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Post by Elizabeth on May 21, 2018 4:56:24 GMT
Directions: If you agree with even one thing on the side of theologians then vote theologians. Only vote God if agree with everything on God's side and with nothing on theologians side. God | Theologians/People | God 1 and 2. You must continue in the learning of the Holy Scriptures because THEY are there to make you WISE for receiving salvation in your faith. It's all from God as the profitable doctrine for instruction to correct others and be complete for God. (2 Timothy 3:14-17) (God on authority/creed) Christians must have no authority over each other and live ONLY by Jesus' example in Scripture (Matthew 20:25-28, 1 Peter 2:21)
3. All sinned and fell short of God's glory (Romans 3:23) and only Christ is the example for us (1 Peter 2:21)
4. You're purified by Christ in obeying the truth in the Spirit and are born again (1 Peter 1:22, 23)
5. Fear Him for He can send you to hell (Matthew 10:28) | 1. A. The Scriptures and the Gospels, the Apostolic Church and the early Church Fathers, are the foundation. (Anglican theologians on authority) B. Bible, church fathers, popes, bishops; Seven Ecumenial Councils; Trent, Vatican, and other councils (Catholic theologians on authority) C. The Scriptures, both the Old and New Testaments, along with Sacred Apostolic Tradition. Plus seven Ecumenical Councils. (Orthodox theologians on authority) D. Standards of belief are to be found in the Bible and in the Church's historic Confession of Faith (Presbyterian theologians on authority)
2. A. The Three Creeds, Nicene Creed, Athanasius's Creed, and that which is commonly called the Apostles' Creed, ought thoroughly to be received and believed. (Angican theologians on creed) B. Special focus on Apostles' Creed and Nicene Creed (Catholics and Methodist theologians on creed) C. Scripture with Sacred Apostolic Tradition. Plus the seven Ecumenical Councils. (Orthodox theologians on creed) D. Scripture and in the Church's historic Confession of Faith. (Presbyterian theologians on creed)
3. A. Mary was sinless always (Catholic theologians on Mary) B. Regarded as a model for Christians (Presbyterian theologians on Mary)
4. All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified. after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. (Catholic theologians on Purgatory)
5. Hell may or may not exist (Presbyterian theologians on hell)
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Warnings: 1 Timothy 6:3-5 3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.2 Timothy 4:3-4 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. Matthew 15:9 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. Note: I was just informed that tapatalk users do not see the side by side chart. Best to look at the website since it mixes it up for you there. :/
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Post by Elizabeth on May 21, 2018 21:04:45 GMT
God protects Christianity/His children. He did say He will be with us always. And God always said there will be heresies anyway. He said to test them and withdraw from those with a different doctrine who mix bible with other material. 2 Thessalonians 3 2 and that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; for not all have faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful, who will establish you and guard you from the evil one. Very good, but you just do not know the mechanisms of this action .. you just have not been taught this and nothing more. Shrug The bible/God teaches the mechanism. I know it! You are doubting God's power. Don't do that!
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 21, 2018 21:08:39 GMT
Revelation 22 18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. It is specifically about the book of Revelation. Who said that this part of the Scripture was written by the very last one ?? It is at the end of the New Testament because it is so decided by Carthage counsil (if I am not mistaken about the name of Council) I do not believe in people .. I believe that God acted through people ... starting with the apostles. (Yes, before too) You have no arguments against this! You have not been taught this.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 21, 2018 21:14:04 GMT
Revelation 22 18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. It is specifically about the book of Revelation. Who said that this part of the Scripture was written by the very last one ?? It is at the end of the New Testament because it is so decided by Carthage counsil (if I am not mistaken about the name of Council) I do not believe in people .. I believe that God acted through people ... starting with the apostles. (Yes, before too) You have no arguments against this! You have not been taught this. No. God's word ends with NT/new convent. No other material needed. This is like the mormons with an extra new covenant facepalm
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 21, 2018 21:15:42 GMT
No. God's word ends with NT/new convent. No other material needed. This is like the mormons with an extra new covenant ты не розбираешся в ситуации...ваша позиция это только подход баптистов ! в таком подходе получаеться шо Слова Бога закончилась и не будет больше(никакого Слова) словно было и прошло.. Он конечно протестант но его позиция по многим протестантским позициям очень ясна!
