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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 17, 2020 1:41:38 GMT
//This would be way before the Scandinavians spread into Germany//this is highly unlikely to happen, because there are ample evidences of pagan german and pagan norway/sweden/danes warring against each other. The post is about how norse became christian, all of a sudden from being a pagan society. And all the royal houses of the norway king used to pay homage to the same god odin, whom even anglo saxon used to worship. It were the anglo saxons who converted to christianity, and there were series of battles with the norwegian kings, so the french speaking vikings or normans, finally became christian. This clearly shows that scandinavian, germans are a different people, in all terms, cutlurally, racially, ethnically, otherwise, why the war has to happen, despite worshipping the same god? Even if that's the case, why do a person of german origin needs a visa to move to norway or vice versa? The borders do exist, not just physical, but at moral level also. Because, the person whom these royal house were worshipping as god, actually was a person who ruled on them. He did not have to go there physically, but took it under there jurisdiction, in such manner, that every one thinks, he made a visit to those nation. And as jonbain has already stated, this nordic paganism was an 8th century thing, which is true also, because thor did not have blue eyes blond haired, as he was from asia minor, which means, even the poetic eddas were mythologies and they spoke about a dynasty, who did not have to pay a visit to north anyways, but can control by their army, long time back, and the pagan norwegeian kings were using those works, and even after their conversion, they were extending, not before socialism took there. BTW, did I forget to mention, that eddas also talks about the arrival of third anti christ, yes, norway or nordic countries, whom hitler was pitching as master race, talks about third anti christ, and it's from central asia mythos. The argument of "why if they were similar culturally did they fight each other," is a very weak argument. Before the Viking age happened the Vikings were raiding each other. The Anglo Saxon kingdoms in England always warred among one another for dominance. The Gaelic kingdoms and Ireland warred among one another as well. These people were ethnically similar and worshipped the same gods. Cultural and religious similarity throughout history has never stopped people from waging war against each other that's just a painfully silly and simplistic argument ignorant of history. You say that Norse paganism originated in the 8th century; that is an extraordinary claim that you need to back up with evidence so I challenge you to prove it. Thor didn't have blonde hair, he had red hair which was common among Norse peoples. Other gods like Freya did have blonde hair, black hair, grey hair etc which is common among Norsemen. You're asking why someone from Germany needs a visa to visit Norway or vice versa. Again that's a bizarre argument on your part. They are different countries and Norway is not in the European Union so there is no free movement. A German however CAN enter Denmark and Sweden because they are in the European Union. And once again the borders between Denmark and Germany have despite jonbain's historically illiterate statements been fuzzy. Again Denmark and Germany have always argued and fought wars over whether Schleswig-Holstein was a part of Germany or Denmark. I'm arguing with two historically illiterate people with an anti German axe to grind about the well substantiated historical fact that Scandinavians are and were Germanic and that Germans worshipped Scandinavian/Germanic gods. Arguing against the fact that Scandinavians are Germanic and that Germans worshipped Scandinavian gods when they were pagan is like arguing the earth is flat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2020 9:45:57 GMT
//This would be way before the Scandinavians spread into Germany//this is highly unlikely to happen, because there are ample evidences of pagan german and pagan norway/sweden/danes warring against each other. The post is about how norse became christian, all of a sudden from being a pagan society. And all the royal houses of the norway king used to pay homage to the same god odin, whom even anglo saxon used to worship. It were the anglo saxons who converted to christianity, and there were series of battles with the norwegian kings, so the french speaking vikings or normans, finally became christian. This clearly shows that scandinavian, germans are a different people, in all terms, cutlurally, racially, ethnically, otherwise, why the war has to happen, despite worshipping the same god? Even if that's the case, why do a person of german origin needs a visa to move to norway or vice versa? The borders do exist, not just physical, but at moral level also. Because, the person whom these royal house were worshipping as god, actually was a person who ruled on them. He did not have to go there physically, but took it under there jurisdiction, in such manner, that every one thinks, he made a visit to those nation. And as jonbain has already stated, this nordic paganism was an 8th century thing, which is true also, because thor did not have blue eyes blond haired, as he was from asia minor, which means, even the poetic eddas were mythologies and they spoke about a dynasty, who did not have to pay a visit to north anyways, but can control by their army, long time back, and the pagan norwegeian kings were using those works, and even