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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 22, 2018 8:42:54 GMT
What do you think?
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Post by just10sp on Apr 23, 2018 2:34:34 GMT
Wow, that was long. Sometimes I phase out when I'm tired and write a lot.
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Post by just10sp on Apr 23, 2018 3:04:33 GMT
A long time ago (in my life),I heard of "perfetta letizia" (Perfecta Laetitia, full happiness) that can be attained only in God, only in the next life (in Paradise).However, I usually questioned what I was being taught. How can one be perfectly happy, even in Paradise if he knows that others, though deservingly, have to suffer forever in Hell? I still think that a person, anywhere, cannot feel truly happy if others are unhappy. (When I followed the words of the opera "Cavalleria Rusticana", I learned that in a Sicilian folksong, the lover says, "... and if I die and go to Paradise but don't find you there, I will not even go in". Such is the love for other human beings.) God loves humans and always will he knows our vulnerability so he sent his only Son Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, to come forgive us. While here he said that the lake of fire is prepared for the devil and his angels. Also, those who worship the Beast. The wicked ones. Us normal average people are saved. If you read my last post you will see I have experienced glimpses of heavens by good spirits. Just yesterday I learned angels are spirits, I now think they were angels. What I did to deserve it I have no idea. Jesus even came to me in the form of the Holy Spirit. He reached out his hands to me and I cried for four hours. Within one second, a single glimpse he revealed to me my entire past. He knew every song I had ever listened to. I even cried in the dream. I instinctively asked him for help and he let me know how I could see him again. I truly have no idea why he did this for me. He really is our Saviour.
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Post by joustos on Apr 23, 2018 15:15:43 GMT
Because true happiness is true happiness, not fairytale happiness. I'm not really up for writing a long post, I am tired and can't think straight ;p Peace is the highest known state of bliss. Higher than love. I say known because I have not seen Peace Love.. LolAs an out of body explorer in my past I have felt very deep feelings of love, beyond what you can feel while awake according to me. While in spirit you can come across the most amazing people! Even if you cannot exercise dream control they will take control of the dream you are in an essentially give you a glimpse of heaven. I was very adept and enjoyed displaying my powerful abilities. I have turned into fire, and when I do so my whole body would become several degrees warmer. Like a fire bender. I also entered dreams like the pink clouds in the sunset. I have woke up with my entire body vibrating, after healing myself from within dreams. I could teleport anywhere at will and show off to my dream friends. Those who have been reborn into spirit. I could cause my entire surroundings to shatter into pieces at will and felt incredibly powerful. I even stood on a mountain and raised it above all. I have evenseen the Holy Spirit who taught me to do these things, I have fallen far from his teachings ;p I have been a bird even, flying through the skies (lucid dreaming, not out of body) Unfortunately, devils can also enter your dreams, so I was taught to not be corrupted by them nor be afraid. Like in many movies and games once a young child uses magic they kick the child away because they know it attracts demons. This is how you can achieve fairytale happiness Most people are too unaware and think even though people had magic in the bible, no one is full of the spirit today. It is a neive understanding of Christianity. Spirits used to enter my dreams all the time, I was like famous I have even traveled the real world while out of body and have watched people. My grandpa was chess master and bridge master, at ages 23 and 25, and part of the Eagles Club. He did the same thing. He also was a part of The Knights Templar which I am not proud of. Many people can do these things. That's why you hear about it all the time. Because of my clabilities from within dreams I was invited to join The Order. You will not find it on the internet You may not believe me but you believe the fire breathers can breath fire, silence the heavens, and turn water into blood. I have seen the fire breathers (the two witnesses), they have flames taller than trees coming out of their mouths for hours at a time. It is hard to imagine being truly happy without being born into the flesh visible world and also the spirit no visible world. Material and non-material. Jesus was not the only one who could know peoples thoughts ;p It's called clairaudient. Satan and his devils are telepathic, they convince those who are not of very strong in their faith to do evil by whispering them thoughts. Usually geniuses who are becoming aware of the unknown. Becoming too knowledgable of God. They kill and pervert people who are becoming a threat, I am and wills always be on Gods side. Too much information too hard to believe? Or just enough. Heh I try not to lie to my friends to the best of my ability. Some things that I am ashamed of I keep secret, I