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Post by Elizabeth on May 13, 2018 10:30:26 GMT
Are you for it or against? And why?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 10:34:47 GMT
Yes. It seems to be rational for me. I don't understand love marriages, they are based of feelings which aren't stable. I would say, the government has to care about the question of marriages, or at least businessmen. People are too blind to count on their own in important questions. If there are many arrange marriages, I will reckon such society to be a brilliant one.
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Post by AmericanCharm on May 13, 2018 10:47:26 GMT
I am against them in general sense. I can see how sometimes it’s works out to be what is for the best, but I think generally it goes against free will, freedom of choice. Many instances a person may not connect with the arranged individual nor find them physically attractive. There are instances where there is somebody else out there who is a better fit for a certain individual, who cares more for them, who has better chemistry with them.
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 13, 2018 10:49:47 GMT
Against them. Nothing about an arranged marriage is genuine
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Post by Elizabeth on May 13, 2018 10:50:34 GMT
I am against them. You should have free will in who you marry and to marry for love only so it is a person you know and trust. This is not up to the parents who you marry. They are only there to raise you and when you become and adult you live by your own free will.
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Post by fashtag on May 13, 2018 12:15:25 GMT
I think one should want their parents' blessing and care about their parents' opinions and give it some consideration. However, I ultimately I don't think arranged marriages are ideal. Still, with the dysfunction between men and women in western/white nations resulting in the importation of replacement people and cultures, it's starting to look more appealing.
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Post by joustos on May 13, 2018 15:47:27 GMT
I am against arranged marriages, since everyone should make his/her own mistakes. However, I am not against parents or friends suggesting a particular partner to a person of marriageable age (and then trying to arrange the marriage).
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Post by mastrongnssideon on May 14, 2018 0:26:20 GMT
If you are unable to subjugate a woman non violently or without arranged marriage, youre probably to tier to be breeding anyway
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 13:55:20 GMT
The question on the nature of arranged marriages breaks down to the evidence, with the evidence being determined by the questions asked:
Do marriages made by personal choice last longer or shorter than arranged marriages?
Do cultures which practice arranged marriage last longer or shorter than cultures which do not practice arranged marriages?
Do arranged marriages necessarily hamper the free will of the individual since arrangement is made by parties who know the subjective nature of these said individuals?
Do arranged marriages necessarily hamper the free will of the community since arrangement is dependent upon individuals who are subjective extensions of an objective group?
Do cultural frameworks dependent on "marriages of personal choice" promote unnecessary relationship hazards (ie dating as practice of temporary relationships)?
Do cultural frameworks dependent on "arranged marriages" promote unnecessary relationship hazards?
What are the rates of relationship violence in arranged vs non-arranged marriages?
a) The definition of "violence" would be the pivotal point on which the answer rotates; hence it's definition would decide the answer.
What are the economic benefits of arranged versus non-arranged marriages?
Is the nature of marriage determined by the technology status of the civilization?
a) If so what roles does technology play in determining the relationships itself? a1) Gender roles?
x) The questions can go on and on.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 14:22:33 GMT
Against them. Nothing about an arranged marriage is genuine And what is genuine about a marriage made by personal choice considering the factors which determine individual characteristics oftentimes are by products of group behavior?Take for instance the question of faith within an individual's identity. While the faith may be an act of "choice", to a degree, by the individual the rational structure of the faith is determined by outside groups which may not always be "genuine" to the person's subjective identity. An act of modification in which the individual either changes his/her personal behavior or that of the group occurs.Even if we are to take the nature of "personal choice" in marriage as the premise from which a culture decides relationships, we are not necessarily being "genuine" if we follow it. In simpler terms an individual following a culture of individuals is fundamentally acting as part of a group. In these respects what is "genuine" can be interpretted as a deficiency in personal choice.Considering that all relationships are not just dependent upon the subjective nature of the individual but the barriers of time and space which determine not just the individual's place (status, health, finances, emotions, etc.) a non-subjective degree of arrangement is provided by the larger group which determines these factors. In simpler terms, we may argue personal relationship's are subject to individual choice, but if the choices are limited by the environment which determines them how is this not just an approximate form of an arranged marriage?In simpler terms, to summate the brief argument with a statement that is even briefer: "genuineness" is rarely genuine to those who percieve it as such.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:40:51 GMT
For the record, from both practical experience and the observation of the environment I am both currently in and those I have observed, the dating system is a complete failure and forges the habit of not just failed relationship and subjective standards which are both irrational and obscure, but simultaneously causes a fracturing of the human condition at both the individual and group level.
