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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 6, 2017 22:38:22 GMT
Trump officially recognized Jerusalem as the capital of IsraelThe President of the United States Donald trump announced the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital. "I decided that now is the time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel," said the U.S leader, speaking in a special address.
So Trump has fulfilled a campaign promise. According to him, more than 20 years, every President refused to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem or to recognize it as the capital of Israel. They, according to the US President, believed that this step would be detrimental to the peace process.
Trump said that since then Israel and Palestine no closer to peace. "It would be foolish to assume that following a similar formula to achieve the best results," he added.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu thanked Trump for "a brave and fair decision." The Prime Minister called the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of the "important step to peace" and vowed to maintain the status quo of the Holy places in the city.
The decision Trump prior to his announcement condemned in the Palestinian national authority, and in other States. The President of the Palestinian national authority Mahmoud Abbas during a telephone conversation warned the US President about the serious consequences of the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel for peace, security and stability in the region and the world.
Palestinian Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Basem al-Agha told RIA Novosti that Abbas intends to gather to discuss issues of Jerusalem, the leaders of the first Arab countries and then other Muslim countries.
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that the Republic, after the decision of Washington to break with Israel diplomatic relations.
The head of EU diplomacy Federica Mogherini urged the international community restrained response to the U.S. decision.
Israel considers Jerusalem its "United and indivisible" capital, including its Eastern areas and the historic centre, captured from Jordan in the six day war.
The world does not recognize the annexation and considers the status of the city one of the biggest problems of the middle East conflict which should be solved on the basis of an agreement with the Palestinians claiming the Eastern part of Jerusalem. Because of this, all foreign embassies are located in tel Aviv.
The U.S. Congress in 1995 passed a law on the transfer of the Embassy in Israel from tel Aviv to Jerusalem, but the execution of the decision was delayed all the time.
ria.ru/world/20171206/15.html
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Post by Manul on Dec 7, 2017 10:14:16 GMT
Don't quite understand Donald's move, looks like he really dislikes muslims. Donald only don't start WWIII, you was elected to prevent it
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 7, 2017 10:26:35 GMT
He is under the strong Jewish lobby ...
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Post by AmericanCharm on Dec 7, 2017 10:58:41 GMT
I dare say this is an attempt to create a conflict in which an excuse is made to wipe out the Muslim territory. Goodbye Palestine?
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 7, 2017 11:42:57 GMT
I dare say this is an attempt to create a conflict in which an excuse is made to wipe out the Muslim territory. Goodbye Palestine? Let's see what happens in the future! In any case, to can be the basis for a new conflict if Israel would agree to such a scenario of course.
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Post by Heimdallr on Dec 7, 2017 15:20:21 GMT
Don't quite understand Donald's move, looks like he really dislikes muslims. He is under the strong Jewish lobby ... I dare say this is an attempt to create a conflict in which an excuse is made to wipe out the Muslim territory. Goodbye Palestine? Trump (and Netanyahu) hopes against all hope that this latest brick laid on the road to 'The Greater Israel', and the conflict it evokes, can be managed, all-the-while the evidence points to a wider conflict caused by it. ‘Declaration of war’: Trump’s Jerusalem decision lights Middle East powder kegTrump risks an even wider conflict with the greatest of nonchalance, enhancing his reelection chances with the jewish lobby and its media machine. I sincerely hope he gets a black eye over this one. If Islam lets THIS slide, they are DOOMED, and they know it! What Israel wants is " the land that God promised to Israel"
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Post by Manul on Dec 7, 2017 18:01:49 GMT
Don't quite understand Donald's move, looks like he really dislikes muslims. Trump (and Netanyahu) hopes against all hope that this latest brick laid on the road to 'The Greater Israel', and the conflict it evokes, can be managed, all-the-while the evidence points to a wider conflict caused by it. ‘Declaration of war’: Trump’s Jerusalem decision lights Middle East powder kegTrump risks an even wider conflict with the greatest of nonchalance, enhancing his reelection chances with the jewish lobby and its media machine. I sincerely hope he gets a black eye over this one. If Islam lets THIS slide, they are DOOMED, and they know it! What Israel wants is " the land that God promised to Israel" It can be some super cunning 3D chess move or something, since we only know the tip of the iceberg, otherwise Trump is Israel servant. Spoiled to ruins relations of America with Arab-Muslim world hardly in interest of USA. Btw even Kim is serving Israel today
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Post by Heimdallr on Dec 7, 2017 18:41:23 GMT
Trump (and Netanyahu) hopes against all hope that this latest brick laid on the road to 'The Greater Israel', and the conflict it evokes, can be managed, all-the-while the evidence points to a wider conflict caused by it. Trump risks an even wider conflict with the greatest of nonchalance, enhancing his reelection chances with the jewish lobby and its media machine. I sincerely hope he gets a black eye over this one. If Islam lets THIS slide, they are DOOMED, and they know it! ... What Israel wants is " the land that God promised to Israel" It can be some super cunning 3D chess move or something, since we only know the tip of the iceberg, otherwise Trump is Israel servant. Spoiled to ruins relations of America with Arab-Muslim world hardly in interest of USA. We know MUCH more than the tip of the iceberg by now. Trump, and the entire US government is an Israel servant. From the above video: (begins at 2m:38s mark)- "The actual policy, just like the Project for a New America Century laid-out very clearly that a A new 'Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance. You could never tell the American people or the world for that matter, 'We're going to fight wars of aggression where we're going to have to have to invade and occupy, we're going to have to spend hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars to achieve the goal of full spectrum dominance, which is to control, absolute control, over land, air, and sea, space and cyberspace. The American people never would have bought it, you can't tell them that, you have to tell them a bunch of lies".
