khosro
New Member
Posts: 19
Likes: 13
|
Post by khosro on Nov 20, 2017 0:49:54 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 11:55:06 GMT
But many brahmans are descendants of non-Aryans who, together with the Indo-Europeans, invaded India! This is a theory put forward by some bigots which is mostly rejected now. You can see that in the ancient Hindu epics, Ramayana and Mahabharatha, the Avatars Rama and Krishna have been described to be of dark complexion or black hue. Similarly with characters like Arjuna, Abhimanyu, Drona, Nakula and Draupadi.Colour of one's skin complexion was never an issue in India, as shown by the Avatars themselves described as of dark complexion. It is the intrinsic virtues or character which determined the Arya or unarya. For example Hitler killed many helpless Jewish children and women in genocides in the second world war in europe. The Aryan Kshatriyas consider harming of women and children dishonorable and unmanly, and of demonic character. Try to get pass in pakistani forums in facebook. I was MODERATOR OF 4 GROUPS OWNED BY PAKISTANI PEOPLE. They will definitely not allow you, this is confirmed. Who told you that it is being REJECTED? LOLS Aryan Invasions are documented very well. And what is also is known that many brahmans don't have aryan ancestry. Some aryans migrated towards gangetic plains and established their kingdom, but dravidian brahmanism usurpsed this, somehow, aryans just managed to save themselves through inbreeding, but they had left those regions of gangetic plains long time back. And these STATES ARE SICK On those tamil people, they are not even aryans. Check the maps. Karnataka had aryan presence only in udupi, also known as LAND OF PARASHURAMA, and they are gracile indics. Brahmin is just a class. Even jews bene israle konkanstha chitpavan were brahmins, peshwas. And this is a racial based classification forums. I am not even interested in dravidian brahmanical hinduism as I AM AN INBREED.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:00:21 GMT
//You can see that in the ancient Hindu epics, Ramayana and Mahabharatha, the Avatars Rama and Krishna have been described to be of dark complexion or black hue.
Similarly with characters like Arjuna, Abhimanyu, Drona, Nakula and Draupadi.Colour of one's skin complexion was never an issue in India, as shown by the Avatars themselves described as of dark complexion.//
ram krishna were indian gods, while arjuna etc were indo aryans, and they were not dark colored, but definitely, had meditterenean influence. Their facial structure were entirely different.
// It is the intrinsic virtues or character which determined the Arya or unarya.//
The vedas only describe migrants from central asia as aryans, and they are speakers of a certain family of language classified as INDOEUROPEANS.
//For example Hitler killed many helpless Jewish children and women in genocides in the second world war in europe.
The Aryan Kshatriyas consider harming of women and children dishonorable and unmanly, and of demonic character.//
There is no need to bring hitler here and also, your kshatriyas were not that innocent. Check it what bhishma did.
|
|
ajay0
Full Member
Posts: 162
Likes: 79
|
Post by ajay0 on Jan 28, 2018 12:00:58 GMT
That may be a certain interpretation of it by some people. But the traditional view is that Arya means noble or gentlemanly or virtuous. Hinduism and Buddhism are getting more relevant in India with time, as seen by the increasing number of people into yoga and meditation. The most industralized states in India are Gujarat, Maharashtra in the middle and karnataka, Tamil Nadu in the south, where India produces much of its scientists, engineers and nobel prize winners in sciences , along with the mathematical genius Ramanuman and world chess champion Vishwanathan Anand. gujrat, maharasthra, karantaka, exactly the places where central asian people migrated. Check the map. tamil nadu is more or less an agrarian, they just have manufacturing factories. LOLS, looks like you are not aware of the recent happening. Everyone in india now want to get their races identified. TAmil Nadu is the state which produced the mathematical genius Ramanujan, India's sole Nobel prize winner in physics in C.V.Raman. His nephew Subrahmanya Chandrashekhan won the Nobel prize in physics as well. 5 time former world chess champion and current rapid world champion Vishwanathan Anand also hails from there. India's ballistic missile man Dr. Kalam also came from there.Most of India's car factories are located in Tamil Nadu from what I have read. Racial identification is not much of a factor in India, as all Indians are more or less a mixed race due to numerous immigrations and invasions. I have only defined Arya in the cultural and religious context as put in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:04:40 GMT
// Tamil Nadu in the south, where India produces much of its scientists, engineers and nobel prize winners in sciences , along with the mathematical genius Ramanuman and world chess champion Vishwanathan Anand.//
ramanujan? 19th century? Not now right.
Even if tamil produces geniuses, they are still with indo-brachid. Definitely, won't be able to pass in pakistan.
chess players, what about russians KASPROV AND KARPOV then who defeats your anand consistently.
No need to impose nationalistic thoughts here, and especially tamil culture.
This is particularly for RACIAL CLASSIFICATION.
And YES, DESPITE DOCTRINE OF LAPSE BY MR DALHOUSIE MY ANCESTORS STILL REMAINED LANDLORD, both my grand fahter and his brother were ADOPTED by their aunt, and the lands which they got were from their mother's side. I am in INBREED. and we don't follow any type of mayan-aztec brought shamanism also your dravidian brahmanism of EAST GANGETIC CULTURE.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:05:40 GMT
// Racial identification is not much of a factor in India, as all Indians are more or less a mixed race due to numerous immigrations and invasions. //
Talk about yourself, I am an INBREED.
I have alraedy posted my olive skinned and tan skinned pictures.
And ARYA IS NOT AT ALL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:07:17 GMT
// TAmil Nadu is the state which produced the mathematical genius Ramanujan, India's sole Nobel prize winner in physics in C.V.Raman. His nephew Subrahmanya Chandrashekhan won the Nobel prize in physics as well. 5 time former world chess champion and current rapid world champion Vishwanathan Anand also hails from there.
