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Post by jonbain on Aug 19, 2021 21:46:46 GMT
Well this looks like a Guy Fawkes party waiting for a spark
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Post by karl on Aug 19, 2021 22:25:06 GMT
2001: The Taliban rules Afghanistan 2001 - 2021: The US spends 1000.000.000.000 dollars to control Afghanistan. 2021: The Taliban rules Afghanistan
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 20, 2021 4:18:45 GMT
2001: The Taliban rules Afghanistan 2001 - 2021: The US spends 1000.000.000.000 dollars to control Afghanistan. 2021: The Taliban rules Afghanistan It's called "cutting & delivery of the budget".
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 20, 2021 6:18:02 GMT
The whole reason we went into the war was so that terrorists wouldn't have a safe haven in Taliban-controlled Afganistan from which to plan and execute their operations. Mission failed. This is the problem with my country; it starts wars rightly or wrongly, and then it doesn't have the spine to finish them and innocent and people suffer because of that fact. When we pull out, whatever vile enemy we're fighting swoops in like vultures and starts killing their enemies (usually innocent people) in their own homeland in mass. It's been this way since the 1960s.
I've often talked about how my country doesn't have one culture but a variety of regional cultures that are more different from one another in political, moral, religious, economic, military, and any other kind of values that you can think of than any two European countries, and this situation serves as a great example of these deep cultural divisions. The President that started this war was a good ole boy from West Texas, the Greater Appalachian South and his other home away from home was Houston in East Texas, the Deep South. The current President that has blundered was born in Puritan Yankee settled Scranton Pennsylvania and spent his later childhood in Midland Quaker settled New Castle County in Delaware. Two idiots, two different approaches to war.
The South and the Mountain West are the parts of the country that have the stomach for war, the North and the West Coast are a pack of gutless pansies.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 20, 2021 7:42:00 GMT
The whole reason we went into the war was so that terrorists wouldn't have a safe haven in Taliban-controlled Afganistan from which to plan and execute their operations. Mission failed. This is the problem with my country; it starts wars rightly or wrongly, and then it doesn't have the spine to finish them and innocent and people suffer because of that fact. When we pull out, whatever vile enemy we're fighting swoops in like vultures and starts killing their enemies (usually innocent people) in their own homeland in mass. It's been this way since the 1960s. I've often talked about how my country doesn't have one culture but a variety of regional cultures that are more different from one another in political, moral, religious, economic, military, and any other kind of values that you can think of than any two European countries, and this situation serves as a great example of these deep cultural divisions. The President that started this war was a good ole boy from West Texas, the Greater Appalachian South and his other home away from home was Houston in East Texas, the Deep South. The current President that has blundered was born in Puritan Yankee settled Scranton Pennsylvania and spent his later childhood in Midland Quaker settled New Castle County in Delaware. Two idiots, two different approaches to war. The South and the Mountain West are the parts of the country that have the stomach for war, the North and the West Coast are a pack of gutless Have you thought about the other reasons of these wars? Do you think these wars were necessary? If they've all failed, what has changed since that? I think if they haven't got any money from these wars, they probably just have arranged some shadow cash schemes, or they have organised some secret programs, like developing of the bio-weapons or something else.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 20, 2021 9:28:09 GMT
The whole reason we went into the war was so that terrorists wouldn't have a safe haven in Taliban-controlled Afganistan from which to plan and execute their operations. Mission failed. This is the problem with my country; it starts wars rightly or wrongly, and then it doesn't have the spine to finish them and innocent and people suffer because of that fact. When we pull out, whatever vile enemy we're fighting swoops in like vultures and starts killing their enemies (usually innocent people) in their own homeland in mass. It's been this way since the 1960s. I've often talked about how my country doesn't have one culture but a variety of regional cultures that are more different from one another in political, moral, religious, economic, military, and any other kind of values that you can think of than any two European countries, and this situation serves as a great example of these deep cultural divisions. The President that started this war was a good ole boy from West Texas, the Greater Appalachian South and his other home away from home was Houston in East Texas, the Deep South. The current President that has blundered was born in Puritan Yankee settled Scranton Pennsylvania and spent his later childhood in Midland Quaker settled New Castle County in Delaware. Two idiots, two different approaches to war. The South and the Mountain West are the parts of the country that have the stomach for war, the North and the West Coast are a pack of gutless Have you thought about the other reasons of these wars? Do you think these wars were necessary? If they've all failed, what has changed since that?
