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Post by jonbain on Jul 13, 2018 19:53:25 GMT
Its a bit perturbing that this forum only seems to recognize the 3 divided types of Christianism: Protestant, Catholic, Orthodoxy.
I happen to consider such divisions the work of Satan, and those who buy into them have vested interests in collecting tithes, and thus are sacramentarians: not True Christians.
As a mystic, I see Christ's teachings as being transcendental to church. In the parable of the good Samaritan, he clearly shows that one's actions are what are vital, not which symbols one wears.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 16:44:39 GMT
I already wrote a lot of things on this forum and I noticed that you instantly respond to messages without even reading it. If you are not ready to accept the opinions of others even as an alternative view and all stigmatize I will remind you that you are also a human being..all people lie correctly ?? But then why are you at the forum? You absolutely do not understand my position here because English is not native to me .. difficult to articulate more and more correctly so you will build your own strange guesses by carping at words. I'm not saying that I'm cool and perfect .. but I really understood your position. And I conclude that this is just your dogma. Nothing else! āāyou instantly respond to messages without even reading it.ā How do you know I donāt read? Are you in my mind? Watching my eyes? Watching me read? You assume. The fact is I do read messages. āIf you are not ready to accept the opinions of others even as an alternative view and all stigmatize I will remind you that you are also a human being..all people lie correctly ?? But then why are you at the forum?ā I donāt have to accept others opinions. Where is the rule or law for this? I can either agree or disagree. I will consider someoneās opinion, but I do not have to accept it. And nobody has to accept my opinion either. But if youāre going to run around this forum and complain about me in the shout-box, in private messages to other members, and in other threads where I have not posted, it shows you need to get over the fact that we do not agree. I do not agree with many people on this forum, but you are the only one who complains about me to others. People are tired of your complaining. āYou absolutely do not understand my position hereā Actually I do, I just donāt accept your opinion because I donāt have to. Iāve considered it, but I disagree. You know this already, so get over it. This is my last message about this. Iām sure others are tired of seeing us argue back and forth, Iām tired of it myself. Agree to disagree with me, stop complaining to others in the forum about me, stop provoking, and move on. Pretend Iām dead š
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Post by ĪĪ¹Ī±Ī¼ĪæĪ½Ī“ on Jul 17, 2018 16:55:25 GMT
DKTrav88 I already said everything about Peter. You had such important things at night that you can see mostly talking to me here! Buddy if you do not care about the opinions of others, it's reason to leave from here (not necessarily) you can write in your profile - That you do not care about the opinions of other people.- And other users will immediately understand that you are dead to them! You yourself confessed that you are indifferent to the opinions.. why we should your interest be for you? You create different topics here and write messages to other people.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 17:12:48 GMT
DKTrav88 I already said everything about Peter. You had such important things at night that you can see mostly talking to me here! Buddy if you do not care about the opinions of others, it's reason to leave from here (not necessarily) you can write in your profile - That you do not care about the opinions of other people.- And other users will immediately understand that you are dead to them! You yourself confessed that you are indifferent to the opinions.. why we should your interest be for you? You create different topics here and write messages to other people. You do not understand my English.
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Post by ĪĪ¹Ī±Ī¼ĪæĪ½Ī“ on Jul 17, 2018 17:18:27 GMT
I do ignore you (although you do not hurry to do it myself) I just finished the verdict about this situation here. You just confirmed my opinion that it is profitable for you to live in your illusion. about my opinion and what I'm doing here Shrug
Have a good day..
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 17, 2018 20:41:59 GMT
God is love, he always answers .. but your -sola faith- alone is not salvation. Where are your good deeds? I see that you are only engaged in trolling here .. this is not good! Who am I to boast of my good deeds? Where are your good deeds? Who are you to boast? I didnāt engage in any trolling. You take it as trolling because you do not understand. Faith is what saves you, works are what prove your faith and make it perfect. Your goal here is to discredit me. Why? I donāt know. You see me as a threat? I donāt know, I donāt care really, but you do it constantly. You talk about me randomly in threads for no reason shrug itās odd behavior, anyone can go through the threads and see it. I donāt do it to you shrug You say I try to instigate and provoke when it is you who does it constantly. You get triggered by my posts and threads because youāre offended at what I have to say, much like the Pharisees were offended at what Christ said. If I am wrong, then you have nothing to worry about and you should ignore me, right? No, you canāt ignore me, like the Pharisees couldnāt ignore Christ. People call it a man crush. He cannot keep himself from you and wants to talk to you daily and about you daily. You consume his thoughts. You have a big fan
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 17, 2018 20:46:42 GMT
I already wrote a lot of things on this forum and I noticed that you instantly respond to messages without even reading it. If you are not ready to accept the opinions of others even as an alternative view and all stigmatize I will remind you that you are also a human being..all people lie correctly ?? But then why are you at the forum? You absolutely do not understand my position here because English is not native to me .. difficult to articulate more and more correctly so you will build your own strange guesses by carping at words. I'm not saying that I'm cool and perfect .. but I really understood your position. And I conclude that this is just your dogma. Nothing else! āāyou instantly respond to messages without even reading it.ā How do you know I donāt read? Are you in my mind? Watching my eyes? Watching me read? You assume. The fact is I do read messages. āIf you are not ready to accept the opinions of others even as an alternative view and all stigmatize I will remind you that you are also a human being..all people lie correctly ?? But then why are you at the forum?ā I donāt have to accept others opinions. Where is the rule or law for this? I can either agree or disagree. I will consider someoneās opinion, but I do not have to accept it. And nobody has to accept my opinion either. But if youāre going to run around this forum and complain about me in the shout-box, in private messages to other members, and in other threads where I have not posted, it shows you need to get over the fact that we do not agree. I do not agree with many people on this forum, but you are the only one who complains about me to others. People are tired of your complaining. āYou absolutely do not understand my position hereā Actually I do, I just donāt accept your opinion because I donāt have to. Iāve considered it, but I disagree. You know this already, so get over it. This is my last message about this. Iām sure others are tired of seeing us argue back and forth, Iām tired of it myself. Agree to disagree with me, stop complaining to others in the forum about me, stop provoking, and move on. Pretend Iām dead š He always must have the last say. If you reply he has to reply. He won't stop replying unless you stop replying first. Some strange thing. I've learned to reply less more not to get headaches. I might get quoted for this but will ignore Shrug
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Post by ĪĪ¹Ī±Ī¼ĪæĪ½Ī“ on Jul 17, 2018 21:29:46 GMT
What is the problem? Everyone has his own position, and this should be understood ... if I am beaten for my position here it is not my fault. But I forgive of course.
