khosro
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Post by khosro on Nov 20, 2017 0:49:54 GMT
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 20, 2017 13:10:05 GMT
This is a map of the settlement of the Iranian peoples in ancient times! Do I understand correctly?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 13:35:57 GMT
This is irani settlment. In fact, not settlement but the kingdom which was created by the Mitanni, also known as Hanigalbat and Narain by , whose king was Parshatatar. Their major rivals were the hittites and the egyptians.
Interesting thing about these kingdom was a kikulli horse training text, which provides the basis for the development of Indo-European languages.
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Post by Dominicanese on Nov 23, 2017 23:50:27 GMT
this kinna looks like it could be central asia
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 23, 2017 23:53:18 GMT
So what exactly does Aryan mean? After listening to Ross' rants on TA...nothing makes sense after him
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Post by kiwibloke on Nov 24, 2017 0:09:12 GMT
So what exactly does Aryan mean? After listening to Ross' rants on TA...nothing makes sense after him It refers to a particular tribe with its own distinctive features and history as a tribal group. They played a fairly distinctive role in the emergence of material dialectic thought, along with the Han and Semitic peoples. Notably, it founded the early basis for numbers and math, which found its way across the world and set the basis for the emergence of scientific man. But that is not to discount the collective effort of all the tribes of this species.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 24, 2017 0:45:18 GMT
So what exactly does Aryan mean? After listening to Ross' rants on TA...nothing makes sense after him Aryans is the Indo-Iranian peoples! or just Iranian. They are descended from the haplogroup R1a-Z93 which have common roots with the Slavs! Common roots on the ancient Indo-European level! Read more here - arktos.boards.net/thread/55/haplogroup-dna-r1a?page=2
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Post by Dominicanese on Nov 24, 2017 2:16:24 GMT
to me aryans were just the founding members of the caucasian race that we know of today, according to what has been written aryans were white skinned ppl with red, blonde, and brown hairs with light eyes they were from the north most likely from central asia or russia and the ones that went south and southeast into iran, india, afghanistan, and iraq became known as the aryans the ones that went southwest became menas or arabs, and the ones that went west became europeans that is y it is called indo-aryan languages or proto indo european languages some evidence of this is from some caucasian mummies they found in west china like these 3,000 year old mummy (male) 4,000 year old mummy (female)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:34:58 GMT
aryans were some central asian people, or eurasian who migrated from ural steppes mountatin.
That's what max mueller was too saying, that an ancient aryan people invaded the indus valley long time back, and they brough horse, war chariot and the language of sanskrit in which rig veda was compiled.
Their proposed migration hypothesis is kurgan culture. Most of them were known as bronze age giant.
In the 1850s Max Müller introduced the notion of two Aryan races, a western and an eastern one, who migrated from the Caucasus into Europe and India respectively. Müller dichotomized the two groups, ascribing greater prominence and value to the western branch. Nevertheless, this "eastern branch of the Aryan race was more powerful than the indigenous eastern natives, who were easy to conquer."[55] By the 1880s, his ideas had been "hijacked" by racist ethnologists. For example, as an exponent of race science, colonial administrator Herbert Hope Risley (1851 – 1911) used the ratio of the width of a nose to its height to divide Indian people into Aryan and Dravidian races, as well as seven castes.[56][57]
Müller's work contributed to the developing interest in Aryan culture, which often set Indo-European ('Aryan') traditions in opposition to Semitic religions. He was "deeply saddened by the fact that these classifications later came to be expressed in racist terms," as this was far from his intention.[58][note 10] For Müller the discovery of common Indian and European ancestry was a powerful argument against racism, arguing that "an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar" and that "the blackest Hindus represent an earlier stage of Aryan speech and thought than the fairest Scandinavians".[59] In his later work, Max Müller took great care to limit the use of the term "Aryan" to a strictly linguistic one.[60]
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:35:31 GMT
Indo-Aryan migration models[note 1] discuss scenarios around the theory of an origin from outside South Asia of Indo-Aryan peoples, an ascribed ethnolinguistic group that spoke Indo-Aryan languages, the predominant languages of North India. Proponents of Indo-Aryan origin outside of South Asia generally consider migrations into the region and Anatolia (ancient Mitanni) from Central Asia to have started around 1500 BCE, as a slow diffusion during the Late Harappan period, which led to a language shift in northern South Asia. The Iranian languages were brought into Iran by the Iranians, who were closely related to the Indo-Aryans.
The Proto-Indo-Iranians, from which the Indo-Aryans and the Iranians developed, formed as a distinguishable culture at the Central Asian steppes north of the Caspian Sea as the Sintashta culture (2100–1800 BCE),[2][3][4] present-day Kazakhstan, and developed further as the Andronovo culture (1800–1400 BCE),[5] around the Aral Sea. The proto-Indo-Iranians then migrated southwards to the Bactria-Margiana Culture, from which they borrowed their distinctive religious beliefs and practices. The Indo-Aryans split off around 1800–1600 BCE from the Iranians,[6] whereafter the Indo-Aryans migrated into Anatolia and the northern part of the South Asia (modern Afghanistan, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Nepal), while the Iranians moved into Iran, both bringing with them the Indo-Aryan languages.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:36:21 GMT
this kinna looks like it could be central asia yes central asia
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:42:36 GMT
However, there's no aryan race.
Aryans were nomadic group of people from central asia, and they were loosely connected through languages.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:45:38 GMT
Max mueller himself denied aryan race, and limited it to linguist, because ethilogist were using his work in a wrong manner
Müller's work contributed to the developing interest in Aryan culture, which often set Indo-European ('Aryan') traditions in opposition to Semitic religions. He was "deeply saddened by the fact that these classifications later came to be expressed in racist terms," as this was far from his intention.[58][note 10] For Müller the discovery of common Indian and European ancestry was a powerful argument against racism, arguing that "an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar" and that "the blackest Hindus represent an earlier stage of Aryan speech and thought than the fairest Scandinavians".[59] In his later work, Max Müller took great care to limit the use of the term "Aryan" to a strictly linguistic one.[60]
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 9, 2018 16:12:39 GMT
The modern population of India is more culturally linguistic heirs of the Aryans, and in the genetic plan there dominates the local population, pre-Aryan period!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 16:16:40 GMT
The modern population of India is more culturally linguistic heirs of the Aryans, and in the genetic plan there dominates the local population, pre-Aryan period! But the old aryans are now coming to extinct. Inbreeding too could not protect the aryans. More or less, aryans would be a lost legacy in this land of ganges now.
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