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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 22, 2018 8:42:54 GMT
What do you think?
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 22, 2018 19:05:37 GMT
I would think so. A human has the potential to be happy or not happy after all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 19:21:31 GMT
Elizabeth I think you are too positive and optimistic in general. I don't think its achievable
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 22, 2018 19:40:24 GMT
Elizabeth I think you are too positive and optimistic in general. I don't think its achievable Why not? People have dreams and can achieve them and be happy I think.
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Post by cvolt on Apr 22, 2018 19:54:19 GMT
True happiness for me can be achieved very easily. It doesn't take being rich or having a lot of material things.
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Post by joustos on Apr 22, 2018 20:02:27 GMT
A long time ago (in my life),I heard of "perfetta letizia" (Perfecta Laetitia, full happiness) that can be attained only in God, only in the next life (in Paradise).However, I usually questioned what I was being taught. How can one be perfectly happy, even in Paradise if he knows that others, though deservingly, have to suffer forever in Hell? I still think that a person, anywhere, cannot feel truly happy if others are unhappy. (When I followed the words of the opera "Cavalleria Rusticana", I learned that in a Sicilian folksong, the lover says, "... and if I die and go to Paradise but don't find you there, I will not even go in". Such is the love for other human beings.)
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 22, 2018 20:09:38 GMT
A long time ago (in my life),I heard of "perfetta letizia" (Perfecta Laetitia, full happiness) that can be attained only in God, only in the next life (in Paradise).However, I usually questioned what I was being taught. How can one be perfectly happy, even in Paradise if he knows that others, though deservingly, have to suffer forever in Hell? I still think that a person, anywhere, cannot feel truly happy if others are unhappy. (When I followed the words of the opera "Cavalleria Rusticana", I learned that in a Sicilian folksong, the lover says, "... and if I die and go to Paradise but don't find you there, I will not even go in". Such is the love for other human beings.) No, in heaven we won't have any sad emotions or pain to even cause sad emotions. Basically, it'll be completely different in the spirit form. So we won't know of suffering or that some are suffering somewhere .. Revelation 21:4 N 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
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Post by joustos on Apr 22, 2018 20:48:41 GMT
A long time ago (in my life),I heard of "perfetta letizia" (Perfecta Laetitia, full happiness) that can be attained only in God, only in the next life (in Paradise).However, I usually questioned what I was being taught. How can one be perfectly happy, even in Paradise if he knows that others, though deservingly, have to suffer forever in Hell? I still think that a person, anywhere, cannot feel truly happy if others are unhappy. (When I followed the words of the opera "Cavalleria Rusticana", I learned that in a Sicilian folksong, the lover says, "... and if I die and go to Paradise but don't find you there, I will not even go in". Such is the love for other human beings.) No, in heaven we won't have any emotions or pain to even cause emotions. Basically, it'll be completely different in the spirit form. So we won't know of suffering or that some are suffering somewhere .. Revelation 21:4 N 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.” Elizabeth, I am sorry to say that those who go to Paradise drink of the River of Oblivion: Their human personalities are dead forever .
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 22, 2018 20:55:18 GMT
No, in heaven we won't have any emotions or pain to even cause emotions. Basically, it'll be completely different in the spirit form. So we won't know of suffering or that some are suffering somewhere .. Revelation 21:4 N 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.” Elizabeth, I am sorry to say that those who go to Paradise drink of the River of Oblivion: Their human personalities are dead forever . Quote the river thing? But I don't think we lose personalities since angels are spirits have their own personality as God does. But why is hell better?
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Post by Mahaluz on Apr 22, 2018 20:59:04 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Apr 22, 2018 21:01:38 GMT
True happiness? In this world it is only a difficult self-deception ... some people get drugs to get 'happiness'!
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Post by just10sp on Apr 22, 2018 21:03:45 GMT
Yea of course it can.
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Post by Festtt on Apr 22, 2018 21:40:51 GMT
impossible to say without setting a definition tbh. I think it's one of those ideas we think matter but it really doesn't.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 23, 2018 1:39:42 GMT
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Post by just10sp on Apr 23, 2018 2:33:33 GMT
Because true happiness is true happiness, not fairytale happiness. I'm not really up for writing a long post, I am tired and can't think straight ;p Peace is the highest known state of bliss. Higher than love. I say known because I have not seen Peace Love.. LolAs an out of body explorer in my past I have felt very deep feelings of love, beyond what you can feel while awake according to me. While in spirit you can come across the most amazing people! Even if you cannot exercise dream control they will take control of the dream you are in an essentially give you a glimpse of heaven. I was very adept and enjoyed displaying my powerful abilities. I have turned into fire, and when I do so my whole body would become several degrees warmer. Like a fire bender. I also entered dreams like the pink clouds in the sunset. I have woke up with my entire body vibrating, after healing myself from within dreams. I could teleport anywhere at will and show off to my dream friends. Those who have been reborn into spirit. I could cause my entire surroundings to shatter into pieces at will and felt incredibly powerful. I even stood on a mountain and raised it above all. I have evenseen the Holy Spirit who taught me to do these things, I have fallen far from his teachings ;p I have been a bird even, flying through the skies (lucid dreaming, not out of body) Unfortunately, devils can also enter your dreams, so I was taught to not be corrupted by them nor be afraid. Like in many movies and games once a young child uses magic they kick the child away because they know it attracts demons. This is how you can achieve fairytale happiness Most people are too unaware and think even though people had magic in the bible, no one is full of the spirit today. It is a neive understanding of Christianity. Spirits used to enter my dreams all the time, I was like famous I have even traveled the real world while out of body and have watched people. My grandpa was chess master and bridge master, at ages 23 and 25, and part of the Eagles Club. He did the same thing. He also was a part of The Knights Templar which I am not proud of. Many people can do these things. That's why you hear about it all the time. Because of my clabilities from within dreams I was invited to join The Order. You will not find it on the internet You may not believe me but you believe the fire breathers can breath fire, silence the heavens, and turn water into blood. I have seen the fire breathers (the two witnesses), they have flames taller than trees coming out of their mouths for hours at a time. It is hard to imagine being truly happy without being born into the flesh visible world and also the spirit no visible world. Material and non-material. Jesus was not the only one who could know peoples thoughts ;p It's called clairaudient. Satan and his devils are telepathic, they convince those who are not of very strong in their faith to do evil by whispering them thoughts. Usually geniuses who are becoming aware of the unknown. Becoming too knowledgable of God. They kill and pervert people who are becoming a threat, I am and wills always be on Gods side. Too much information too hard to believe? Or just enough. Heh I try not to lie to my friends to the best of my ability. Some things that I am ashamed of I keep secret, I really should keep the things I am proud of secret. Just waiting on Jesus’ return ;p That should be proof right there, I praise Jesus all day, why would I lie right in front of the one who gave me life then came and taught us these things 2000 years ago, and still teaches people today as the Spirit of Truth? I wouldn't I am God loving and the only thing I fear is God. That makes me sound tough but there's a few things. but like I've even ran up to a pack of wolves thinking they were attacking a girl. I heard a scream and I suppose the girl saw them and ran away by the time I got there and they were eating something else, they ran away.
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