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Post by Διαμονδ on May 15, 2018 11:41:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 15:53:11 GMT
Cyrillic alphabet is made by Saint Clement, it was given name "Cyrillic" to honor his teacher Saint Cyril. Also there's no viable evidence the holy brothers were Greek or just Greekophone. Lastly, there is no such thing as "Byzantine". German made that out. The empire was Roman. Where did you get this weird info. I was taught that two Brothers invented it. And firstly they made the other language than it was presented then, so the prototype had name 'slavic', whereas ours - "cyrillic". "Slavic" was used by Helga, Svyatoslav and others before Vladimir and Yaroslav. There was no complete 'making-of-language-from-nothing', old slavianic names and notions had laid into modified language. Most of names came from slavs gods, and the last ones had relations to Aryan. Influence of Greek was mostly to church language; that's why our known language of the ancient times - church-slavianic. Common people didn't use it, until they were taught to read church books, which were 'popular' in that times. So, we cannot say about 'someone-had-created' the language, but only that the one has transformed it, and at the same time, that using of the language hasn't been shared: there were not many translated books and common people still were using their proto-languages (bilingual phenomena which is still present in Ukraine in using Russian and Ukrainian at the same time). I'm a South Slav after all: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_of_OhridTwo brothers made glagolithic script. |
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Post by hellenic on May 15, 2018 15:53:56 GMT
Cyrillic alphabet is made by Saint Clement, it was given name "Cyrillic" to honor his teacher Saint Cyril. Also there's no viable evidence the holy brothers were Greek or just Greekophone. Lastly, there is no such thing as "Byzantine". German made that out. The empire was Roman. Where did you get this weird info. I was taught that two Brothers invented it. And firstly they made the other language than it was presented then, so the prototype had name 'slavic', whereas ours - "cyrillic". "Slavic" was used by Helga, Svyatoslav and others before Vladimir and Yaroslav. There was no complete 'making-of-language-from-nothing', old slavianic names and notions had laid into modified language. Most of names came from slavs gods, and the last ones had relations to Aryan. Influence of Greek was mostly to church language; that's why our known language of the ancient times - church-slavianic. Common people didn't use it, until they were taught to read church books, which were 'popular' in that times. So, we cannot say about 'someone-had-created' the language, but only that the one has transformed it, and at the same time, that using of the language hasn't been shared: there were not many translated books and common people still were using their proto-languages (bilingual phenomena which is still present in Ukraine in using Russian and Ukrainian at the same time). No one said that someone created a LANGUAGE. I said that the cyrillic alphabet in which the slavic language is written, is based on Greek. Thats historically proven. |
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Post by hellenic on May 15, 2018 15:55:26 GMT
muhhh grikk mastereeeyce  )))))))) Im the opposite of that. I want to keep my past, present and future without trying to claim any northern cultures. Northerners are the ones trying to claim my culture as theirs. Its a constant attack i observe online and offline. |
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Post by hellenic on May 15, 2018 15:56:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:04:50 GMT
Where did you get this weird info. I was taught that two Brothers invented it. And firstly they made the other language than it was presented then, so the prototype had name 'slavic', whereas ours - "cyrillic". "Slavic" was used by Helga, Svyatoslav and others before Vladimir and Yaroslav. There was no complete 'making-of-language-from-nothing', old slavianic names and notions had laid into modified language. Most of names came from slavs gods, and the last ones had relations to Aryan. Influence of Greek was mostly to church language; that's why our known language of the ancient times - church-slavianic. Common people didn't use it, until they were taught to read church books, which were 'popular' in that times. So, we cannot say about 'someone-had-created' the language, but only that the one has transformed it, and at the same time, that using of the language hasn't been shared: there were not many translated books and common people still were using their proto-languages (bilingual phenomena which is still present in Ukraine in using Russian and Ukrainian at the same time). I'm a South Slav after all: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_of_OhridTwo brothers made glagolithic script. Sorry, I haven't heard about St. Clement before. Now I'll try to have read about him. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:07:59 GMT
Where did you get this weird info. I was taught that two Brothers invented it. And firstly they made the other language than it was presented then, so the prototype had name 'slavic', whereas ours - "cyrillic". "Slavic" was used by Helga, Svyatoslav and others before Vladimir and Yaroslav. There was no complete 'making-of-language-from-nothing', old slavianic names and notions had laid into modified language. Most of names came from slavs gods, and the last ones had relations to Aryan. Influence of Greek was mostly to church language; that's why our known language of the ancient times - church-slavianic. Common people didn't use it, until they were taught to read church books, which were 'popular' in that times. So, we cannot say about 'someone-had-created' the language, but only that the one has transformed it, and at the same time, that using of the language hasn't been shared: there were not many translated books and common people still were using their proto-languages (bilingual phenomena which is still present in Ukraine in using Russian and Ukrainian at the same time). No one said that someone created a LANGUAGE. I said that the cyrillic alphabet in which the slavic language is written, is based on Greek. Thats historically proven. Without doubts, it was. I was going to say, that there were no using of just one language; there were bilingua. Cyrillic was used at the church mostly. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 15, 2018 16:08:38 GMT