after their conversion, they were extending, not before socialism took there. BTW, did I forget to mention, that eddas also talks about the arrival of third anti christ, yes, norway or nordic countries, whom hitler was pitching as master race, talks about third anti christ, and it's from central asia mythos. The argument of "why if they were similar culturally did they fight each other," is a very weak argument. Before the Viking age happened the Vikings were raiding each other. The Anglo Saxon kingdoms in England always warred among one another for dominance. The Gaelic kingdoms and Ireland warred among one another as well. These people were ethnically similar and worshipped the same gods. Cultural and religious similarity throughout history has never stopped people from waging war against each other that's just a painfully silly and simplistic argument ignorant of history. You say that Norse paganism originated in the 8th century; that is an extraordinary claim that you need to back up with evidence so I challenge you to prove it. Thor didn't have blonde hair, he had red hair which was common among Norse peoples. Other gods like Freya did have blonde hair, black hair, grey hair etc which is common among Norsemen. You're asking why someone from Germany needs a visa to visit Norway or vice versa. Again that's a bizarre argument on your part. They are different countries and Norway is not in the European Union so there is no free movement. A German however CAN enter Denmark and Sweden because they are in the European Union. And once again the borders between Denmark and Germany have despite jonbain's historically illiterate statements been fuzzy. Again Denmark and Germany have always argued and fought wars over whether Schleswig-Holstein was a part of Germany or Denmark. I'm arguing with two historically illiterate people with an anti German axe to grind about the well substantiated historical fact that Scandinavians are and were Germanic and that Germans worshipped Scandinavian/Germanic gods. Arguing against the fact that Scandinavians are Germanic and that Germans worshipped Scandinavian gods when they were pagan is like arguing the earth is flat. Let the viking, jonbain say that his ancestor is Thor. Any part about Thor's red color or etc comes after the eddas, in the sagas, which is a christian myth, because, norweigians converted to chritianity.He himself has stated that the eddas came into 8th century, and I have vague idea about indo european myth to some extent. Thor infact was a pagan god, whose relic was from a bygone era, which means, his rule was extinct, and was being remembered in the sagas. This poem talks about thor's beard, and of course, I did not see any COLOR being mentioned here: Thor was angry when he awoke
and missed his hammer;
his beard bristled, his hair stood on end,
the son of Earth began to grope about.
and this: “Hár hans er fegra en gull”
Well, I am not saying germans were worshipping scandinavian god, but the gods which the pagan germans worshipped were the same god which pagan sancidnavian were worshipping. But, even after worshipping, they did fight against each other. Now, what I am interested is about the conversion part, not the ancestry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 11:21:59 GMT
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Post by jonbain on Apr 22, 2020 21:25:40 GMT
//The Irish, Highland Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Manx, and Breton are Celtic because they have a related language, culture, history, and deities. The term Germanic similarly refers to such a related ethnic grouping. The Germanic peoples speak a Germanic language, descend from Germanic tribes, and worshipped basically the same Germanic gods. These people include the Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Germans, Swiss Germans, Austrians, Luxembergers, English, Lowland Scots, Dutch, Flemish, Farose, Icelanders, Frisians, Afrikaners, and these peoples' diaspora across the worl// I am not denying about the europeans not being europeans, as I don't believein the crap what's written in the media, that europeans are migrants and all, and blue eyes blonde hairs came from some african and bullcrap. It's clear, that europeans ruling classes were always present, with the same blue eyes blond hairs, a paritcular people, whom they worshipped during pre chrisitniasation did come, brought the languages as their dialects, when their rule got over, the european ruling classes again warred against each other. In 8th century, after arabs conquest, these ruling classes were turned into gods, so as to fight the foreigners. So all those mythlogies of thor and odin. Up until recent centuries, the evolution of languages were very fluid. The idea that some languages are 'Germanic' is sheer political propaganda, and has very little to do with linguistic dynamics as they really occurred in those times. Those who perpetuate the myth of a 'greater Germanism' are subconsciously demonstrating their allegiance to the Hitler archetype. 'Germany' is a construct of recent origin that should have been entirely eradicated 70 years ago. Often you will read how English is Germanic too. This is sheer brainwashing by the krauts. English has far more words in common with French, and France existed as a state for far longer than anyone else in all of Europe. Anyone who tries to label me as 'Germanic' is asking for a taste of Mjolnir. As for that sassenach with the racist flag, its really not worth trying to teach such mensch anything as they have no clue what understanding is, and will just mindlessly repeat that which has already long been disproven.
