result in an impossible answer, it is clear that Einstein's theories are false? and/or (C) Can you identify any immediately verifiable predictions in genetic science? This is beyond the commonly observed traits being passed down the generations, which have been known about since before the microscope? I completely agree with you that Einstein is a moron however may I ask how are you observing these photons?
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Post by jonbain on Sept 5, 2021 15:16:55 GMT
MAYA-ELIt does not really matter how we observe them, as its a hypothetical thought experiment to demonstrate the various models. But we can use any device that can detect light, whether it is a digital camera or even an old-school chemical camera, so long as it accurately records the time at the event. It would be easy to get side-tracked by issues such as details of which model camera, and if they are in space, and how close is the earth's gravitational field, etc. So it REALLY does not matter how, because we are just demonstrating the model of physics and the role that logic plays in how we get to the answer. Anyone can troll the problem by asking about solar flares and insist they must be effecting the cameras, etc. The point being that if, after 1 second the 1st photon is 300 thousand km to the left, and the other photon is 300 thousand km to the right, its clear that the comparative velocity between them can only be 600 000 km/s. Now the Einsteinians insist that it must be no more than 300 000 km/s. Because "that what Einstein said". So how is it that 600 divided by 1 equals 300? They ignore that, and just quote a formula, (or link) which cannot be logically applied. This is much how "genetics works" - the theory "dictates reality" to the point that the theory is all that matters, and its illogical conclusions are just said to be logical, because the theory is always right, and that is why its famous. Naked emperor logic.
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