I think if they haven't got any money from these wars, they probably just have arranged some shadow cash schemes, or they have organised some secret programs, like developing of the bio-weapons or something else.I think it would be very easy for me to sit here from my home 20 years later and give my opinion on whether these wars were necessary or not. 911 had just happened and we were out for terrorist blood. You can say that there were valid reasons for entering these wars. Afghanistan was thought to be hiding Osama Bin Laden and as stated earlier it was a safe haven for many terrorist groups to stage their murderous operations under the protection of a foreign government. At the same time Saddam Hussein was a mad dog who didn't play by the rules of decency between nations following the Cold War. He gassed the Kurds with mustard gas which are weapons of mass destruction and he invaded Kuwait and we had to beat him back from that country. He was unstable and a major threat to many people so I don't know if the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were justified to be honest. What we shouldn't have tried to do was try and spread Western style liberal democracies to people unsuited for it. We should have put our own American friendly strongman in charge like we did with Pinochet in Chile and with many other countries friendly with the Soviets in the Cold War. These countries are volatile places with people who culturally haven't advanced past the middle ages and the only thing that can keep savages like ISIS and the Taliban from dominating their country is a strongman who's willing to keep them in line. That was what people like Saddam Hussein and Mua'mmar Gadhafi were doing in their respective countries before we ousted them. It's ugly business but it has to be done. Global politics must be approached realistically and not sentimentally thinking that Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya are civilizationally and culturally equivalent to Germany and Japan and we can just make them live like civilized Westernized people instead of like the tribal, primitive, religious fanatics that they actually are. Excuse me for being so frank but its true.
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Post by jonbain on Aug 20, 2021 9:55:14 GMT
Clovis MerovingianCompare to China. From 1930-1950 at least, it was the most impoverished part of the world, measured as infant mortality. Mao imposed 1 child per family plan which has worked wonders in many ways. Of course it is now a monster on the loose with slave-labor and imperial notions of its own. I am not saying its an ideal state. But many of the basic problems were resolved by appreciating that they were caused by over-population. The hoards of Afghanis undeterred by gun-fire clinging to the under-carriage of the aircraft just shows how infantile the culture is. And these problems exist all over the non-Christian world. But south America is not much better, so it does run deeper than Christianity on its own. Catholic states have fared less-well. And Japan is something of an exceptional Asian case. We have many similar issues in South Africa, though not as bad, largely due to the African's ability to learn languages. Most know a half dozen languages, and it helps considerably. But still, the underlying problem here is just the cultural desire for large families, which ends in poverty. Which is the surest way to perpetuate medieval feuding. This was exactly the problem with Germany and Japan in ww2, and even Britain in ww1. And France at the time of the French Revolution was no different. Ireland had similar issues in the 1800's, but that was mitigated by populations migrating to the americas, which also alleviated much of such issues in europe, up until the 20th century. The more we solve the case, the more it seems we just rearrange the mystery. (Coyote Waits) So are we destined to fight theses battles until we can migrate to the stars? Which is likely sooner? Stopping over-population, or building star-ships? Or is it simply a matter of doing both? After all 500 years ago it was seen as impossible to travel the oceans. But if we look back 1000 years the vikings almost made it. It was actually alot easier than people imagined.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 20, 2021 14:28:42 GMT