really should keep the things I am proud of secret. Just waiting on Jesus’ return ;p That should be proof right there, I praise Jesus all day, why would I lie right in front of the one who gave me life then came and taught us these things 2000 years ago, and still teaches people today as the Spirit of Truth? I wouldn't I am God loving and the only thing I fear is God. That makes me sound tough but there's a few things. but like I've even ran up to a pack of wolves thinking they were attacking a girl. I heard a scream and I suppose the girl saw them and ran away by the time I got there and they were eating something else, they ran away. One can certainly do many things in dreams [in the life of the pure spirit] which he cannot in real life. Sometimes the two worlds are confused. So, for example, there is the classical case of a certain Simon who believed that he had achieved spiritualization and (like you) he could fly like a bird. However, when he jumped off a cliff, the law of gravitation took over and he crashed to his death. // I was surprised that you are not proud of an ancestor who was connected with the Templars (the Order of the Soldiers of Christ). After their persecution, the Order of Sion became the guardian of the Ark of the Covenant which the Templars had found in Ethiopia.Nominally at least, the Rosicrucians are the successors of that Order, but I don't know much about them, as to why they would be interested in your out-of-body and other spiritual experiences. Could it be that you could help them to locate the Ark for them? Tell them that by detective investigations, I located it under the Calvary (under the pedestal of the iron Cross in Rennes-le-Chateau), where priest Sauniere hid it after emptying it of its gold ["the treasure of the Templars"].... But this is a long and boaring story which has nothing to do with the nature or attainability of true happiness. Cheers and watch out for the Simon complex.
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Post by just10sp on Apr 23, 2018 17:05:26 GMT
Because true happiness is true happiness, not fairytale happiness. I'm not really up for writing a long post, I am tired and can't think straight ;p Peace is the highest known state of bliss. Higher than love. I say known because I have not seen Peace Love.. LolAs an out of body explorer in my past I have felt very deep feelings of love, beyond what you can feel while awake according to me. While in spirit you can come across the most amazing people! Even if you cannot exercise dream control they will take control of the dream you are in an essentially give you a glimpse of heaven. I was very adept and enjoyed displaying my powerful abilities. I have turned into fire, and when I do so my whole body would become several degrees warmer. Like a fire bender. I also entered dreams like the pink clouds in the sunset. I have woke up with my entire body vibrating, after healing myself from within dreams. I could teleport anywhere at will and show off to my dream friends. Those who have been reborn into spirit. I could cause my entire surroundings to shatter into pieces at will and felt incredibly powerful. I even stood on a mountain and raised it above all. I have evenseen the Holy Spirit who taught me to do these things, I have fallen far from his teachings ;p I have been a bird even, flying through the skies (lucid dreaming, not out of body) Unfortunately, devils can also enter your dreams, so I was taught to not be corrupted by them nor be afraid. Like in many movies and games once a young child uses magic they kick the child away because they know it attracts demons. This is how you can achieve fairytale happiness Most people are too unaware and think even though people had magic in the bible, no one is full of the spirit today. It is a neive understanding of Christianity. Spirits used to enter my dreams all the time, I was like famous I have even traveled the real world while out of body and have watched people. My grandpa was chess master and bridge master, at ages 23 and 25, and part of the Eagles Club. He did the same thing. He also was a part of The Knights Templar which I am not proud of. Many people can do these things. That's why you hear about it all the time. Because of my clabilities from within dreams I was invited to join The Order. You will not find it on the internet You may not believe me but you believe the fire breathers can breath fire, silence the heavens, and turn water into blood. I have seen the fire breathers (the two witnesses), they have flames taller than trees coming out of their mouths for hours at a time. It is hard to imagine being truly happy without being born into the flesh visible world and also the spirit no visible world. Material and non-material. Jesus was not the only one who could know peoples thoughts ;p It's called clairaudient. Satan and his devils are telepathic, they convince those who are not of very strong in their faith to do evil by whispering them thoughts. Usually geniuses who are becoming aware of the unknown. Becoming too knowledgable of God. They kill and pervert people who are becoming a threat, I am and wills always be on Gods side. Too much information too hard to believe? Or just enough. Heh I try not to lie to my friends to the best of my ability. Some things that I am ashamed of I keep secret, I really should keep the things I am proud of secret. Just waiting on Jesus’ return ;p That