"...a 'new Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance." he said.He's alluding to the attack on the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001 (aka 9-11), of course, the 'kick-off' of The Greater Israel Project. Kay Griggs has had some interesting things to say about the inner-workings of the Zionist occupied government... Here is but one tasty morsel:
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Post by Heimdallr on Dec 7, 2017 18:59:58 GMT
... Btw even Kim is serving Israel today... Nope... It was North Korea that was assisting Syria in building the nuclear reactor that Israel bombed in April of 2004 (known as Operation Orchard), remember? ... So, by default, it is rightfully assumed that North Korea is hostile to Israel and the jews, and by default, "US interests" worldwide.
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Post by Manul on Dec 7, 2017 19:04:00 GMT
... Btw even Kim is serving Israel today... Nope... It was North Korea that was assisting Syria in building the nuclear reactor that Israel bombed in April of 2004 (known as Operation Orchard), remember? ... So, by default, it is rightfully assumed that North Korea is hostile to Israel and the jews, and by default, "US interests" worldwide. I mean Kim advertises Israeli burgers
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Post by Manul on Dec 7, 2017 19:51:06 GMT
Trump (and Netanyahu) hopes against all hope that this latest brick laid on the road to 'The Greater Israel', and the conflict it evokes, can be managed, all-the-while the evidence points to a wider conflict caused by it. Trump risks an even wider conflict with the greatest of nonchalance, enhancing his reelection chances with the jewish lobby and its media machine. I sincerely hope he gets a black eye over this one. If Islam lets THIS slide, they are DOOMED, and they know it! ... What Israel wants is " the land that God promised to Israel" We know MUCH more than the tip of the iceberg by now. Trump, and the entire US government is an Israel servant. From the above video: (begins at 2m:38s mark)- "The actual policy, just like the Project for a New America Century laid-out very clearly that a A new 'Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance. You could never tell the American people or the world for that matter, 'We're going to fight wars of aggression where we're going to have to have to invade and occupy, we're going to have to spend hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars to achieve the goal of full spectrum dominance, which is to control, absolute control, over land, air, and sea, space and cyberspace. The American people never would have bought it, you can't tell them that, you have to tell them a bunch of lies".
"...a 'new Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance." he said.He's alluding to the attack on the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001 (aka 9-11), of course, the 'kick-off' of The Greater Israel Project. Kay Griggs has had some interesting things to say about the inner-workings of the Zionist occupied government... Here is but one tasty morsel: I know that in the west widely spread opinion that "Jews are controlling USA", "Jews are behind multiculturalism" & "Jews are deep state" etc... From Russia it look slightly different, our local Jews (yes, they also love to work in media) often don't share the ideas/worldvision of American liberal Jews. Maybe we should talk more about american elites in general, the so-called "establishment" who frequently stand not for American national interest, but for some contrived ideological attitudes. Trump in this concrete case can act his own way, since he promised to recognize of Jerusalem as Israel's capital during election campaign.
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Post by Heimdallr on Dec 7, 2017 20:49:28 GMT
We know MUCH more than the tip of the iceberg by now. Trump, and the entire US government is an Israel servant. From the above video: (begins at 2m:38s mark)- "The actual policy, just like the Project for a New America Century laid-out very clearly that a A new 'Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance. You could never tell the American people or the world for that matter, 'We're going to fight wars of aggression where we're going to have to have to invade and occupy, we're going to have to spend hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars to achieve the goal of full spectrum dominance, which is to control, absolute control, over land, air, and sea, space and cyberspace. The American people never would have bought it, you can't tell them that, you have to tell them a bunch of lies".
