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Post by Elizabeth on May 21, 2018 4:56:24 GMT
Directions: If you agree with even one thing on the side of theologians then vote theologians. Only vote God if agree with everything on God's side and with nothing on theologians side. God | Theologians/People | God 1 and 2. You must continue in the learning of the Holy Scriptures because THEY are there to make you WISE for receiving salvation in your faith. It's all from God as the profitable doctrine for instruction to correct others and be complete for God. (2 Timothy 3:14-17) (God on authority/creed) Christians must have no authority over each other and live ONLY by Jesus' example in Scripture (Matthew 20:25-28, 1 Peter 2:21)
3. All sinned and fell short of God's glory (Romans 3:23) and only Christ is the example for us (1 Peter 2:21)
4. You're purified by Christ in obeying the truth in the Spirit and are born again (1 Peter 1:22, 23)
5. Fear Him for He can send you to hell (Matthew 10:28) | 1. A. The Scriptures and the Gospels, the Apostolic Church and the early Church Fathers, are the foundation. (Anglican theologians on authority) B. Bible, church fathers, popes, bishops; Seven Ecumenial Councils; Trent, Vatican, and other councils (Catholic theologians on authority) C. The Scriptures, both the Old and New Testaments, along with Sacred Apostolic Tradition. Plus seven Ecumenical Councils. (Orthodox theologians on authority) D. Standards of belief are to be found in the Bible and in the Church's historic Confession of Faith (Presbyterian theologians on authority)
2. A. The Three Creeds, Nicene Creed, Athanasius's Creed, and that which is commonly called the Apostles' Creed, ought thoroughly to be received and believed. (Angican theologians on creed) B. Special focus on Apostles' Creed and Nicene Creed (Catholics and Methodist theologians on creed) C. Scripture with Sacred Apostolic Tradition. Plus the seven Ecumenical Councils. (Orthodox theologians on creed) D. Scripture and in the Church's historic Confession of Faith. (Presbyterian theologians on creed)
3. A. Mary was sinless always (Catholic theologians on Mary) B. Regarded as a model for Christians (Presbyterian theologians on Mary)
4. All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified. after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. (Catholic theologians on Purgatory)
5. Hell may or may not exist (Presbyterian theologians on hell)
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Warnings: 1 Timothy 6:3-5 3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.2 Timothy 4:3-4 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. Matthew 15:9 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. Note: I was just informed that tapatalk users do not see the side by side chart. Best to look at the website since it mixes it up for you there. :/
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 25, 2018 22:35:50 GMT
Who made up the argument scripture is literally God? Literally? No. Just Jesus spoke in scripture. And Jesus is the Word of God. So Jesus or the Word of God is only found in scripture. Youre are not even interested in the subject for as I said before - you just are not profitable this!
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 25, 2018 22:38:27 GMT
There is a heavenly kingdom, Sion, heavenly Jerusalem. Scripture says there is. So you cannot admit that you are wrong about saints on earth being allowed to pray to saints in heaven who then mediate and make intercession for saints on earth? There is no scripture backing this, and yet you will not repent of this belief? Why do I need to wait for any clergy, and pope, scholar, or ecumenical council to explain the real meaning of any part of the Bible? Why can I not rely on the Holy Spirit? Why do I have to wait for a man to tell me what scripture says? Why can I not just take scripture for what it says and believe it? why should I regret my views when Scripture says - read the incident of Saul and Samuel about which I wrote above!-
The scripture you quoted there in 1 Samuel 28 isn't talking about prayer at all. 1 Samuel 28 is actually a very good example of someone(Saul) putting their faith in a woman instead of God, and the result is God departs from Saul because he did not obey God.
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 25, 2018 22:44:41 GMT
why should I regret my views when Scripture says - read the incident of Saul and Samuel about which I wrote above!-
The scripture you quoted there in 1 Samuel 28 isn't talking about prayer at all. 1 Samuel 28 is actually a very good example of someone(Saul) putting their faith in a woman instead of God, and the result is God departs from Saul because he did not obey God. It's not important, the other is important ... it's just to avoid an answer! Half an hour has passed! I wrote clearly - the meaning of prayer to the saints .. read carefully and it does not contradict this text .. you just hypocrisy in this topic!