should be proof right there, I praise Jesus all day, why would I lie right in front of the one who gave me life then came and taught us these things 2000 years ago, and still teaches people today as the Spirit of Truth? I wouldn't I am God loving and the only thing I fear is God. That makes me sound tough but there's a few things. but like I've even ran up to a pack of wolves thinking they were attacking a girl. I heard a scream and I suppose the girl saw them and ran away by the time I got there and they were eating something else, they ran away. One can certainly do many things in dreams [in the life of the pure spirit] which he cannot in real life. Sometimes the two worlds are confused. So, for example, there is the classical case of a certain Simon who believed that he had achieved spiritualization and (like you) he could fly like a bird. However, when he jumped off a cliff, the law of gravitation took over and he crashed to his death. // I was surprised that you are not proud of an ancestor who was connected with the Templars (the Order of the Soldiers of Christ). After their persecution, the Order of Sion became the guardian of the Ark of the Covenant which the Templars had found in Ethiopia.Nominally at least, the Rosicrucians are the successors of that Order, but I don't know much about them, as to why they would be interested in your out-of-body and other spiritual experiences. Could it be that you could help them to locate the Ark for them? Tell them that by detective investigations, I located it under the Calvary (under the pedestal of the iron Cross in Rennes-le-Chateau), where priest Sauniere hid it after emptying it of its gold ["the treasure of the Templars"].... But this is a long and boaring story which has nothing to do with the nature or attainability of true happiness. Cheers and watch out for the Simon complex. Well the Simon complex sounds foolish. That is for delusional people. None lucid dreamers are more delusional as they do not even realize they are dreaming when a 300 foot tall dragon flys over them within a dream, hence when asleep they cannot differentiate from real and unreal while asleep . Saying the Order of the Soldiers of Christ sounds very nice. I used to think that. I've come across some other notes of Christopher Columbus that gave me another idea of who he was. ” “They … brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things… They willingly traded everything they owned… They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features…. They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane… . They would make fine servants…. With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.” “While I was in the boat I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me, and with whom, having taken her into my cabin, she being naked according to their custom, I conceived desire to take pleasure. I wanted to put my desire into execution but she did not want it and treated me with her finger nails in such a manner that I wished I had never begun. But seeing that (to tell you the end of it all), I took a rope and thrashed her well, for which she raised such unheard of screams that you would not have believed your ears. Finally we came to an agreement in such manner that I can tell you that she seemed to have been brought up in a school of harlots.” ” After a multitude of complaints against Columbus about his mismanagement of the island of Hispaniola, a royal commissioner arrested Columbus in 1500 and brought him back to Spain in chains. Though he was stripped of his governor title, he was pardoned by King Ferdinand, who then subsidized a fourth voyage. So I do not like that The Knights of Columbus is named after him. Columbus's voyages Christopher Columbus came to the New World for King (well, also Queen), honor and God. His ships brought many priests to accomplish God's work. Both his own writings and those of Bartolomé de las Casas mention the thousands of murders done in the name of God, against a people who chose not to convert. Upon discovering the New World, Christopher Columbus... Back then I admit things were different. Like Germans and Jews. Black slavery. Knights of Columbus and Masons did not like each other. Germans no longer hate Jews, Black slavery is over, and ever since Masons needed a white horse for one of their marches, and a Knights of Columbus lead their march, they're friendly now, it was in the newspaper and everything. Masons also have a shady past, though. Johm Quincy Adams, warns of the dire threat to the nation posed by the Masonic Lodges: “I do conscientiously and sincerely believe that the Order of Freemasonry, if not the greatest, is one of the greatest moral and political evils under which the Union is now laboring.” 95% of Masons do not know the direction of Masonry. Albert Pike. “We must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree of whom we shall select. With regard to our brothers in Masonry, these men must be pledges to the strictest secrecy. