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Post by AmericanCharm on May 29, 2018 5:40:48 GMT
What do you guys think? I personally have mixed opinions. On one hand I think it’s a repulsive and repugnant lifestyle and I believe if legalized many men would be more likely to seek this kind of companionship. Especially if we went the direction Australia did with brothels. If this was the case though and the girls were being constantly tested like do over there, then perhaps it’s an idea that could work. At least it seems a better option than men seeking out street walkers, leading to the spreading of STDs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 15:23:05 GMT
They are not doing what they want considering whatever regulations they break would, in theory, be met with strict punishment. Those who commit adultery will be punished. Punish them all with strict punishment, not only those who commit adultery. That’s my vote and nothing is going to change my vote Then you will have a minority who will rise up to overthrow the government in the name of "freedom" and "choice". Any extreme results in an imbalance which inevitably leads to a change in ruling parties. There will always be a segment of men and women who do not follow an ethical lifestyle, these people should be seperated from society while being embraced at the same time. It breaks down to a problem of paradox.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 5, 2018 15:51:14 GMT
Punish them all with strict punishment, not only those who commit adultery. That’s my vote and nothing is going to change my vote Then you will have a minority who will rise up to overthrow the government in the name of "freedom" and "choice". Any extreme results in an imbalance which inevitably leads to a change in ruling parties. There will always be a segment of men and women who do not follow an ethical lifestyle, these people should be seperated from society while being embraced at the same time. It breaks down to a problem of paradox. facepalm I highly, highly doubt a minority of people will rise up and overthrow the government all because they will get strict punishment for paying for sex😂😂😂 Fantastic thinking there. If anything they’d be forced further underground and to the point of where it won’t be worth the trouble for many of them. I’m all for freedom of choice, but when someone’s choice can affect someone else negatively, as in cause another person harm, then there has to be a check somewhere; in the case of prostitution, that harm is the spreading of disease, more human trafficking, desensitization, more violence, and more hard drugs. Again I’m all for freedom of choice, but I understand that regardless of any law, people are going to do what they want. Laws are there as an inhibitor, like a legal gun owner is an inhibitor to a criminal with a gun; we shouldn’t enable the criminal with a gun to murder, rob, rape, etc by removing guns from law abiding citizens just like we shouldn’t enable any other immorality/action that has the potential to harm others.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 15:53:01 GMT
Then you will have a minority who will rise up to overthrow the government in the name of "freedom" and "choice". Any extreme results in an imbalance which inevitably leads to a change in ruling parties. There will always be a segment of men and women who do not follow an ethical lifestyle, these people should be seperated from society while being embraced at the same time. It breaks down to a problem of paradox. I highly, highly doubt a minority of people will rise up and overthrow the government all because they will get strict punishment for paying for sex😂😂😂 Fantastic thinking there. If anything they’d be forced further underground and to the point of where it won’t be worth the trouble for many of them. And the feminist movement has not already done this?
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 5, 2018 16:11:43 GMT
I highly, highly doubt a minority of people will rise up and overthrow the government all because they will get strict punishment for paying for sex😂😂😂 Fantastic thinking there. If anything they’d be forced further underground and to the point of where it won’t be worth the trouble for many of them. And the feminist movement has not already done this? I must being living under a rock; the feminist movement has overthrown the government? I’ve seen marching in the streets and protests by them, but never an overthrow of the government. I mean we have misogynist Trump in office, but the feminists are in control?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 16:25:13 GMT
And the feminist movement has not already done this? I must being living under a rock; the feminist movement has overthrown the government? I’ve seen marching in the streets and protests by them, but never an overthrow of the government. I mean we have misogynist Trump in office, but the feminists are in control? Yes in the form of political correctness as: 1) Language control (with language being the fundamental means in which a society is bound. Communication is a binding median which forms reality). 2) Legal status of Family 3) Points 1 and 2 in the education system and work environment. 4) Advertising and culture, hence the foundations of industries and businesses providing specific products. 5) Destruction of masculine identity, (hence feminine identity). 6) And the list can go on. Power is not limited strictly to a specific position (for example the status of the president), but rather is an extension of a cultural spirit. What we observe today is strictly an division of extremes with various grades of misogyny (hyper-masculinity observed in the trump example) and the obvious effeminate nature of standard man (physical/mental weakness based upon value of pleasure over sacrifice). Feminism is about dividing sexuality into further extremes rather than unifying them, considering it observes inherent characteristics and fractates them to further extremes (various "orientations", positions/places of men and women in society, etc.). The point I am arguing, and this may simplify the premise I am arguing, is that evil always exists and it should be directed in such a manner where it is controlled by allowing to exist in its own environment seperate from the boundaries which form an ethical and moral civilization.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 5, 2018 17:59:42 GMT