"...a 'new Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance." he said.He's alluding to the attack on the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001 (aka 9-11), of course, the 'kick-off' of The Greater Israel Project. I know that in the west widely spread opinion that "Jews are controlling USA", "Jews are behind multiculturalism" & "Jews are deep state" etc... From Russia it look slightly different, our local Jews (yes, they also love to work in media) often don't share the ideas/worldvision of American liberal Jews. Maybe we should talk more about american elites in general, the so-called "establishment" who frequently stand not for American national interest, but for some contrived ideological attitudes. Trump in this concrete case can act his own way, since he promised to recognize of Jerusalem as Israel's capital during election campaign. US foreign policy, especially as it relates to the Middle East is built around ISRAEL'S best interests, not the USA's... That FACT was addressed in a "controversial" 2006 book, if you care to investigate it. Yeah, Israel is a BIG US ' ally' alright... The US taxpayer digs deep for at least $6 BILLION in 'foreign aid' to the Jewish state each and every year ($3.8 billion officially), and in return we get to send our sons and daughters to their deaths fighting Israel's wars for them. Their 'lobby' has hijacked US foreign policy, mainly via campaign finance contributions recycled from that very same USA 'foreign aid', and NONE of the people's elected representatives dare vote against AIPAC scripted legislation furthering Israel's interests to the detriment of the USA, lest they feel the wrath of the Marxist media at re-election time. Want a little political insight into "The USA's biggest ally in the Middle East" ??? ... You can start here... It's ALL here for ALL to see: - ....Authors: John J. Mearsheimer, Ph.D., Department of Political Science, University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt, Ph.D., Dean of the John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University
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Post by Manul on Dec 7, 2017 21:24:52 GMT
We know MUCH more than the tip of the iceberg by now. Trump, and the entire US government is an Israel servant. From the above video: (begins at 2m:38s mark)- "The actual policy, just like the Project for a New America Century laid-out very clearly that a A new 'Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance. You could never tell the American people or the world for that matter, 'We're going to fight wars of aggression where we're going to have to have to invade and occupy, we're going to have to spend hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars to achieve the goal of full spectrum dominance, which is to control, absolute control, over land, air, and sea, space and cyberspace. The American people never would have bought it, you can't tell them that, you have to tell them a bunch of lies".
"...a 'new Pearl Harbor' would be necessary to achieve this goal of full spectrum dominance." he said.He's alluding to the attack on the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001 (aka 9-11), of course, the 'kick-off' of The Greater Israel Project. US foreign policy, especially as it relates to the Middle East is built around ISRAEL'S best interests, not the USA's... That FACT was addressed in a "controversial" 2006 book, if you care to investigate it. Yeah, Israel is a BIG US ' ally' alright... The US taxpayer digs deep for at least $6 BILLION in 'foreign aid' to the Jewish state each and every year ($3.8 billion officially), and in return we get to send our sons and daughters to their deaths fighting Israel's wars for them. Their 'lobby' has hijacked US foreign policy, mainly via campaign finance contributions recycled from that very same USA 'foreign aid', and NONE of the people's elected representatives dare vote against AIPAC scripted legislation furthering Israel's interests to the detriment of the USA, lest they feel the wrath of the Marxist media at re-election time. Want a little political insight into "The USA's biggest ally in the Middle East" ??? ... You can start here... It's ALL here for ALL to see: - ....Authors: John J. Mearsheimer, Ph.D., Department of Political Science, University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt, Ph.D., Dean of the John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University
Yes, I agree with you, but why Trump recognised not Obama or Bush before him? Trump is hated by media which controlled mostly by american owners with jewish roots (good example is ABC/CNBC which belongs to Comcast, Brian Roberts the owner of Comcast, pure jew). In internet sources I have read assumption that Trump probably wants to draw attention back to USA, after total failure of Obama policy in Syria the belief in America in the region has weakened and Trump now tries to take initiative. He will wait until the storm after his decision will end and Arabs will ask him to negotiate with Israelis. Trump wants to see America as the main moderator of the Palestinian-Israeli settlement that's why he is provoking scandal. This is one of theories, but yes, contacts of USA with Israel are so strong that he can easily just work for jew lobby
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 7, 2017 23:17:39 GMT
I know that in the west widely spread opinion that "Jews are controlling USA", "Jews are behind multiculturalism" & "Jews are deep state" etc... From Russia it look slightly different, our local Jews (yes, they also love to work in media) often don't share the ideas/worldvision of American liberal Jews. Maybe we should talk more about american elites in general, the so-called "establishment" who frequently stand not for American national interest, but for some contrived ideological attitudes. Trump in this concrete case can act his own way, since he promised to recognize of Jerusalem as Israel's capital during election campaign. The Jews really control much of it. Especially they benefit from the multiculturalism in Europe! Easier to control and manipulate peoples!
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 7, 2017 23:24:01 GMT
It should not be forgotten that the main adviser to Trump an Orthodox Jew Jared Kushner! He as the husband of Ivanka must have a lot of influence. If I'm not mistaken this is the first time in U.S. history. It is worth considering...
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