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Post by Elizabeth on May 21, 2018 21:17:01 GMT
No. God's word ends with NT/new convent. No other material needed. This is like the mormons with an extra new covenant ты не разбираешся в ситуации...ваша позиция это только подход баптистов ! I don't care about Baptists. Not all Baptist are going to heaven! God only said those who follow scripture do.
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 21, 2018 21:21:23 GMT
ты не разбираешся в ситуации...ваша позиция это только подход баптистов ! I don't care about Baptists. Not all Baptist are going to heaven! God only said those who follow scripture do. There is no unity?
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Post by Elizabeth on May 21, 2018 21:27:50 GMT
I don't care about Baptists. Not all Baptist are going to heaven! God only said those who follow scripture do. There is no unity? It has nothing to do with unity. It's about who's worshipping in spirit and in truth. Many will fail to do so bible says. John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 21, 2018 22:25:15 GMT
I don't care about Baptists. Not all Baptist are going to heaven! God only said those who follow scripture do. There is no unity? Luke 12:51 KJV [51] Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 21, 2018 22:25:40 GMT
Why do you refuse to give the praise, thanks, honor, and glory to God? Why do you give it to men? God is the only reason we have His word today, the ONLY reason. Without Him nothing is possible. Too much pathos! facepalm As usual you aren’t making sense 🤦🏼♂️
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 22:59:35 GMT
In respect to the interpretation of religion theology is inevitable considering this interpretation in itself is an act of reasoning. To argue the necessity of a theologian or not is to fundamentally argue against whether there can be an interpretation or not. Whether at the individual subjective or group objective level of religion, theology is inevitably as a religious form of philosophical reasoning.
The impression I am getting is that the question stems from whether a subjective or group objective interpretation of theology should be legitimized. In these respects we can go back to common sense where an individual bases subjective reasoning off of the reasoning of group and the group is determined by the universal agreement between subjective arguments. In this manner a dual subjective and group interpretation of theology is not only necessary but inevitable.
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Post by Lone Wanderer on May 22, 2018 4:04:56 GMT
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Post by Elizabeth on May 22, 2018 4:47:55 GMT
You click on view voters. I did a rectangle around it see? And then you'll see this... Can you view them now?
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 22, 2018 5:34:23 GMT
Too much pathos! As usual you aren’t making sense 🤦🏼♂️ у тебя нету смысла...гуляй!
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 22, 2018 6:05:44 GMT
As usual you aren’t making sense 🤦🏼♂️ у тебя нету смысла...гуляй! I’ll go for a walk with God, you can go with the theologians.
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Post by fschmidt on May 22, 2018 6:55:20 GMT
Διαμονδ and fschmidt please look again into the theologian side. The protestants are there as well. Not all protestants follow God. You don't even know if your own spouse will go to heaven Jesus said. The problem is Jesus was upset with Jews because they with their Tumult or whatever it's called and their tradition made God's word of no effect. They added things they shouldn't have and no longer obeyed God but their own writing. Why were there Saducees, Pharisees, and other sects? Because they made their own writings and Jesus rejected them. They are like the denominations today. And Jesus is very unhappy. God only gave the law and nothing else is needed. Revelation 22 18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Deuteronomy 4:2 says the same as your quote. The Jews at the time of Jesus violated this by elevating tradition to the level of scripture. But just respecting tradition without considering it to be on the level of scripture does not violate these quotes. Think of the analogy of a nation with a constitution and laws. If laws are considered to be on the level of the constitution then the constitution loses its meaning and the nation has no anchor. But if the nation only has a constitution with no laws, the result is chaos. One needs both a constitution and laws. In religion, scripture is the constitution, and traditions introduced by theologians and accepted by the laity form the laws. This produces stability.
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