I must being living under a rock; the feminist movement has overthrown the government? I’ve seen marching in the streets and protests by them, but never an overthrow of the government. I mean we have misogynist Trump in office, but the feminists are in control? Yes in the form of political correctness as: 1) Language control (with language being the fundamental means in which a society is bound. Communication is a binding median which forms reality). 2) Legal status of Family 3) Points 1 and 2 in the education system and work environment. 4) Advertising and culture, hence the foundations of industries and businesses providing specific products. 5) Destruction of masculine identity, (hence feminine identity). 6) And the list can go on. Power is not limited strictly to a specific position (for example the status of the president), but rather is an extension of a cultural spirit. What we observe today is strictly an division of extremes with various grades of misogyny (hyper-masculinity observed in the trump example) and the obvious effeminate nature of standard man (physical/mental weakness based upon value of pleasure over sacrifice). Feminism is about dividing sexuality into further extremes rather than unifying them, considering it observes inherent characteristics and fractates them to further extremes (various "orientations", positions/places of men and women in society, etc.). The point I am arguing, and this may simplify the premise I am arguing, is that evil always exists and it should be directed in such a manner where it is controlled by allowing to exist in its own environment seperate from the boundaries which form an ethical and moral civilization. That isn’t an overthrow of the government. None of those things you listed haven’t been enacted as law. As you said, it’s a change in culture, but not so much so that the laws have changed. I think I made a comment in another thread in where I said I could see laws being changed to where if I offended someone that I would be fined, but this hasn’t happened and won’t happen for a long time if it even does happen. I agree but I think evil can be directed by laws that do not enable evil. I would argue that man is naturally evil and would tend to drift toward evil if there was no moral guide. So laws that enable evil will steer man toward evil.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 18:15:01 GMT
Yes in the form of political correctness as: 1) Language control (with language being the fundamental means in which a society is bound. Communication is a binding median which forms reality). 2) Legal status of Family 3) Points 1 and 2 in the education system and work environment. 4) Advertising and culture, hence the foundations of industries and businesses providing specific products. 5) Destruction of masculine identity, (hence feminine identity). 6) And the list can go on. Power is not limited strictly to a specific position (for example the status of the president), but rather is an extension of a cultural spirit. What we observe today is strictly an division of extremes with various grades of misogyny (hyper-masculinity observed in the trump example) and the obvious effeminate nature of standard man (physical/mental weakness based upon value of pleasure over sacrifice). Feminism is about dividing sexuality into further extremes rather than unifying them, considering it observes inherent characteristics and fractates them to further extremes (various "orientations", positions/places of men and women in society, etc.). The point I am arguing, and this may simplify the premise I am arguing, is that evil always exists and it should be directed in such a manner where it is controlled by allowing to exist in its own environment seperate from the boundaries which form an ethical and moral civilization. That isn’t an overthrow of the government. None of those things you listed haven’t been enacted as law. As you said, it’s a change in culture, but not so much so that the laws have changed. I think I made a comment in another thread in where I said I could see laws being changed to where if I offended someone that I would be fined, but this hasn’t happened and won’t happen for a long time if it even does happen. Political correctness, being enforced by corporate entities, places control over one's economic income in the respect that what they can and cannot say will effect their livelihood. This extends to the legal system of divorce placing emphasis on women over men, etc. We can see this "instability" in financial and familial structures causing the increase in polarization between political parties as everyone tries to come up with there own solution. Feminism is dependent upon a heavily subjective relativity as women relation through emotion more than logic, and this paradigm shift of emotion rather than reason reverberates through all political and financial structures. All governments become unstable prior to an over throw. The problem occurs in the respect that all feminist values, which goes back to prostitution as the right to do what one wants with their own body, are premised within an invert version of the human psyche. This mindset, which we see in various un-ethical types of behaviors always exist within a culture, but must be directed as any form annihilation will cause a form of repression where they eventually pop up. Feminism popped up because of the hyper patriarchial culture could not balance these elements.
I agree but I think evil can be directed by laws that do not enable evil. I would argue that man is naturally evil and would tend to drift toward evil if there was no moral guide. So laws that enable evil will steer man toward evil.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 6, 2018 0:52:32 GMT
That isn’t an overthrow of the government. None of those things you listed haven’t been enacted as law. As you said, it’s a change in culture, but not so much so that the laws have changed. I think I made a comment in another thread in where I said I could see laws being changed to where if I offended someone that I would be fined, but this hasn’t happened and won’t happen for a long time if it even does happen. Political correctness, being enforced by corporate entities, places control over one's economic income in the respect that what they can and cannot say will effect their livelihood. This extends to the legal system of divorce placing emphasis on women over men, etc. We can see this "instability" in financial and familial structures causing the increase in polarization between political parties as everyone tries to come up with there own solution. Feminism is dependent upon a heavily subjective relativity as women relation through emotion more than logic, and this paradigm shift of emotion rather than reason reverberates through all political and financial structures. All governments become unstable prior to an over throw. The problem occurs in the respect that all feminist values, which goes back to prostitution as the right to do what one wants with their own body, are premised within an invert version of the human psyche. This mindset, which we see in various un-ethical types of behaviors always exist within a culture, but must be directed as any form annihilation will cause a form of repression where they eventually pop up. Feminism popped up because of the hyper patriarchial culture could not balance these elements.