India's ballistic missile man Dr. Kalam also came from there.Most of India's car factories are located in Tamil Nadu from what I have read.//
c v raman was from karantaka GRACILE INDIC, which means rigvedic stock. Not from your brachid tamil nadu.
Both of them were from karnataka regions.
mr kalam, stayed in rameshwaram, and he is not a HINDU, but muslim, even if converted.
|
|
ajay0
Full Member
Posts: 162
Likes: 79
|
Post by ajay0 on Jan 28, 2018 12:09:31 GMT
This is a theory put forward by some bigots which is mostly rejected now. You can see that in the ancient Hindu epics, Ramayana and Mahabharatha, the Avatars Rama and Krishna have been described to be of dark complexion or black hue. Similarly with characters like Arjuna, Abhimanyu, Drona, Nakula and Draupadi.Colour of one's skin complexion was never an issue in India, as shown by the Avatars themselves described as of dark complexion. It is the intrinsic virtues or character which determined the Arya or unarya. For example Hitler killed many helpless Jewish children and women in genocides in the second world war in europe. The Aryan Kshatriyas consider harming of women and children dishonorable and unmanly, and of demonic character. Aryan Invasions are documented very well. And what is also is known that many brahmans don't have aryan ancestry. Some aryans migrated towards gangetic plains and established their kingdom, but dravidian brahmanism usurpsed this, somehow, aryans just managed to save themselves through inbreeding, but they had left those regions of gangetic plains long time back. And these STATES ARE SICK On those tamil people, they are not even aryans. Check the maps. Karnataka had aryan presence only in udupi, also known as LAND OF PARASHURAMA, and they are gracile indics. Brahmin is just a class. Even jews bene israle konkanstha chitpavan were brahmins, peshwas. And this is a racial based classification forums. I am not even interested in dravidian brahmanical hinduism as I AM AN INBREED. Theories on Aryan invasion have become aryan immigration and so on, with indian scholars stating the 'out of India 'theory and so on. The discovery of the Saraswati river bed also changes the historical paradigms a lot. There is no conclusive and definite evidence in all this. If aryans as per the Nordic context exist in India, they would be white and blonde, and would not look dark like that in your profile picture. Also inbreeding always causes genetic sicknesses. This is especially evident in many small caste groups.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:10:22 GMT
no need to promote here tamil glorification mr ajay. This is specifically a forum meant for anthropology, racial classification and ethnicities.
You can post your ramayan and mahabharata in mythology section, dedicated for such purposes. Let us see how many people would be intersted in this.
In fact, my father was also contemplating to convert to islam because we lost land after seeing the rise of PEASENTRY BRACHIDS OF INDIA.
And If given a chance, I WILL CHOSE CHRISTIANITY.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:12:29 GMT
//If aryans as per the Nordic context exist in India, they would be white and blonde, and would not look dark like that in your profile picture. //
ha ha ha, well,When did I say that I am nordic?
See, you yourself are very confused.
I said, I am an INBREED. My ancestors were giants or daitya.
I am an INBREED.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:13:08 GMT
// Theories on Aryan invasion have become aryan immigration and so on, with indian scholars stating the 'out of India 'theory and so on. //
what about r1a1-z93 haplogroup?
They are not going out of india, but coming INTO INDIA.
|
|
ajay0
Full Member
Posts: 162
Likes: 79
|
Post by ajay0 on Jan 28, 2018 12:14:26 GMT
Even if tamil produces geniuses, they are still with indo-brachid. Definitely, won't be able to pass in pakistan. Who bothers about Pakistan in all this! I never identified here with any region. Just put down my observations and facts.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:16:11 GMT
Even if tamil produces geniuses, they are still with indo-brachid. Definitely, won't be able to pass in pakistan. Who bothers about Pakistan in all this! I never identified here with any region. Just put down my observations and facts. Why not, if you are saying that aryan is just a culture, anyone can become it. Pakistan has scythian people, indo-iranis even today. Try to get pass there first, let us see if they will consider you aryan.
|
|
ajay0
Full Member
Posts: 162
Likes: 79
|
Post by ajay0 on Jan 28, 2018 12:16:52 GMT
//If aryans as per the Nordic context exist in India, they would be white and blonde, and would not look dark like that in your profile picture. // My ancestors were giants or daitya. I am an INBREED. Inbred from what I understand is those who breed amongst themselves in a particular caste or group. This is not medically advisable due to the preponderance of genetic diseases that can come about through this. 'My ancestors were giants or daitya.' What do you mean by 'giants' ! Can you elaborate on this.
|
|
ajay0
Full Member
Posts: 162
Likes: 79
|
Post by ajay0 on Jan 28, 2018 12:20:26 GMT
Who bothers about Pakistan in all this! I never identified here with any region. Just put down my observations and facts. Why not, if you are saying that aryan is just a culture, anyone can become it. Pakistan has scythian people, indo-iranis even today. Try to get pass there first, let us see if they will consider you aryan. I am not that interested in getting certified as Aryan in pakistan with its taliban and frequent suicide bombings. If you live there, you have my sympathies. I only explained Arya from the cultural context.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 13:27:36 GMT
Why not, if you are saying that aryan is just a culture, anyone can become it. Pakistan has scythian people, indo-iranis even today. Try to get pass there first, let us see if they will consider you aryan. I am not that interested in getting certified as Aryan in pakistan with its taliban and frequent suicide bombings. If you live there, you have my sympathies. I only explained Arya from the cultural context. Turkish actress, hazal kaya, from eastern europe, olive skin Arjun used to look like this Bronze age andronovo warrior This will clear all your doubt. And for me, I also have light shade. Check it:
|
|