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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 22, 2018 8:56:31 GMT
For or against! Why ?!
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 22, 2018 14:19:09 GMT
I am for nationalism as any sane country puts its people and its nation first. As long as minorities are not oppressed nationalism is the sanest ideology in whatever form it takes civic, cultural, ethnic. Fascism on the other hand is totalitarian and anti freedom and I am rabidly against it.
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 22, 2018 19:49:27 GMT
I like the nothing option . I will choose that since not into politics xD
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 19:49:55 GMT
I believe that our current democracy that we have now is very... inefficient. It should go back to the way it was, at the Founding of America. Land-Owning white males. Nothing against women or retards but women tend to be less informed than men, as a whole and if you have retards voting then that just fucks everything up. I respect fascism for it's dedication to it's people and nation as a whole by preserving and embracing tradition but I love my guns and freedom of speech. The thing is I'm for going a Pinochet route and giving commies and pagan NatSocs rides in helicopters and throwing them out. But Ethnic Nationalism is the way to go tbh, it's the only way to preserve society. If it has to come with fascism, then so be it.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 22, 2018 22:24:15 GMT
@cornbread Democracy is now completely ineffective! I already wrote here that democracy today is a free choice between yesterday's milk or kefir! Clovis Merovingian Many Americans have their own view about American nationalism! How does this work for you? For some, this includes the equality of all races living in America, and for some, antagonism between white and black! Who is a real American? All US citizens (even in the first generation) or hereditary?
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Post by Onetrack on Mar 23, 2018 0:53:17 GMT
Nationalism.
Country and its peoples culture first Migration only if people are escaping war or if for economic reasons if they're qualified people who will better the host country.
If people come, and they hate the country, languages, laws and flag - they should quickly leave.
Unfortunately, people tend to enclave, bring in their own religions, not abide by laws, no integration.
The host countries bend over backwards trying to accomodate them, PC culture is what is destroying the west currently - if you're coming to integrate and leave what you're fleeing behind, then by all means come. If you have verifiable qualifications that will help fill a shortage in the country, then please - I'll be the first to open the gate for you.
If you're like these clowns, kindly f off. I am sick of ' cultural misunderstandings ' .. they know exactly what they're doing and what they're able to get away with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 0:57:29 GMT
Nationalism. Country and its peoples culture first Migration only if people are escaping war or if for economic reasons if they're qualified people who will better the host country. If people come, and they hate the country, languages, laws and flag - they should quickly leave. Unfortunately, people tend to enclave, bring in their own religions, not abide by laws, no integration. The host countries bend over backwards trying to accomodate them, PC culture is what is destroying the west currently - if you're coming to integrate and leave what you're fleeing behind, then by all means come. If you have verifiable qualifications that will help fill a shortage in the country, then please - I'll be the first to open the gate for you. If you're like these clowns, kindly f off. I am sick of ' cultural misunderstandings ' .. they know exactly what they're doing and what they're able to get away with. If this was happening in the South, we would have been done killed 'em. Cuck Island is fucked.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 23, 2018 1:37:50 GMT
@cornbread Democracy is now completely ineffective! I already wrote here that democracy today is a free choice between yesterday's milk or kefir! Clovis Merovingian Many Americans have their own view about American nationalism! How does this work for you? For some, this includes the equality of all races living in America, and for some, antagonism between white and black! Who is a real American? All US citizens (even in the first generation) or hereditary? In America we used to have this idea called the Melting Pot which in practice meant assimilating foreigners to our culture. The idea was that anybody could indeed become an American but they had to speak our language, adopt our values, and renounce loyalties to and the customs of their mother country and become indistinguishable from us. That is why you have Americans of Irish, Italian, German, Russian, Scandinavian, and every non anglo saxon European group imaginable but they are for all intent and purposes indistinguishable from old stock Americans. Our school systems, our cultural institutions, and our social pressures and prejudices were all geared toward making foreigners American. However this idea seems to have been thrown out the window regarding the recent Mexican immigration where we're allowing them to keep their language, their backward culture which has turned their homeland into a hellhole, and their identity. Now the political left is pushing he cultivation of every identity but American. People are identifying first as black, Mexican, Native American, muslim, gay, transgender, female and what have you and most disturbingly of all are identifying this way in opposition to white males in America. Our civic and cultural identity is breaking along racial lines with Brown people going against the soon to be no longer white majority. This could conceivably turn into a horrible blood bath in the future. To answer your question Diamond, I'd like the Melting Pot back but I don't know if that's doable.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 23, 2018 8:33:23 GMT
Our school systems in America leaves much to be desired!