So many meaningless explanations. The only thing that matters is that the Cyrrilic alphabet was based on the Greek. Also, it was named as Byzantium because of the ancient Greek city built by Byzantas there. Germans had nothing to do with it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ByzantiumCyrrilic script is derived from the Greek uncial script letters en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_script#NameKyrrilos and Methodios were born in Thessaloniki, a very ancient Greek city. Their names are Greek. They spoke Greek. They were Greek. Everything else is slavopropaganda. You're somewhat Slav yourself. You got typical South Slavic Y DNA haplogroup, so you shouldn't hate on Slavs. There is a good chance Cyril and Methodius could be both Slavs. Sclavenians (South Slavs) 7th century AD:  Concerning term "Byzantine" check who is Hieronymus Wolf. Probably I2 is the heritage of Yugoslavic in Greece! |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:10:32 GMT
muhhh grikk mastereeeyce )))))))) Im the opposite of that. I want to keep my past, present and future without trying to claim any northern cultures. Northerners are the ones trying to claim my culture as theirs. Its a constant attack i observe online and offline. I beg you not to generalize, because there are the ones who don't. |
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Post by hellenic on May 15, 2018 16:12:50 GMT
Im the opposite of that. I want to keep my past, present and future without trying to claim any northern cultures. Northerners are the ones trying to claim my culture as theirs. Its a constant attack i observe online and offline. I beg you not to generalize, because there are the ones who don't. Most arent. Only a fringe part does that. Most northerners are good people. |
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Post by joustos on May 15, 2018 16:24:01 GMT
What are you talking about? 90% of those names are Greek! Thessalonike means the victory of thessalians and also it was the name of the sister of Alexander who became a mermaid. Thrace is from the greek word ΘΡΗΚΕΙΑ and gave the name to the greek world for religion ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ because Orpheus was from Thrace and he is responsible for bringing the religion in Greece(according to mythology) Pella is the capital of Macedonia and it is a Greek name. Chalkidike is a Greek name and the root is CHALKOS or bronze Larissa is a Greek name Ioannina is a Greek name from the name Ioannis Magnesia is a Greek name from the word ΜΑΓΝΗΤΗΣ And on and on.... Toponyms are the most important part of a language, to establish WHO were the earliest inhabitants of a place. I have done extensive work on my native language in Southern Italy [Magna Graecia: Megale Hellas or Akheia], which is largely like Italian (from Latin). I found a large bunch of words which are not the roots of either Latin or Italian; they are the residues of the Greek spoken in the original town. An etymological study of toponyms confirmed my view of the origin of my town. (The whole story will be told in a book I am working on: Indo-European and Its Speakers. It overrides the works of Pokorny and of Semerano.) From the study of European and Middle eastern words, I conclude that Indo-European is Greek or,.... Proto-Greek. I would appreciate your continuing the investigation of Slavic toponyms and your use of the Greek alphabet to write out the Greek words -- the rest, all in English. Welcome aboard. |
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Post by hellenic on May 15, 2018 16:35:47 GMT
What are you talking about? 90% of those names are Greek! Thessalonike means the victory of thessalians and also it was the name of the sister of Alexander who became a mermaid. Thrace is from the greek word ΘΡΗΚΕΙΑ and gave the name to the greek world for religion ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ because Orpheus was from Thrace and he is responsible for bringing the religion in Greece(according to mythology) Pella is the capital of Macedonia and it is a Greek name. Chalkidike is a Greek name and the root is CHALKOS or bronze Larissa is a Greek name Ioannina is a Greek name from the name Ioannis Magnesia is a Greek name from the word ΜΑΓΝΗΤΗΣ And on and on.... Toponyms are the most important part of a language, to establish WHO were the earliest inhabitants of a place. I have done extensive work on my native language in Southern Italy [Magna Graecia: Megale Hellas or Akheia], which is largely like Italian (from Latin). I found a large bunch of words which are not the roots of either Latin or Italian; they are the residues of the Greek spoken in the original town. An etymological study of toponyms confirmed my view of the origin of my town. (The whole story will be told in a book I am working on: Indo-European and Its Speakers. It overrides the works of Pokorny and of Semerano.) From the study of European and Middle eastern words, I conclude that Indo-European is Greek or,.... Proto-Greek. I would appreciate your continuing the investigation of Slavic toponyms and your use of the Greek alphabet to write out the Greek words -- the rest, all in English. Welcome aboard. Nice to meet you, dude. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 17:01:53 GMT
You're somewhat Slav yourself. You got typical South Slavic Y DNA haplogroup, so you shouldn't hate on Slavs. There is a good chance Cyril and Methodius could be both Slavs. Sclavenians (South Slavs) 7th century AD: Concerning term "Byzantine" check who is Hieronymus Wolf. Probably I2 is the heritage of Yugoslavic in Greece! Those people were the people originally known as Slavs. The other groups, at the time, weren't even called Slavs, but Wends or Anteans, which coincides with modern West and East Slavs  |
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Post by khaos on May 15, 2018 17:16:07 GMT
muhhh grikk mastereeeyce )))))))) Im the opposite of that. I want to keep my past, present and future without trying to claim any northern cultures. Northerners are the ones trying to claim my culture as theirs. Its a constant attack i observe online and offline. Don't flatter yourself, no one here cares about you  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 17:19:47 GMT
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Post by hellenic on May 15, 2018 17:45:18 GMT
Its a common thing online. Mostly be irrelevant nobodies who hate themselves and pretend being strong online. |
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