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international center, the more powerful because its direction will be unknown.” This ultra-secret organization is called The New and Reformed Paladian Rite. (This is why about 95% of the men involved in Masonry don't have a clue as to what the objectives of the organization actually are. They are under the delusion that it's just a fine community organization doing good works.) ....The direction of Freemasonry is revealed thru Albert Pike “To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.” As to why they were interested in me. I was able to do things others are not ;p For assuredly you would know people actually do achieve these capabilities that are rumoured? There are 7 billion people. You do not know all that is possible, trust me Do you not think Angels and Devils do not have powers? It's scripture we can achieve spirit, but not like an angel. According to the bible God can cause EARTHQUAKES. What makes you think people can't have a little bit of magic? There are magicians in the bible, and sorcery is prohibited. Only one bible translation I know prohibits magic practitioning. The other ten prohibit sorcery (magic used for evil.) You may not be Christian, or a believer of the word, I'm unsure. But if you were you may not really believe it. In a less advanced society, people had magic, I suppose everyone in a more advanced society suddenly does not. I guess they magically all died. Sound strange? Anyone who becomes thoroughly involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that there is a spirit made manifest in the laws of nature. Albert Einstein. I say this because those who study consciousness and matter realize the interconnectedness that if we can learn to control our electromagnetic field, we change the magnetism of objects around us, if we raise our electrical output, we increase the amount of magnetism. Our influence on our surroundings. I don't think I can make it any more real than that haha. Everything is electromagnetic. Sorry if I have mistaken your doubt in me. I'm not even sure how they even found out about me ;p I was invited one day to join The Order, the same day two Masons came to my house. Which has never happened before. The two that came to my house were essentially Protestant, and said if I wanted to join to ask them. The other was more based on what I knew by the sounds of it. They both wanted me XD
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Post by joustos on Apr 23, 2018 18:16:14 GMT
just10sp: To clarify a point. the people known as the Templars were organized (in France) as the "Ordo Militum Christi" (the Order of the Soldiers or Knights of Christ). Their name was changed several times in the course of history, including "Freemasons",but they have nothing to do with "The Knight s of Columbus" (an American organization), even though Columbus may have been a descendant of Freemasons. What you call the Masonic religion is not the religion of the original Templars (strictly Catholic), but the Templars were accused of spitting on the Cross and of worshipping the Devil, so the Pope approved the French king's request to persecute them and expropriate them of their lands [southern France]!!! //The Spanish military people got rid of Columbus as the Administrator of the newly found lands by accusing him of the murder of natives which they themselves had committed. (When he, a non-Spaniard, prosecuted some Spanish military people of raping and stealing, he could no longer be tolerated and ended up in a Spanish jail until he died.)
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Post by just10sp on Apr 23, 2018 19:13:23 GMT
just10sp: To clarify a point. the people known as the Templars were organized (in France) as the "Ordo Militum Christi" (the Order of the Soldiers or Knights of Christ). Their name was changed several times in the course of history, including "Freemasons",but they have nothing to do with "The Knight s of Columbus" (an American organization), even though Columbus may have been a descendant of Freemasons. What you call the Masonic religion is not the religion of the original Templars (strictly Catholic), but the Templars were accused of spitting on the Cross and of worshipping the Devil, so the Pope approved the French king's request to persecute them and expropriate them of their lands [southern France]!!! //The Spanish military people got rid of Columbus as the Administrator of the newly found lands by accusing him of the murder of natives which they themselves had committed. (When he, a non-Spaniard, prosecuted some Spanish military people of raping and stealing, he could no longer be tolerated and ended up in a Spanish jail until he died.) Thank you very much! I was not aware of that. Yes my grandpa is very fond of being a part of them, his elders were all apart of some group of people. His family consisted of the Chief of Police, the Fire Chief, and the best lawyer in town. I felt a disconnection towards that group because of what I thought I had discovered about them. Thanks for the enlightenment. Very helpful. I took a picture of your post for future reference. I am sorry I get defensive when people question my sanity People either have seen it or they haven't. People who have been revealed to by the Father and those that have not. I tell everyone this stuff regardless of whether it is a thought-provoking chat community or not. I've been labelled by enough people. I know the world is a bad place and yet I am happy. I can't do anything about world poverty and the slaves in China. Very happy but not charmed to the point I do not question the well being of world powers. Generally the strongest is those with most influence, or simply Nuclear Power. I am optimistic in every area but that, so I am quick to put up a wall the second I hear of bad news.