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Post by MEGA on Jul 17, 2018 22:58:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 15:10:14 GMT
According to scripture you are not even allowed to teach or preach to men. All I am saying is that your action of saying which faith will go to hell or not is wrong. Incorrect. It says I'm not allowed to teach at all when in church so that's men and women. But I'm on a forum. Have a good day
1 Timothy 2 King James Version (KJV)
2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 15:12:46 GMT
Your judgements of other's act like him...based off your fruits I just assumed he already was welcomeYour judgements of other's act like him...based off your fruits I just assumed he already was welcome. You're judging me bruh You're not allowed to do that bruh Your judgements of other's act like him...based off your fruits I just assumed he already was welcome
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 19, 2018 15:42:31 GMT
You're judging me bruh You're not allowed to do that bruh Your judgements of other's act like him...based off your fruits I just assumed he already was welcome Oh, so we are allowed to judge now? Okay. So in my discernment I act like Satan? How? How does Satan judge others? We are supposed to be able to discern good and evil. We as Christians are supposed to tell people what is evil based on Godās word, whether or not they want to listen is up to them. It isnāt about dominating people, where you get that impression I donāt know. People have the choice to listen or not. We cannot dominate anyone through a forum nor can we make anyone do anything outside their own will in person. We are to tell people the truth in love that they might come to the knowledge of the truth, come to repentance, and come to faith in Christ. What are my fruits?
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 19, 2018 15:43:13 GMT
Incorrect. It says I'm not allowed to teach at all when in church so that's men and women. But I'm on a forum. Have a good day
1 Timothy 2 King James Version (KJV)
2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastoral_epistles
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 19, 2018 18:57:34 GMT
Incorrect. It says I'm not allowed to teach at all when in church so that's men and women. But I'm on a forum. Have a good day
1 Timothy 2 King James Version (KJV)
2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I had no clue you didn't know what "all men" meant since women pray and give thanks in bible too. But I googled it for you.
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Post by jonbain on Jul 19, 2018 20:33:42 GMT
BECAUSE I AM A MYSTIC CHRISTIAN WHOSE FAITH COMES FROM PHILOSOPHY AND THUS I DO NOT FIT INTO THE OTHER THREE CATEGORIES But is this conjunction possible? Will not you being a mystic, would be a paganism? I mean, mystics are more about trying to search for god, through meditation, rituals, etc, while christians need to follow 10 commandments, I think, there are declared as heresy in bible. , the mystic concludes there are no boundaries (or very few) to oneās experience of God. The experience alone is its justification and authority www.mikeduran.com/2017/11/27/the-dangers-of-christian-mysticism/Well I did start as a Pagan, searching for the Truth, whatever it may be. And I had a very low opinion of the Christian religion, but a high regard for Christs teachings. So it was a weird surprise that John the Baptist and Jesus both presented themselves to me and baptized me in the spirit. So how else can I refer to myself? I still believe in reincarnation, and they both made no effort to disagree. I can see nothing in the new testament which is contrary to this or any of my other beliefs. I am certainly not a fan of rituals, they are reminiscent of idol-worship. I found my way to Christian morals by noting that psychological disorders belong to those without them. And appreciated Christian ethics by simply observing how nations with such generally have a better quality of life. I'll look at your link in a bit.
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Post by jonbain on Jul 19, 2018 20:48:30 GMT
BECAUSE I AM A MYSTIC CHRISTIAN WHOSE FAITH COMES FROM PHILOSOPHY AND THUS I DO NOT FIT INTO THE OTHER THREE CATEGORIES But is this conjunction possible? Will not you being a mystic, would be a paganism? I mean, mystics are more about trying to search for god, through meditation, rituals, etc, while christians need to follow 10 commandments, I think, there are declared as heresy in bible. , the mystic concludes there are no boundaries (or very few) to oneās experience of God. The experience alone is its justification and authority www.mikeduran.com/2017/11/27/the-dangers-of-christian-mysticism/As regards the fears of those who are hiding behind the pulpit, especially the link you quote. Lets deal with these words from it: How do we know what is false? By using our God-given rational mind of course! If the voice in the head tells you to do something immoral, don't do it. Its really as easy as rocket-science. (Which is not that difficult, btw). There are plenty of churches doing wrong things. Pseudo-Christianity was used as an excuse for apartheid and child-abuse which generated violent racists. Only by using my own understanding did I destroy that evil system. So I would never have had anything to do with the word Christianity unless Christ himself came and spoke to me. Which he did. A testament to his realness, for certain. The only valid warning on the link I saw after reading a few pages, was against astrology. An example of astrology being when people note the position of sun is the same as the day they were born; now everyone is compelled to sing that horrid song and buy expensive worthless gifts. And anyone who does not follow this ritual is an outcast. Something almost every churcher does unthinkingly. But astrology can be used for good purposes, much like a Rorschach test...
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