Arranged marriages, when balanced with the free will of the potential participants, appears not just the most practical methodology but one which maintains group cohesion. Contrary to modern views of the nuclear family, families at the larger level are joined through the act of marriage; hence marriage is a community involved activity and not strictly one relegated to the individual "lovers".
Even at the individual level, when marrying for "love", a certain imbalance keeps reoccurring (according to both what I have observed subjectively and objectively) where one individual "loves" the individual more than the other. In this manner "love", while an element of marriage which has necessity, does not appears to be the most stable premise from which to measure the stability of the relationships as it often times not just appears fickle but is subject to change when certain environmental variables are added (change in financial status, health, status, etc.)
The simple truth, one I have observed all too often, in that in the nature of "love" women generally do not know what they want or do not want and appear to not just to adapt but change according to the framework presented to them. In simpler terms when a man marries a woman, he marries an extension of a communities values, hence an "arrangement" is made whether intended or not. Barring repulsion or some other extreme physical or psychological stress on the part of the woman, I have not seen much success in regards to them having the choice men have when presented in a culture which say's do as thou will. The reason for this is because women, generally as nurturers, nurture what ever is in front of them regardless of its moral inclination.
In a culture which prizes individualism, women embody this and reason from a strictly emotional position which is not entirely congruent to the whole nature of the human condition as "mind" "body" and "spirit", not just "body" and "spirit".
Love appears, to me at least, something which is not so much measured in the very finite process of dating but seems to extends from an intertwining of people where there characters are intertwined under the limits of time and space.
In a culture of constant change, this nature of love as ordered and premised through time, in itself becomes finite and is relegated to an extension of the chaotic environment from which it comes.
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Post by fschmidt on May 16, 2018 20:57:11 GMT
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Post by Elizabeth on May 16, 2018 22:32:10 GMT
Against them. Nothing about an arranged marriage is genuine And what is genuine about a marriage made by personal choice considering the factors which determine individual characteristics oftentimes are by products of group behavior?Take for instance the question of faith within an individual's identity. While the faith may be an act of "choice", to a degree, by the individual the rational structure of the faith is determined by outside groups which may not always be "genuine" to the person's subjective identity. An act of modification in which the individual either changes his/her personal behavior or that of the group occurs.Even if we are to take the nature of "personal choice" in marriage as the premise from which a culture decides relationships, we are not necessarily being "genuine" if we follow it. In simpler terms an individual following a culture of individuals is fundamentally acting as part of a group. In these respects what is "genuine" can be interpretted as a deficiency in personal choice.Considering that all relationships are not just dependent upon the subjective nature of the individual but the barriers of time and space which determine not just the individual's place (status, health, finances, emotions, etc.) a non-subjective degree of arrangement is provided by the larger group which determines these factors. In simpler terms, we may argue personal relationship's are subject to individual choice, but if the choices are limited by the environment which determines them how is this not just an approximate form of an arranged marriage?In simpler terms, to summate the brief argument with a statement that is even briefer: "genuineness" is rarely genuine to those who percieve it as such.Love makes a marriage strong. If I was ever in an arranged marriage with someone I don't love and want nothing to do with then I would request my own bedroom with a lock. He can be a roommate. If he enters my room he will get hurt! I'll only agree to such terms. If I really want kids then I'll adopt them.
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Post by Elizabeth on May 16, 2018 22:40:58 GMT
To be honest someone tried to set up an arranged marriage for me before. I refused to see him or speak to him. I don't even know his name xD was given a picture though that I kindly returned. I said, "Sure, plan the wedding day. Make it as beautiful as you want. You can show me pictures of how it went later."
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Post by Lone Wanderer on May 16, 2018 22:45:54 GMT
Failure and don't work for many people. Marriage is an important and critical decision in your life. So you should choose and decide by yourself. Arranged marriages may be OK in a village-like or tribal society and work for such communities BUT not in modern societies.
I think every thing that remove or limit your freedom is a poison. That poison may not kill you instantly but it would bring pain and suffering to your life which will finally destroy your life.
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