I agree but I think evil can be directed by laws that do not enable evil. I would argue that man is naturally evil and would tend to drift toward evil if there was no moral guide. So laws that enable evil will steer man toward evil. There isn't any law saying we must be politically correct. There isn't any law saying I cannot offend someone if I wish to(free speech). There isn't any law enacted that is forcing the feminist ideology on us all. There was never an over throw of the US government by feminists. Keep in mind, you said "you will have a minority who will rise up to overthrow the government in the name of "freedom" and "choice"." after I said "punish them all with strict punishment, not only those who commit adultery." Then I said " I highly, highly doubt a minority of people will rise up and overthrow the government all because they will get strict punishment for paying for sex", you then said "And the feminist movement has not already done this?" and I am now saying no, they haven't done this, they have not over thrown the US government.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 6, 2018 10:31:45 GMT
Can I overthrow it? XD
Someone needs to though...like seriously. Shrug
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 14:58:15 GMT
There isn't any law saying we must be politically correct. There isn't any law saying I cannot offend someone if I wish to(free speech). There isn't any law enacted that is forcing the feminist ideology on us all. There was never an over throw of the US government by feminists. Lack of political correctness would follow under "abuse", "harrassment", "racism", "sexism", etc. and would be treated as such at the legal level or the corporate level. Keep in mind that the nature of law extends not just through strict government entities but the corporate entities which provide the means of survival for many. Corporate and government law maintain a symbiotic relationship.Keep in mind, you said "you will have a minority who will rise up to overthrow the government in the name of "freedom" and "choice"." after I said "punish them all with strict punishment, not only those who commit adultery." Then I said " I highly, highly doubt a minority of people will rise up and overthrow the government all because they will get strict punishment for paying for sex", you then said "And the feminist movement has not already done this?" and I am now saying no, they haven't done this, they have not over thrown the US government. And the feminist communist infiltration has not done this? And overthrow does not happen through just strict aggressive means, especially in 1st world countries, but rather through soft politics, propaganda, etc. which is an extension of the those who chose to finance such efforts. The feminist propaganda in schools and the work environment is not the overthrowing of traditional values and cultures? Contrary to popular belief all power struggles take their roots in ideological force rather than physical action, now they may result in physical action, but even this is simply just the extension of a clash between ideas.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 6, 2018 17:30:46 GMT
There isn't any law saying we must be politically correct. There isn't any law saying I cannot offend someone if I wish to(free speech). There isn't any law enacted that is forcing the feminist ideology on us all. There was never an over throw of the US government by feminists. Lack of political correctness would follow under "abuse", "harrassment", "racism", "sexism", etc. and would be treated as such at the legal level or the corporate level. Keep in mind that the nature of law extends not just through strict government entities but the corporate entities which provide the means of survival for many. Corporate and government law maintain a symbiotic relationship.Keep in mind, you said "you will have a minority who will rise up to overthrow the government in the name of "freedom" and "choice"." after I said "punish them all with strict punishment, not only those who commit adultery." Then I said " I highly, highly doubt a minority of people will rise up and overthrow the government all because they will get strict punishment for paying for sex", you then said "And the feminist movement has not already done this?" and I am now saying no, they haven't done this, they have not over thrown the US government. And the feminist communist infiltration has not done this? And overthrow does not happen through just strict aggressive means, especially in 1st world countries, but rather through soft politics, propaganda, etc. which is an extension of the those who chose to finance such efforts. The feminist propaganda in schools and the work environment is not the overthrowing of traditional values and cultures? Contrary to popular belief all power struggles take their roots in ideological force rather than physical action, now they may result in physical action, but even this is simply just the extension of a clash between ideas.Facepalm an over throw of the US government has not happened. The government does not enforce traditional values and cultures, it can influence them through laws, but no laws have been enacted that enforce the feminist ideology.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 14:20:39 GMT
And the feminist communist infiltration has not done this? And overthrow does not happen through just strict aggressive means, especially in 1st world countries, but rather through soft politics, propaganda, etc. which is an extension of the those who chose to finance such efforts. The feminist propaganda in schools and the work environment is not the overthrowing of traditional values and cultures? Contrary to popular belief all power struggles take their roots in ideological force rather than physical action, now they may result in physical action, but even this is simply just the extension of a clash between ideas. an over throw of the US government has not happened. The government does not enforce traditional values and cultures, it can influence them through laws, but no laws have been enacted that enforce the feminist ideology. Whatever you say....the constitution is dead.
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