How would the world been if the South had won the Civil War?

What is the Confederacy? The South states?

In the American Civil War the southern states seceded from the United States and formed the Confederate States of America.  Then the United States which were the Northern states fought the Confederacy in that war.

Here is a sides map in the Civil War.

That’s a possibility. I don’t think the south would have lasted very long if they did end up winning the war. During the war they didn’t have a navy, the north did and the north used it to blockade their ports. To make it worse, the south didn’t have the means of production that the north had. The south also borrowed money from banks in London with ridiculous interest rates at 24% to 36%, which would have ruined them in the long run if they did win. Lincoln decided to print money from the union treasury instead of borrowing money from existing banks which worked out for the union very well. So yea I think the south would have lost eventually either way.

As a Sicilian-American at that time the South was not fond of my people even though we are white. We were discriminated against in the South. The largest mass lynching in America was when 11 Italians (mostly Sicilians were lynched

In the South, rules were established preventing Italian children from attending certain “white” schools and in some parts of the South, churches and movie houses required that Italians sit away from other whites. There was discrimination against Southern Italians because of our swarthy features and complexions, culture, and religious affiliations. Signs and adds were put up saying Italians and colored people need not apply. Southern Italians were not considered “white” in the South for a solid period of time. Things eventually changed.

Just some particular examples of Italian discrimination

An Italian named Fred Villarosa was forced out of his jail cell and hanged men with masks in Vicksburg, Mississippi on March 28, 1886. They hanged Villarosa to a tree in front of the jail. Villarosa was in jail for allegedly assaulting a young American girl. Proof of the victim's innocence was available, but ignored by Vicksburg authorities. John Elia was lynched in Bienville, Louisiana on December 28, 1886. Tony Cravasso and his brother were lynched in Cumberland Gap, Kentucky in 1889. Unknown assailants gunned down David C. Hennessy on October 15, 1890. Hennessy was the New Orleans Chief of Police. He died the next day. A close friend of his heard Hennessy say that Italians were responsible for the shooting.

After nine Italians were tried and found not guilty of murdering Hennessy, a mob dragged them from the jail, along with two other Italians being held on unrelated charges and lynched them on March 14, 1891. The eleven Italians were Pietro Monasterio, Joseph P. Macheca, Antonio Marchesi, Antonio Scaffidi, Emmanuele Polizzi, Antonio Bagnetto, James Caruso, Rocco Geraci, Frank Romero, Loretto Comitz and Charles Traina. Right after the lynching, thousands of Italians were beaten in the streets of U.S. cities. Many politicians defended the men who lynched these Italians and Theodore Roosevelt was one of them. John M. Parker helped organize the lynch mob and became the governor of Louisiana in 1911. A vicious mob attacked a group of Italian workers and killed three of them in West Virginia on May 11, 1891.


White Southerns lynched an Italian named Louis Laferdetta in Boone, Kentucky on July 17, 1894. About eight months later, some Italian miners were attacked and lynched in Walsenburg, Colorado. The Italian miners were Lorenzo Andinino, Stanislao Vittone and Francesco Ronchietto.

Some Italian prisoners were lynched in Hahnville, Louisiana in 1896. The Italians were accused of murdering white natives, despite lack of evidence to support the charge. The victims were Salvatore Arena, Lorenzo Salardino and Giuseppe Venturella. Three Italian shopkeepers and two other Italians were lynched in Tallulah, Louisiana in 1899. Some people thought that a fight between one of the shopkeepers and a local doctor was the reason that they were lynched, but the fact that the shopkeepers treated blacks and whites equally was the real reason why local Southerners lynched them. John Gambola was lynched in Hackensack, New Jersey in 1900.

Italians were attacked by an armed mob in Erwin, Mississippi on July 11, 1901. Giovanni Serio and his son Vincenzo were killed as a result. And their friend Salvatore Liberto was wounded. A month later, an Italian immigrant named Giuseppe Buzzotta was beaten to death by a group of angry Southerners in Ashdown, Arkansas. Four Italian immigrants who ran a successful dry goods business were driven from the community by a mob of local white citizens in Marksville, Louisiana in November 1901. Two Italian men were lynched in Davis, West Virginia in 1903. Two Italian laborers were shot to death in West Virginia in 1906. The laborers were Dominick Masuleo and Frank Lepor. That same year, two Italians were lynched in Marion, North Carolina.

Some Klansmen shot and seriously wounded two Italian-Americans on April 4, 1924. Six Italian prisoners were hanged in Amite, Louisiana on May 9, 1924. Seventeen days later, President Calvin Coolidge signed the Immigration Act of 1924, also known as the Johnson-Reed Act. The law was aimed at restricting the influx of Southern and Eastern Europeans, especially Jews who were escaping persecution in Poland and Russia. Despite worldwide demonstrations in support of their innocence, Italian-born anarchists Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti were executed on August 23, 1927.

Beyond this I do not like Southern culture at all.

I don’t believe in keeping unlike things together. America probably should be divided in specific sub regions, Balkanizing it. Problem for me is many Yankees including Italian Americans lean right wing and we are concentrated up North in Yankeedom and New Neatherland territory. So if it was Balkanized right wing Yankees and the right wing Italians would be either stuck in a regressive leftist section or we would be forced into the far right South. Where culturally we would be uncomfortable.

I completely agree with this. I'm all for the federal government of the United States being dissolved and for the States to form their own governments. When the United States was first formed, it was formed between 13 sovereign states each with its own culture and identity. The Puritanical culture of Massachusetts and the rest of New England which survives in an altered form today in Yankeedom (the Colin Woodard definition of Yankeedom, I think think that the evidence genetic, linguistic, political and otherwise have proven Woodard's theory correct) differed immensely from the aristocratic, conservative, West Indies style slave society of South Carolina. I think that the states should be given back their sovereignty.