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Post by l3th4l on Apr 26, 2018 9:03:25 GMT
We're talking constant dopamine release. Guess that's only possible with some drugs or genetic modification.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 26, 2018 9:11:11 GMT
We're talking constant dopamine release. Guess that's only possible with some drugs or genetic modification. Or what about happy in the sense of being content with work and life in general? Or same thing you'd say?
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Post by l3th4l on Apr 26, 2018 9:16:33 GMT
That's pretty impractical irl. You have moments when you're happy and others when you're not. When you do achieve a goal, your happiness would still be temporary. And if you've achieved all of your goals, you would be running outta things to do and umm... that'd be quiet depressing in the long term.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Apr 26, 2018 10:35:35 GMT
I will say no, because human nature is suppressed by society, school, and modern work. On top of that there exists so many detracting factors for happiness like dealing with naive, ignorant, stupid people. Dealing with heartbrakes, financial struggles, environmental problems, lack of friends, and I could go on and on. Human instincts are suppressed.
I’ll tell you what we aren’t just meant to get up in the morning, eat, drive to work, work, pay bills, and die. The average individual works more than your average peasant of the middle evil times. So many people are motivated by material iteams so they think that constant work is a fair trade off. But when you are in your death bed you won’t be regretting the hours you didn’t work.
You will be regretting the family activities you missed, the holidays, the parties, the time with friends, the little things, and so on. The things that should be more important. This isn’t to say don’t work, because you should. But so many people have their priorities mixed up. So it’s up to the individual to find a happy medium. You’ll always hear this rhetoric from certain people you need to work and you need to work hard and you need to work long hours and or often. These people are rarely happy individuals and they want you to be as unhappy as they are.
Your employer is your boss. You work on his/her behalf. They own the thing you need to survive (money). People go to school, go to college, get into debt, work hard, just to become king rat, and what king rat means is making yourself more desirable for a higher paying boss.. that's it.. the one fundamental difference is that you get to choose your boss.. but at the end of the day.. you are someone else's slave.
In a way, its similar to prostitution as well.. you sell your time (which comprises your life, so in essence, you sell your life) and labor to someone for an amount of money.. but king rat thinks he made it somewhere because his time is worth more than yours.
You are trapped in virtually the same general area for 8 hours and you can't go anywhere before your shift ends. 8 hours is a long long time that's half of your day or less if you dont include the time you are asleep/tending to basic needs/working out/etc. Work should not last more than 4 hours, and by working 4 hours a day everyone should be able to survive . But In our society it's 40 hours a week or you are homeless unless you have a really good job. And here is the even more ridiculous part...Seventy-eight percent of full-time workers said they live paycheck to paycheck and 78% of households are debt.
This is just one aspect of why I think it would be hard to achieve happiness. It goes far deeper and there are many other factors that have various levels of impact on happiness from small to large depending on the person.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 26, 2018 10:49:33 GMT
AmericanCharm you are right about mornings. I am not meant to wake up in the mornings goodnight
But yes there are other tough things as you said :( what improvements do you suggest?
