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Post by jonbain on Jul 13, 2018 19:53:25 GMT
Its a bit perturbing that this forum only seems to recognize the 3 divided types of Christianism: Protestant, Catholic, Orthodoxy.
I happen to consider such divisions the work of Satan, and those who buy into them have vested interests in collecting tithes, and thus are sacramentarians: not True Christians.
As a mystic, I see Christ's teachings as being transcendental to church. In the parable of the good Samaritan, he clearly shows that one's actions are what are vital, not which symbols one wears.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 10:48:08 GMT
Couple of flip-flops in this thread Better go to sleep .. the Jewish capitalists are waiting for you to come out to serve their interests. I 100% understand your position (I'm not kidding) and I do not agree with that. Shrug And the devil is waiting for you to serve his interests, better get to it chop-chop
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 17, 2018 10:52:40 GMT
Better go to sleep .. the Jewish capitalists are waiting for you to come out to serve their interests. I 100% understand your position (I'm not kidding) and I do not agree with that. And the devil is waiting for you to serve his interests, better get to it chop-chop To prove that your position is true show you the name of a Christian who believed like you and lived in the 6th century ..or 10! If you are right then such as you were at all times. But I found only Pelagius. Shrug he denied the original sin!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 10:56:04 GMT
And the devil is waiting for you to serve his interests, better get to it chop-chop To prove that your position is true show you the name of a Christian who believed like you and lived in the 6th century ..or 10! If you are right then such as you were at all times. But I found only Pelagius. Shrug he denied the original sin! I dont follow church ordained saints and “fathers” like you do. That’s what you don’t understand. You have so much faith in man it has blinded you. You won’t even pick up the scriptures and read them without the church holding your hand.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 10:57:05 GMT
The Church is the pillar of truth .. she does not speak for herself. God acts through it. Your church is practicing mysticism, there is no God in your church the russian christianity is ORTHODOXY, so the mysticism is part of it, which means, the old culture has been preserved.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 10:58:23 GMT
Your church is practicing mysticism, there is no God in your church the russian christianity is ORTHODOXY, so the mysticism is part of it, which means, the old culture has been preserved. Wrongly preserved. Hesychasm itself was accepted into the Orthodox Church in the 1300’s AD shrug
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 17, 2018 11:01:02 GMT
To prove that your position is true show you the name of a Christian who believed like you and lived in the 6th century ..or 10! If you are right then such as you were at all times. But I found only Pelagius. he denied the original sin! I dont follow church ordained saints and “fathers” like you do. That’s what you don’t understand. You have so much faith in man it has blinded you. You won’t even pick up the scriptures and read them without the church holding your hand. The Pharisees even pick up the Scriptures and did not recognize the Messiah! Shrug The Church is the Body of Christ. In Ephesians 1: 22-23 it is written, "And he hath put everything under his feet, and set him high above all things, the head of the church, which is his body, the fullness of him that filleth all in all." The body of Christ consists of believers from Pentecost to a wonderful ascension at the end of time! I have already said what you are doing .. and each of your message this confirms.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 17, 2018 11:02:15 GMT
Your church is practicing mysticism, there is no God in your church the russian christianity is ORTHODOXY, so the mysticism is part of it, which means, the old culture has been preserved. it is necessary to understand everyone's view of the mysticism .. for some people, mysticism is a UFO Shrug
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 11:03:35 GMT
I dont follow church ordained saints and “fathers” like you do. That’s what you don’t understand. You have so much faith in man it has blinded you. You won’t even pick up the scriptures and read them without the church holding your hand. The Pharisees even pick up the Scriptures and did not recognize the Messiah! Shrug The Church is the Body of Christ. In Ephesians 1: 22-23 it is written, "And he hath put everything under his feet, and set him high above all things, the head of the church, which is his body, the fullness of him that filleth all in all." The body of Christ consists of believers from Pentecost to a wonderful ascension at the end of time! I have already said what you are doing .. and each of your message this confirms.“The Pharisees even pick up the Scriptures and did not recognize the Messiah!” Yes, just as the Orthodox Church does. A body that has no head is dead.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 17, 2018 11:07:01 GMT
The Pharisees even pick up the Scriptures and did not recognize the Messiah! The Church is the Body of Christ. In Ephesians 1: 22-23 it is written, "And he hath put everything under his feet, and set him high above all things, the head of the church, which is his body, the fullness of him that filleth all in all." The body of Christ consists of believers from Pentecost to a wonderful ascension at the end of time! I have already said what you are doing .. and each of your message this confirms.“The Pharisees even pick up the Scriptures and did not recognize the Messiah!” Yes, just as the Orthodox Church does. A body that has no head is dead. You just confirmed my opinion about your actions. I'm not going to do judgments.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 11:08:27 GMT
“The Pharisees even pick up the Scriptures and did not recognize the Messiah!” Yes, just as the Orthodox Church does. A body that has no head is dead. You just confirmed my opinion about your actions. I'm not going to do judgments. 1 Corinthians 2:15 KJV [15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. John 7:24 KJV [24] Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 17, 2018 11:11:41 GMT
as always uses the Scriptures for their own purposes .. I understand you tormented by the fact that I wrote you a couple of days ago .. You just laughed and did not give a reply Shrug
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 17, 2018 11:17:09 GMT
lamburk You're right. there is no point in defending my position here when I have already expressed it 100%. Scripture says how to act in such cases .. if the Scriptures for me authority I will do this and will not engage in demagoguery! Have a nice day everyone .. now the summer!
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 11:20:02 GMT
as always uses the Scriptures for their own purposes .. I understand you tormented by the fact that I wrote you a couple of days ago .. You just laughed and did not give a reply Shrug You cannot discern scripture? No surprise, you have to ask your church what it means instead of relying on the Holy Spirit to teach, 1 Corinthians 2:12-13 KJV [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. Oh? I laughed at it because it was wrong. The council at laodecia was not where canon was accepted. Biblical canon was first accepted in the 2nd century, long before any council was a thought in anyone’s mind. Your history is biased in a way so it fits your narrative.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 11:27:33 GMT
lamburk You're right. there is no point in defending my position here when I have already expressed it 100%. Scripture says how to act in such cases .. if the Scriptures for me authority I will do this and will not engage in demagoguery! Have a nice day everyone .. now the summer! Care to explain how I’m a demagogue? I’m not a leader on this forum, nor do I want admin privileges unlike yourself. I do not seek power.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 17, 2018 11:35:15 GMT
To start. I in the province do not have much time to read the Scriptures here. Secondly. The Orthodox Church greets when Christians themselves interpret the Bible .. .in result we do not contradict the Canon in our Church . Think about why so! If your position is correct and from God, then tell me the names of other Christians who believe like you and who lived in the 6th or 8th century. Or even in the 21st century. Who compiled the canon in the 2nd century? which group of Christians? name and region?
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