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Post by jonbain on Apr 22, 2020 21:39:20 GMT
I am inclined to reckon that the Norse mythos itself was actually a reaction to potential Christian conversion. Before the actual conversion, there were certainly numerous failed attempts. Fearing a loss in power to the middle-eastern ideology, its likely that Scandinavians constructed the Skald to compensate. There are numerous elements in the Skald that actually seem to have originated from Christianity. For instance the first man and woman are called: Ash and Elm. (Adam and Eve) The sacred tree: Yggdrasil has a very similar symbolism to the tree of life, and even Baldur's death is an echo of the Crucifixion. Helheim is hell. The resonance is vast beyond this too. Of course the Skald seems to also echo the Greek mythos, and some would have it that the ancestors of the Vikings were actually the refugees of Troy. If you look at ship-building, there is a clear similarity with the Greek vessels too; so this is very likely. Its possible that a smattering of Greek mythos eventually became solidified as a 'religion' in the 8th century. The Saxons of England would have already migrated before adopting this new post-Christian religion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 2:44:41 GMT
//The Irish, Highland Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Manx, and Breton are Celtic because they have a related language, culture, history, and deities. The term Germanic similarly refers to such a related ethnic grouping. The Germanic peoples speak a Germanic language, descend from Germanic tribes, and worshipped basically the same Germanic gods. These people include the Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Germans, Swiss Germans, Austrians, Luxembergers, English, Lowland Scots, Dutch, Flemish, Farose, Icelanders, Frisians, Afrikaners, and these peoples' diaspora across the worl// I am not denying about the europeans not being europeans, as I don't believein the crap what's written in the media, that europeans are migrants and all, and blue eyes blonde hairs came from some african and bullcrap. It's clear, that europeans ruling classes were always present, with the same blue eyes blond hairs, a paritcular people, whom they worshipped during pre chrisitniasation did come, brought the languages as their dialects, when their rule got over, the european ruling classes again warred against each other. In 8th century, after arabs conquest, these ruling classes were turned into gods, so as to fight the foreigners. So all those mythlogies of thor and odin. Up until recent centuries, the evolution of languages were very fluid. The idea that some languages are 'Germanic' is sheer political propaganda, and has very little to do with linguistic dynamics as they really occurred in those times. Those who perpetuate the myth of a 'greater Germanism' are subconsciously demonstrating their allegiance to the Hitler archetype. 'Germany' is a construct of recent origin that should have been entirely eradicated 70 years ago. Often you will read how English is Germanic too. This is sheer brainwashing by the krauts. English has far more words in common with French, and France existed as a state for far longer than anyone else in all of Europe.Anyone who tries to label me as 'Germanic' is asking for a taste of Mjolnir.As for that sassenach with the racist flag, its really not worth trying to teach such mensch anything as they have no clue what understanding is, and will just mindlessly repeat that which has already long been disproven. BINGO!!!!! English is not even english, but became english, only after the norman invasion, who were french speaking scandinavians. britons had their own native language, derived from gauls. You are scandinavian
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 2:49:55 GMT
I am inclined to reckon that the Norse mythos itself was actually a reaction to potential Christian conversion.
Before the actual conversion, there were certainly numerous failed attempts. Fearing a loss in power
to the middle-eastern ideology, its likely that Scandinavians constructed the Skald to compensate.