I think it would be very easy for me to sit here from my home 20 years later and give my opinion on whether these wars were necessary or not. 911 had just happened and we were out for terrorist blood. You can say that there were valid reasons for entering these wars. Afghanistan was thought to be hiding Osama Bin Laden and as stated earlier it was a safe haven for many terrorist groups to stage their murderous operations under the protection of a foreign government. At the same time Saddam Hussein was a mad dog who didn't play by the rules of decency between nations following the Cold War. He gassed the Kurds with mustard gas which are weapons of mass destruction and he invaded Kuwait and we had to beat him back from that country. He was unstable and a major threat to many people so I don't know if the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were justified to be honest. What we shouldn't have tried to do was try and spread Western style liberal democracies to people unsuited for it. We should have put our own American friendly strongman in charge like we did with Pinochet in Chile and with many other countries friendly with the Soviets in the Cold War. These countries are volatile places with people who culturally haven't advanced past the middle ages and the only thing that can keep savages like ISIS and the Taliban from dominating their country is a strongman who's willing to keep them in line. That was what people like Saddam Hussein and Mua'mmar Gadhafi were doing in their respective countries before we ousted them. It's ugly business but it has to be done. Global politics must be approached realistically and not sentimentally thinking that Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya are civilizationally and culturally equivalent to Germany and Japan and we can just make them live like civilized Westernized people instead of like the tribal, primitive, religious fanatics that they actually are. Excuse me for being so frank but its true. I don't know about the other countries (only guessing about them), but these bolded words are rather make me smiling. There is no such a delivery. This is impossible to deliever ideas, except for propaganda. And there are different ways of doing it, including non-intentional ones. So, how can we say whether US delievers something? It can support some leaders, etc, but by doing it you never know what to achieve. And it seems that there is no liberal democracy concept, it's just the way how many Western people govern or rule; a Western culture. So, I think that a secret of popularity of this Western concept is cimple and clear: people are leaning to rationality, because it's natural. The Western world citizens do mostly things rationally. Unfortunately, the classic times have gone as well as some merely sane epoch 1890-1958. Brainless ones had decided to destroy the classics, and now we're living not in those more sane epoch.
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 20, 2021 17:34:37 GMT
The Taliban have restored my faith in Muslims. Muslims in the West clearly ignore God and submit to Satan. This can be seen in their blind obedience to the satanic western covid dictates. My thinking was that regardless of how good Islam is as a religion, if Muslims consistently refuse to support goodness then I cannot support Muslims. But now the Taliban have shown that at least some Muslims are willing to fight for goodness. The Taliban have successfully expelled the forces of the satanic global elite from their country. And the Taliban seem to reject covid tyranny. The Taliban do not wear masks, do not socially distance, do not implement lockdowns, do not suppress free speech on health issues, and seem likely to reject the covid vaccines. Afghanistan is now one of the only countries in the world not under satanic control.
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Post by jonbain on Aug 20, 2021 19:14:17 GMT
The Taliban have restored my faith in Muslims. Muslims in the West clearly ignore God and submit to Satan. This can be seen in their blind obedience to the satanic western covid dictates. My thinking was that regardless of how good Islam is as a religion, if Muslims consistently refuse to support goodness then I cannot support Muslims. But now the Taliban have shown that at least some Muslims are willing to fight for goodness. The Taliban have successfully expelled the forces of the satanic global elite from their country. And the Taliban seem to reject covid tyranny. The Taliban do not wear masks, do not socially distance, do not implement lockdowns, do not suppress free speech on health issues, and seem likely to reject the covid vaccines. Afghanistan is now one of the only countries in the world not under satanic control.
The late president of Tanzania disproved the PCR test in its first inception. Taliban are just learning from this wise saint of a man, a year and a half later.
Social distancing is one thing I have always thought is a good idea, though.
The rest of the croney-virus cult of quackery is a consequence of
over-population causing poor nutrition. The prime villain is China which has fished the oceans into a wasteland. They lie about their population considerably as they consume half the world's fish. They must have about 3 billion at least considering that the size of their fishing fleet
is actually 700% what they say it is.
Thats what the REAL deal about Wuhan was: proof the oceans are decimated. Thats why they need to steal the entire South China Sea.