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Post by Elizabeth on May 25, 2018 22:58:14 GMT
Literally? No. Just Jesus spoke in scripture. And Jesus is the Word of God. So Jesus or the Word of God is only found in scripture. Youre are not even interested in the subject for as I said before - you just are not profitable this! In following the church? Of course not! Church isn't God. Church must follow God. So people must follow God. Simple But sad not many churches are going to heaven as the bible says so it's good we follow God not a church that might go to hell!
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Post by Elizabeth on May 25, 2018 23:01:35 GMT
The scripture you quoted there in 1 Samuel 28 isn't talking about prayer at all. 1 Samuel 28 is actually a very good example of someone(Saul) putting their faith in a woman instead of God, and the result is God departs from Saul because he did not obey God. It's not important, the other is important ... it's just to avoid an answer! Half an hour has passed! I wrote clearly - the meaning of prayer to the saints .. read carefully and it does not contradict this text .. you just hypocrisy in this topic! It contradicts it right here. Matthew 6:9 9 In this manner, therefore, pray:Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. The right way to pray here it says is to the heavenly Father because only God is amazing and no one can take His place
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 25, 2018 23:02:19 GMT
Youre are not even interested in the subject for as I said before - you just are not profitable this! In following the church? Of course not! Church isn't God. Church must follow God. So people must follow God. Simple But not many churches are going to heaven as the bible says so it's good we follow God not a church that might go to hell! The Church is the pillar and the affirmation of truth! The history of the church must be known in order to understand these issues! But too liberal and superficial approach to history In the United States does not allow you to understand even the essence of the topic and situation ... I also include not only a religious approach but also historical and critical!
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 25, 2018 23:07:25 GMT
It's not important, the other is important ... it's just to avoid an answer! Half an hour has passed! I wrote clearly - the meaning of prayer to the saints .. read carefully and it does not contradict this text .. you just hypocrisy in this topic! It contradicts it right here. Matthew 6:9 9 In this manner, therefore, pray:Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. The right way to pray here it says is to the heavenly Father because only God is amazing and no one can take His place ты со своим другом ни разу правильно меня не поняли здесь!абсолютно полный 0! моя задача всего лишь обличить лицемерия -шо вот мы все только по Библии и богословы вам не нужны..
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 25, 2018 23:08:56 GMT
Specifically, this place is not written here! But of course I'm joking and just hinting that there are a lot of places in the Scripture that you do not seem to be seeing right away ... this applies to pray to saints and so on ... the list can be continued! DKTrav88 Honestly, the fact that you brought does not say specifically about the abolition of this place! I'm really starting to question your ability to comprehend what you're reading in scripture. This chapter applies, 1 Corinthians 2 1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. 6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ. As well as this verse, John 1:5 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 25, 2018 23:16:09 GMT
This wisdom was given by God to the Church! The church is not a man to lie .. it is separate from our world in its essence because it is the body of Christ! I see that you do not understand my opinion here because my position in biblical-historical ecclesiastical continuity ... and of course when I see the new Russell on the Internet he needs to resist!
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 25, 2018 23:19:33 GMT
The scripture you quoted there in 1 Samuel 28 isn't talking about prayer at all. 1 Samuel 28 is actually a very good example of someone(Saul) putting their faith in a woman instead of God, and the result is God departs from Saul because he did not obey God. It's not important, the other is important ... it's just to avoid an answer! Half an hour has passed! I wrote clearly - the meaning of prayer to the saints .. read carefully and it does not contradict this text .. you just hypocrisy in this topic! prayer to the saints isn't in scripture, I showed you this already in scripture. I'm about done talking about it because you're ignoring scripture or you just plain don't understand it. Either way there is no point in continuing a discussion. Matthew 10:14 14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 25, 2018 23:28:54 GMT
ΔιαμονδWhy do you lie about your age on arktos?
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 25, 2018 23:31:24 GMT
Διαμονδ Why do you lie about your age on arktos? this is a serious question?? I do not belong to the my Profile here seriously! Nothing more!
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