There are numerous elements in the Skald that actually seem to have originated from Christianity. For instance the first man and woman are called: Ash and Elm. (Adam and Eve) The sacred tree: Yggdrasil has a very similar symbolism to the tree of life, and even Baldur's death is an echo of the Crucifixion. Helheim is hell. The resonance is vast beyond this too. Of course the Skald seems to also echo the Greek mythos, and some would have it that the ancestors
of the Vikings were actually the refugees of Troy. If you look at ship-building, there is a clear similarity
with the Greek vessels too; so this is very likely. Its possible that a smattering of Greek mythos eventually became solidified as a 'religion' in the 8th century. The Saxons of England would have already migrated before adopting this new post-Christian religion. Not the greek, but what icelandic poet has wrtiten was this, about the ancestors of NORSEMEN: The Prologue is the first section of four books of the Edda, consisting of an euhemerized Christian account of the origins of Nordic mythology: the Nordic gods are described as human Trojan warriors who left Troy after the fall of that city (an origin similar to the one chosen by Geoffrey of Monmouth in the 12th century to account for the ancestry of the British nation, and which parallels Virgil's Aeneid). According to Edda, these warriors settled in northern Europe, where they were accepted as divine kings because of their superior culture and technology. You are spot on, by saying that these mythos were a reconstruction to the response of christian conversion by people, and may be, only elite classes were doing it. And from there, the vague reference of Thor and Odin. Mythos of thors become more prominent when vikings were on the voyage to discover america.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 12:37:46 GMT
//The Irish, Highland Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Manx, and Breton are Celtic because they have a related language, culture, history, and deities. The term Germanic similarly refers to such a related ethnic grouping. The Germanic peoples speak a Germanic language, descend from Germanic tribes, and worshipped basically the same Germanic gods. These people include the Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Germans, Swiss Germans, Austrians, Luxembergers, English, Lowland Scots, Dutch, Flemish, Farose, Icelanders, Frisians, Afrikaners, and these peoples' diaspora across the worl// I am not denying about the europeans not being europeans, as I don't believein the crap what's written in the media, that europeans are migrants and all, and blue eyes blonde hairs came from some african and bullcrap. It's clear, that europeans ruling classes were always present, with the same blue eyes blond hairs, a paritcular people, whom they worshipped during pre chrisitniasation did come, brought the languages as their dialects, when their rule got over, the european ruling classes again warred against each other. In 8th century, after arabs conquest, these ruling classes were turned into gods, so as to fight the foreigners. So all those mythlogies of thor and odin. Up until recent centuries, the evolution of languages were very fluid. The idea that some languages are 'Germanic' is sheer political propaganda, and has very little to do with linguistic dynamics as they really occurred in those times. Those who perpetuate the myth of a 'greater Germanism' are subconsciously demonstrating their allegiance to the Hitler archetype. 'Germany' is a construct of recent origin that should have been entirely eradicated 70 years ago. Often you will read how English is Germanic too. This is sheer brainwashing by the krauts. English has far more words in common with French, and France existed as a state for far longer than anyone else in all of Europe. Anyone who tries to label me as 'Germanic' is asking for a taste of Mjolnir. As for that sassenach with the racist flag, its really not worth trying to teach such mensch anything as they have no clue what understanding is, and will just mindlessly repeat that which has already long been disproven. old english is more related with dutch, i don't know how saxony people even attach it as their language. I have not found any similarity with english and german language, to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 15:30:28 GMT
//The Irish, Highland Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Manx, and Breton are Celtic because they have a related language, culture, history, and deities. The term Germanic similarly refers to such a related ethnic grouping. The Germanic peoples speak a Germanic language, descend from Germanic tribes, and worshipped basically the same Germanic gods. These people include the Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Germans, Swiss Germans, Austrians, Luxembergers, English, Lowland Scots, Dutch, Flemish, Farose, Icelanders, Frisians, Afrikaners, and these peoples' diaspora across the worl// I am not denying about the europeans not being europeans, as I don't believein the crap what's written in the media, that europeans are migrants and all, and blue eyes blonde hairs came from some african and bullcrap. It's clear, that europeans ruling classes were always present, with the same blue eyes blond hairs, a paritcular people, whom they worshipped during pre chrisitniasation did come, brought the languages as their dialects, when their rule got over, the european ruling classes again warred against each other. In 8th century, after arabs conquest, these ruling classes were turned into gods, so as to fight the foreigners. So all those mythlogies of thor and odin. Up until recent centuries, the evolution of languages were very fluid. The idea that some languages are 'Germanic' is sheer political propaganda, and has very little to do with linguistic dynamics as they really occurred in those times. Those who perpetuate the myth of a 'greater Germanism' are subconsciously demonstrating their allegiance to the Hitler archetype. 