The rest is propaganda from the CCP.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 22, 2021 4:29:51 GMT
Clovis Merovingian Compare to China. From 1930-1950 at least, it was the most impoverished part of the world, measured as infant mortality. Mao imposed 1 child per family plan which has worked wonders in many ways. Of course it is now a monster on the loose with slave-labor and imperial notions of its own. I am not saying its an ideal state. But many of the basic problems were resolved by appreciating that they were caused by over-population. The hoards of Afghanis undeterred by gun-fire clinging to the under-carriage of the aircraft just shows how infantile the culture is. And these problems exist all over the non-Christian world. But south America is not much better, so it does run deeper than Christianity on its own. Catholic states have fared less-well. And Japan is something of an exceptional Asian case. We have many similar issues in South Africa, though not as bad, largely due to the African's ability to learn languages. Most know a half dozen languages, and it helps considerably. But still, the underlying problem here is just the cultural desire for large families, which ends in poverty. Which is the surest way to perpetuate medieval feuding. This was exactly the problem with Germany and Japan in ww2, and even Britain in ww1. And France at the time of the French Revolution was no different. Ireland had similar issues in the 1800's, but that was mitigated by populations migrating to the americas, which also alleviated much of such issues in europe, up until the 20th century. The more we solve the case, the more it seems we just rearrange the mystery. (Coyote Waits) So are we destined to fight theses battles until we can migrate to the stars? Which is likely sooner? Stopping over-population, or building star-ships? Or is it simply a matter of doing both? After all 500 years ago it was seen as impossible to travel the oceans. But if we look back 1000 years the vikings almost made it. It was actually alot easier than people imagined. I will respond to this later but you mentioned the poverty of Latin America despite its Christianity. I think you'll find this post I made about the settlement history of the Americas and it's impact on this situation interesting. arktos.boards.net/thread/7023/knights-bourgeoisie-settling-america
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Post by Sonny on Sept 10, 2021 0:32:43 GMT
Islam is definitely the culprit here. Also, South America is nothing like Afghanistan. The Cartels and the gangsters aren't exactly practicing Christians. Mohammed the savage pedo and his primitive teachings are why his modern followers are are still stone age era muslims. He is why we have Afghanistan. Islam is why almost every muslim is a savage. Islam is eternal stagnation. Also.. pakistan is entirely to blame for taliban's return. www.nytimes.com/2021/08/26/world/asia/afghanistan-pakistan-taliban.html
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 10, 2021 6:50:07 GMT
Islam is definitely the culprit here. Also, South America is nothing like Afghanistan. The Cartels and the gangsters aren't exactly practicing Christians. Mohammed the savage pedo and his primitive teachings are why his modern followers are are still stone age era muslims. He is why we have Afghanistan. Islam is why almost every muslim is a savage. Islam is eternal stagnation. Also.. pakistan is entirely to blame for taliban's return. www.nytimes.com/2021/08/26/world/asia/afghanistan-pakistan-taliban.htmlMost of the Cartels in Mexico worship the Aztec death Saint Santa Muerte. It's a religion that's as evil and backwards as Islam. Lots of human sacrifice involved.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Sept 10, 2021 18:50:08 GMT
2001: The Taliban rules Afghanistan 2001 - 2021: The US spends 1000.000.000.000 dollars to control Afghanistan. 2021: The Taliban rules Afghanistan It's called "cutting & delivery of the budget". Darth Evader It should have been called "Operation What So Proudly We Halliburton."
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Post by jonbain on Sept 10, 2021 20:25:31 GMT
Islam is definitely the culprit here. Also, South America is nothing like Afghanistan. The Cartels and the gangsters aren't exactly practicing Christians. Mohammed the savage pedo and his primitive teachings are why his modern followers are are still stone age era muslims. He is why we have Afghanistan. Islam is why almost every muslim is a savage. Islam is eternal stagnation. Also.. pakistan is entirely to blame for taliban's return. www.nytimes.com/2021/08/26/world/asia/afghanistan-pakistan-taliban.html
From what I have read, I seem to recall that Mohamed married a woman who was actually older than him.
Still, I reckon I'd be more comfortable under the Taliban than the CCP. China has forced even men to wear the hijab.
And it may be a tactical move to kick the football near china's goal-line, and see if they take the bait.
After all, Afghanistan and Islam are not holding the entire world under their thumb via the tyranny of pseudo-science and the economics of slave-labor. There is always a darker corner of the world.
The Uyghur of Xinjiang would make the ideal target for all that fancy weaponry lying about Kabul.
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