sam0033
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Post by sam0033 on Jan 20, 2018 10:53:45 GMT
I like ottoman history.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 20, 2018 10:57:14 GMT
What do you like about it?
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 20, 2018 11:01:45 GMT
Why do you like this problem empire?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 11:04:48 GMT
Why do you like this problem empire? Why people should love just stable and unproblem things, Diamond? I was joking. I find the Empire interesting too.
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Post by sam0033 on Jan 20, 2018 11:05:24 GMT
Why do you like this problem empire? Why people should love just stable and unproblem things, Diamond? I was joking. I find the Empire interesting too. Yes..me too
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 20, 2018 11:38:46 GMT
Why do you like this problem empire? Why people should love just stable and unproblem things, Diamond? I was joking. I find the Empire interesting too. Of course it's interesting! But the Ottomans in their time brought many misfortunes to their neighbors! Remember the Armenian Genocide of 1915?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 11:49:39 GMT
I like ottomans, I use them to rest my legs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 11:50:50 GMT
sick man of europe, they were.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 20, 2018 11:58:09 GMT
sick man of europe, they were. Yes! This was said by Nicholas I. He did a lot to destroy them in his time!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 11:58:50 GMT
sick man of europe, they were. In comparison to Byzantines they were pretty cruel, although the Byzantines themselves also had some extreme rulers.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 20, 2018 12:01:54 GMT
But there was an interesting moment in the history of Ottomans when ruled this empire Suleiman and his wife Roksolana(Hurrem Sultan)!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 12:26:31 GMT
Afonso de Albuqurque, duke of goa, wanted to dismantle this ottoman empire forever, and he had made a terrible conquest, and never allowed USMANIS or OTTOMAN to islamize the indian subcontinent. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afonso_de_AlbuquerqueAfonso is generally considered a military genius,[8][9] and "probably the greatest naval commander of the age"[10] given his successful strategy—he attempted to close all the Indian Ocean naval passages to the Atlantic, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, and to the Pacific, transforming it into a Portuguese mare clausum established over the opposition of the Ottoman Empire and its Muslim and Hindu allies.[11] In the expansion of the Portuguese Empire, Afonso initiated a rivalry that would become known as the Ottoman–Portuguese war, which would endure for many years. Many of the Ottoman–Portuguese conflicts in which he was directly involved took place in the Indian Ocean, in the Persian Gulf regions for control of the trade routes, and on the coasts of India. It was his military brilliance in these initial campaigns against the much larger Ottoman Empire and its allies that enabled Portugal to become the first global empire in history.[12] He had a record of engaging and defeating much larger armies and fleets. For example, his capture of Ormuz in 1507 against the Persians was accomplished with a fleet of seven ships.[13] Other famous battles and offensives which he led include the conquest of Goa in 1510 and the capture of Malacca in 1511. He became admiral of the Indian Ocean, and was appointed head of the "fleet of the Arabian and Persian sea" in 1506.[2]
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 12:27:26 GMT
sick man of europe, they were. In comparison to Byzantines they were pretty cruel, although the Byzantines themselves also had some extreme rulers. oleg of novogorod taught byzantines some harsh lessons, though his death was unfortunate for INDO EUROPEAN civilization.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 12:28:59 GMT
But there was an interesting moment in the history of Ottomans when ruled this empire Suleiman and his wife Roksolana(Hurrem Sultan)! by that time, ottomans or usmani were heading towards destruction.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 12:43:29 GMT
Why people should love just stable and unproblem things, Diamond? I was joking. I find the Empire interesting too. Of course it's interesting! But the Ottomans in their time brought many misfortunes to their neighbors! Remember the Armenian Genocide of 1915? there's nothing interesting in this empire, they were just terrible. Apart from writing poems, and choosing best stock of girls from harems, their kings were completely useless. Though they had trade relations with the britishers, who used to supply them arms and weapons in those days, using which, they were persecuting georgians, armenians, austria etc, but eventually, vlad dracul stood up, though, got killed by his own brother. But this empire was always going to be dismantled.
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