'Germany' is a construct of recent origin that should have been entirely eradicated 70 years ago.Often you will read how English is Germanic too. This is sheer brainwashing by the krauts. English has far more words in common with French, and France existed as a state for far longer than anyone else in all of Europe. Anyone who tries to label me as 'Germanic' is asking for a taste of Mjolnir. As for that sassenach with the racist flag, its really not worth trying to teach such mensch anything as they have no clue what understanding is, and will just mindlessly repeat that which has already long been disproven. Were not these people colonized by romans, who were siphoning their girls, before arminius fought a battle, with sarmatians? Though he was killed And for that matter, it were the huns, under attila and uldin/odin who fought romans, what were these germans doing anyways?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 15:41:23 GMT
You say that Norse paganism originated in the 8th century; that is an extraordinary claim that you need to back up with evidence so I challenge you to prove it. Thor didn't have blonde hair, he had red hair which was common among Norse peoples. Other gods like Freya did have blonde hair, black hair, grey hair etc which is common among Norsemen. There you go, which I had told you, that hitler was influenced by some culture of bavaria, where swastika marks were made, and this culture was brought by nomadic war like people , named huns, of whose leader was ULDIN, who became ODIN in iceland. www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/03/barbarian-huns-dna-germany-migration-antiquity-skull/These huns served under various german legions, to fight against the roman
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 24, 2020 10:11:25 GMT
//The Irish, Highland Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Manx, and Breton are Celtic because they have a related language, culture, history, and deities. The term Germanic similarly refers to such a related ethnic grouping. The Germanic peoples speak a Germanic language, descend from Germanic tribes, and worshipped basically the same Germanic gods. These people include the Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Germans, Swiss Germans, Austrians, Luxembergers, English, Lowland Scots, Dutch, Flemish, Farose, Icelanders, Frisians, Afrikaners, and these peoples' diaspora across the worl// I am not denying about the europeans not being europeans, as I don't believein the crap what's written in the media, that europeans are migrants and all, and blue eyes blonde hairs came from some african and bullcrap. It's clear, that europeans ruling classes were always present, with the same blue eyes blond hairs, a paritcular people, whom they worshipped during pre chrisitniasation did come, brought the languages as their dialects, when their rule got over, the european ruling classes again warred against each other. In 8th century, after arabs conquest, these ruling classes were turned into gods, so as to fight the foreigners. So all those mythlogies of thor and odin. Up until recent centuries, the evolution of languages were very fluid. The idea that some languages are 'Germanic' is sheer political propaganda, and has very little to do with linguistic dynamics as they really occurred in those times. Those who perpetuate the myth of a 'greater Germanism' are subconsciously demonstrating their allegiance to the Hitler archetype. 'Germany' is a construct of recent origin that should have been entirely eradicated 70 years ago. Often you will read how English is Germanic too. This is sheer brainwashing by the krauts. English has far more words in common with French, and France existed as a state for far longer than anyone else in all of Europe. Anyone who tries to label me as 'Germanic' is asking for a taste of Mjolnir. As for that sassenach with the racist flag, its really not worth trying to teach such mensch anything as they have no clue what understanding is, and will just mindlessly repeat that which has already long been disproven. Uh huh, i'll just go with the scholarly consensus on the subject over what some mystic on the internet states. Nobody here is talking about "greater Germanism" because once again your equating German with Germanic showing a complete lack of understanding of what these words mean. German is the English word for Deutsche which is what they call themselves in their own language. The Deutsche are just one of many different Germanic