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Post by AmericanCharm on Apr 26, 2018 11:38:20 GMT
AmericanCharm you are right about mornings. I am not meant to wake up in the mornings But yes there are other tough things as you said :( what improvements do you suggest? There is little I can suggest other than Revolution or new government reform. As far as societal influence on happiness the biased political indoctrination needs to be rid of in educational systems. Public schooling was instituted to indoctrinate us into a culture that submits to authority and discourages critical and free thinking. Instead of teaching people what to think the goal should be to teach people how to think, how to be free thinkers, critical thinkers, and complicated thinkers. Overthrow the current Crony Capitalist structure (we are not under true Capitalism anymore) where ownership and control of production is kept in the hands of single individuals by state enforcement. Where because of these ownership claims, the majority of the value produced by workers is handed over to those with said ownership claims and workers only receive a fraction of the value they create in the form of a wage. They also have no involvement in the running of industry, and all decisions are imposed on them by a top-down authority/hierarchy, giving them zero autonomy or freedom over their work. The ownership should be distributed among all workers involved in an enterprise. So workers receive the majority or full value of their labour as compensation, rather than the majority of it going to whoever owns the means of production. Workers should also be directly involved in the running of enterprise, given them a degree of control over their work rather than simply performing repetitive mechanical motions as ordered by those above. Decrimalize drugs, as Harry Browne said “There are no violent gangs fighting over aspirin territories. There are no violent gangs fighting over whisky territories or computer territories or anything else that's legal. There are only criminal gangs fighting over territories covering drugs, gambling, prostitution, and other victimless crimes. Making a non-violent activity a crime creates a black market, which attracts criminals and gangs, which turns what was once a relatively harmless activity affecting a small group of people into a widespread epidemic of drug use and gang warfare” This criminalization contributes to a domino effect and creates massive crime zones that are dangerous for many. As well as leading to the imprisonment of far too many.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 13:33:20 GMT
I will say no, because human nature is suppressed by society, school, and modern work. On top of that there exists so many detracting factors for happiness like dealing with naive, ignorant, stupid people. Dealing with heartbrakes, financial struggles, environmental problems, lack of friends, and I could go on and on. Human instincts are suppressed. I’ll tell you what we aren’t just meant to get up in the morning, eat, drive to work, work, pay bills, and die. The average individual works more than your average peasant of the middle evil times. So many people are motivated by material iteams so they think that constant work is a fair trade off. But when you are in your death bed you won’t be regretting the hours you didn’t work. You will be regretting the family activities you missed, the holidays, the parties, the time with friends, the little things, and so on. The things that should be more important. This isn’t to say don’t work, because you should. But so many people have their priorities mixed up. So it’s up to the individual to find a happy medium. You’ll always hear this rhetoric from certain people you need to work and you need to work hard and you need to work long hours and or often. These people are rarely happy individuals and they want you to be as unhappy as they are. Your employer is your boss. You work on his/her behalf. They own the thing you need to survive (money). People go to school, go to college, get into debt, work hard, just to become king rat, and what king rat means is making yourself more desirable for a higher paying boss.. that's it.. the one fundamental difference is that you get to choose your boss.. but at the end of the day.. you are someone else's slave. In a way, its similar to prostitution as well.. you sell your time (which comprises your life, so in essence, you sell your life) and labor to someone for an amount of money.. but king rat thinks he made it somewhere because his time is worth more than yours. You are trapped in virtually the same general area for 8 hours and you can't go anywhere before your shift ends. 8 hours is a long long time that's half of your day or less if you dont include the time you are asleep/tending to basic needs/working out/etc. Work should not last more than 4 hours, and by working 4 hours a day everyone should be able to survive . But In our society it's 40 hours a week or you are homeless unless you have a really good job. And here is the even more ridiculous part...Seventy-eight percent of full-time workers said they live paycheck to paycheck and 78% of households are debt. This is just one aspect of why I think it would be hard to achieve happiness. It goes far deeper and there are many other factors that have various levels of impact on happiness from small to large depending on the person. What do you expect? There are too many people in the world, if population on Earth is smaller individuals would be able to bargain better working conditions and salary. Add on top of the that free migratory policy and it all becomes pointless for individuals that aren't wealthy enough
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