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 23, 2018 12:30:43 GMT
Mexican!? What about the American Chinese?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 12:36:55 GMT
@cornbread Democracy is now completely ineffective! I already wrote here that democracy today is a free choice between yesterday's milk or kefir! Clovis Merovingian Many Americans have their own view about American nationalism! How does this work for you? For some, this includes the equality of all races living in America, and for some, antagonism between white and black! Who is a real American? All US citizens (even in the first generation) or hereditary? In America we used to have this idea called the Melting Pot which in practice meant assimilating foreigners to our culture. The idea was that anybody could indeed become an American but they had to speak our language, adopt our values, and renounce loyalties to and the customs of their mother country and become indistinguishable from us. That is why you have Americans of Irish, Italian, German, Russian, Scandinavian, and every non anglo saxon European group imaginable but they are for all intent and purposes indistinguishable from old stock Americans. Our school systems, our cultural institutions, and our social pressures and prejudices were all geared toward making foreigners American. However this idea seems to have been thrown out the window regarding the recent Mexican immigration where we're allowing them to keep their language, their backward culture which has turned their homeland into a hellhole, and their identity. Now the political left is pushing he cultivation of every identity but American. People are identifying first as black, Mexican, Native American, muslim, gay, transgender, female and what have you and most disturbingly of all are identifying this way in opposition to white males in America. Our civic and cultural identity is breaking along racial lines with Brown people going against the soon to be no longer white majority. This could conceivably turn into a horrible blood bath in the future. To answer your question Diamond, I'd like the Melting Pot back but I don't know if that's doable. Sounds like Yugoslavia to me. It eventually destroyed the country.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 23, 2018 12:50:38 GMT
unknown are you hinting at a bad fate? does it smell of globalism and leftist ideas for you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 13:13:53 GMT
unknown are you hinting at a bad fate? does it smell of globalism and leftist ideas for you? In my case it doesn't have to do with globalism. I am xenophobe, so I don't like other cultures Shrug Also there is a limit to which oppression is effective, push it too strong and you're unleashing hell.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Mar 23, 2018 13:39:38 GMT
unknown are you hinting at a bad fate? does it smell of globalism and leftist ideas for you? In my case it doesn't have to do with globalism. I am xenophobe, so I don't like other cultures Also there is a limit to which oppression is effective, push it too strong and you're unleashing hell. Its not oppression its an expectation of common decency on the part of the immigrants. When you come in to a man's house and make it your permanent residence you do things his way; you don't have sex with twelve year olds like they do in Mexico, you follow our laws and our customs and respect the values and beliefs of the founders, you speak freaking English. Anything else is just rude. If immigrants want to keep their culture, language, values, and identity they should stay in their own country. Whats the point of moving here in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 13:46:46 GMT
In my case it doesn't have to do with globalism. I am xenophobe, so I don't like other cultures Also there is a limit to which oppression is effective, push it too strong and you're unleashing hell. Its not oppression its an expectation of common decency on the part of the immigrants. When you come in to a man's house and make it your permanent residence you do things his way; you don't have sex with twelve year olds like they do in Mexico, you follow our laws and our customs and respect the values and beliefs of the founders, you speak freaking English. Anything else is just rude. If immigrants want to keep their culture, language, values, and identity they should stay in their own country. Whats the point of moving here in the first place? That's really simple question, but first thing first. When I come to somebody's house to settle for good, I want and expect the other person to leave or else I'll kick him out of there. The point is to make myself life easier by taking away of everything that somebody owns. If you think about it its quite usual way how things work in nature. Stronger predator wins.
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