peoples. The fact that they're called German in English is a coincidence of the English language. Regarding the English language not being Germanic because it has more French words than Germanic ones. That's not how language classification works dude. A language is classified on more than just the words it has. There's also the grammatical structure of the language, phonology, and the family tree from which the language spawned among many many other factors which determine its linguistic family. The English language has its origin in the language of the Anglo Saxons and was modified greatly by the Normans but still retains the grammatical structure of the Germanic languages and still sprang from the Germanic family tree. Your also trying to deny the existence of the Germanic language family which is bizarre to say the least. But this whole conversation has been bizarre to me. You seem to deny reality and substitute your own motivated by some kind of weird anti Germanism. As for your insinuations that i'm some sort of racist or Hitler lover let me tell you this. Living through apartheid doesn't give you free reign to go around accusing others of racism when they disagree with you because you deny well substantiated facts. You whine about my flag but you're South African, you know absolutely nothing about the flag in my profile picture or the cultural context in which a man from the the American South displays it. Stay in your lane and stop speaking about things you know nothing about.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 14:49:56 GMT
Up until recent centuries, the evolution of languages were very fluid. The idea that some languages are 'Germanic' is sheer political propaganda, and has very little to do with linguistic dynamics as they really occurred in those times. Those who perpetuate the myth of a 'greater Germanism' are subconsciously demonstrating their allegiance to the Hitler archetype. 'Germany' is a construct of recent origin that should have been entirely eradicated 70 years ago. Often you will read how English is Germanic too. This is sheer brainwashing by the krauts. English has far more words in common with French, and France existed as a state for far longer than anyone else in all of Europe. Anyone who tries to label me as 'Germanic' is asking for a taste of Mjolnir. As for that sassenach with the racist flag, its really not worth trying to teach such mensch anything as they have no clue what understanding is, and will just mindlessly repeat that which has already long been disproven. Uh huh, i'll just go with the scholarly consensus on the subject over what some mystic on the internet states. Nobody here is talking about "greater Germanism" because once again your equating German with Germanic showing a complete lack of understanding of what these words mean. German is the English word for Deutsche which is what they call themselves in their own language. The Deutsche are just one of many different Germanic peoples. The fact that they're called German in English is a coincidence of the English language. Regarding the English language not being Germanic because it has more French words than Germanic ones. That's not how language classification works dude. A language is classified on more than just the words it has. There's also the grammatical structure of the language, phonology, and the family tree from which the language spawned among many many other factors which determine its linguistic family. The English language has its origin in the language of the Anglo Saxons and was modified greatly by the Normans but still retains the grammatical structure of the Germanic languages and still sprang from the Germanic family tree. Your also trying to deny the existence of the Germanic language family which is bizarre to say the least. But this whole conversation has been bizarre to me. You seem to deny reality and substitute your own motivated by some kind of weird anti Germanism. As for your insinuations that i'm some sort of racist or Hitler lover let me tell you this. Living through apartheid doesn't give you free reign to go around accusing others of racism when they disagree with you because you deny well substantiated facts. You whine about my flag but you're South African, you know absolutely nothing about the flag in my profile picture or the cultural context in which a man from the the American South displays it. Stay in your lane and stop speaking about things you know nothing about. Ok, then, how come, europeans also have these type of people? Actually, this would be the most german looking phenotype, this is Deacon Frost a fictitious person, but the creator choose to make him look like Odin. And as far as I know, Anglo-Saxons were hardcore worshippers of Odin. Infact, they only reverred Odin, no other gods, when they were Pagans. May be, pagan Anglo Saxons were referring to christian god!!!!!! The post is about why Norse became christian, and everyone have answered, that it was the power which made them to convert to christian. However, some people in scandinavia were opposing conversions too. But eventually, christianity took over Norse, and from there, came socialism, migrants from africa and middle east, and iceland now being controlled by jews, with LGBT ruling there.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 14:54:13 GMT
Deacon Frost is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. He appears in The Tomb of Dracula, and is an enemy of Blade. In the comics, Deacon Frost was depicted as a tall, white-haired, late middle-aged gentleman with red eyes, and wearing 1860s Germany period clothing. His doppelgänger sported an accent and attire that suggested a Southern preacher. May be, he is Odin!!!!! names that mean friend
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 4, 2020 23:40:22 GMT
Uh huh, i'll just go with the scholarly consensus on the subject over what some mystic on the internet states. Nobody here is talking about "greater Germanism" because once again your equating German with Germanic showing a complete lack of understanding of what these words mean. German is the English word for Deutsche which is what they call themselves in their own language. The Deutsche are just one of many different Germanic peoples. The fact that they're called German in English is a coincidence of the English language. Regarding the English language not being Germanic because it has more French words than Germanic ones. That's not how language classification works dude. A language is classified on more than just the words it has. There's also the grammatical structure of the language, phonology, and the family tree from which the language spawned among many many other factors which determine its linguistic family. The English language has its origin in the language of the Anglo Saxons and was modified greatly by the Normans but still retains the grammatical structure of the Germanic languages and still sprang from the Germanic family tree. Your also trying to deny the existence of the Germanic language family which is bizarre to say the least. But this whole conversation has been bizarre to me. You seem to deny reality and substitute your own motivated by some kind of weird anti Germanism. As for your insinuations that i'm some sort of racist or Hitler lover let me tell you this. Living through apartheid doesn't give you free reign to go around accusing others of racism when they disagree with you because you deny well substantiated facts. You whine about my flag but you're South African, you know absolutely nothing about the flag in my profile picture or the cultural context in which a man from the the American South displays it. Stay in your lane and stop speaking about things you know nothing about. Ok, then, how come, europeans also have these type of people? Actually, this would be the most german looking phenotype, this is Deacon Frost a fictitious person, but the creator choose to make him look like Odin. And as far as I know, Anglo-Saxons were hardcore worshippers of Odin. Infact, they only reverred Odin, no other gods, when they were Pagans. May be, pagan Anglo Saxons were referring to christian god!!!!!! The post is about why Norse became christian, and everyone have answered, that it was the power which made them to convert to christian. However, some people in scandinavia were opposing conversions too. But eventually, christianity took over Norse, and from there, came socialism, migrants from africa and middle east, and iceland now being controlled by jews, with LGBT ruling there. Europeans have what type of people? The Anglo Saxons worshipped many gods before becoming christian. The days of the week in English speaking countries like mine are named after some of them. Sunna's day is Sunday, Mani's day is Monday, Tiw's day is Tuesday, Woden's day is Wednesday, Thunor or Thor's day is Thursday, Figga's day is Friday, and for some reason the Roman god Saturn is Saturday. There were also gods like Seaxneat, Freo and other gods.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 10:24:04 GMT
Ok, then, how come, europeans also have these type of people? Actually, this would be the most german looking phenotype, this is Deacon Frost a fictitious person, but the creator choose to make him look like Odin. And as far as I know, Anglo-Saxons were hardcore worshippers of Odin. Infact, they only reverred Odin, no other gods, when they were Pagans. May be, pagan Anglo Saxons were referring to christian god!!!!!! The post is about why Norse became christian, and everyone have answered, that it was the power which made them to convert to christian. However, some people in scandinavia were opposing conversions too. But eventually, christianity took over Norse, and from there, came socialism, migrants from africa and middle east, and iceland now being controlled by jews, with LGBT ruling there. Europeans have what type of people? The Anglo Saxons worshipped many gods before becoming christian. The days of the week in English speaking countries like mine are named after some of them. Sunna's day is Sunday, Mani's day is Monday, Tiw's day is Tuesday, Woden's day is Wednesday, Thunor or Thor's day is Thursday, Figga's day is Friday, and for some reason the Roman god Saturn is Saturday. There were also gods like Seaxneat, Freo and other gods. The post is about norse becoming christian, an historical event. However, if germanaic war has to do something with this, then, yeah, it can be brought as part of discussion.
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