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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 10:31:50 GMT
Heavy islamic immagration has caused a large amount of problems through europe however bringing up these problems leads politically correct leftists to labeling you as a "racist islamaphobe". this is done to avoid any conversation as when those under the religion of political correctness hear something they dont like they attempt to make you personaly out to be immoral. unfortunetly this leads to the missing out of vital conversations in which we must have.
below i will list some statistics about muslims in europe and leave you to form your own opinion. my question however is this: when will the left see these dangers, when will they stop screaming "racism" in the face of a huge probem?
1 in 3 muslim in the uk believe a husbands wife should be forced to obey her husbands biddings. (civitas 2009)
51% of british muslims believe a muslim woman may only marry another muslim.
51% of british muslims believe a woman cannot marry without a guardian's consent.
52% of british muslims believe a muslim man may have up to 4 wives.
31% of british muslims believe polygamy is acceptable.
Only 18% believe that homosexuality should remain legal, a shockingly low number.
2 in 3 british muslims would not report a terror crime to the police.
In austria 73% of muslims believe islamic law is more important than secular laws.
1 in 4 british muslims say that the 7/7 bombings were justified
45% of muslims in the uk think that 911 was a american conspiracy.
25% of young muslims believe that terror attacks are justified (populus poll 2006)
27% of british muslims believe that “jews are a legitimate target”.
35% of young british muslims believe that suicide bombings are justified.
1 in 4 young british muslims says they sympathise with those who fight for isis
40% of british muslims support the introduction of sharia (pew research centre 2013)
44% believe that schools should be able to force girls to wear traditional islamic dresses.
According to a british member of parliament in birmingham there are twice as many british muslims fighting for isis than there is fighting for the british army.
1 in 3 british muslims strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obay their husbands biddings.
1 in 3 muslim students favour killing in the name of islam
58% of british muslims believe that insulting islam should result in a criminal prosecution
28% of british muslims hope that the uk will become a fundamentalist islamic state
Muslims were found to have the highest disability rates, 24% of men and 21% of women claim they have a disability that prevents them from finding a job. This due to inbreeding within islam.
Only 7% of british muslims see themselves as “british first” while 80% see themself as muslim first.
In Sweeden Muslims make up 2% of the population yet they commit 78% of the rapes, leading to sweeden becoming the rape captial of europe
In the Uk muslims make up 5% of the population yet they commit 20% of the crimes. (I got all the statististics from a book called "How to debate the left on islam").
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 2, 2018 10:37:06 GMT
They seem so brutal. Not just to people outside their religion but even to those inside their religion. They're basically rapists and killers among other things it seems :(
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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 10:42:02 GMT
Yeh its pretty brutal, the sjw types are very caught up in bringing rights for minorities that they forget the minorities inside the minorites (such as the islamic women who get an arranged marrage and are then raped by their husband, as well as the gay people who are stoned and thrown off roofs).
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Post by AmericanCharm on Feb 2, 2018 10:59:03 GMT
Yeh its pretty brutal, the sjw types are very caught up in bringing rights for minorities that they forget the minorities inside the minorites (such as the islamic women who get an arranged marrage and are then raped by their husband, as well as the gay people who are stoned and thrown off roofs). White civilizations are least oppressive, most free the world has ever known. Slavery for instance exist to this very day throughout the Middle East, Africa, and much of Asia. Women’s rights, personal freedoms, homosexual rights, are all strongest in white countries. Protection of minorities as a special class, all strongest in white countries. All sorts of nations have thrived off slavery and treating the poor less than ideal. History shows it goes beyond race and into an issue of class. But not many people have built big successful societies without some sort of oppression in some point in their history.
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Post by Polaris on Feb 2, 2018 11:16:17 GMT
i don't know what Muslims in Europe do, but Islam is the religion of peace. whatever Muslims claim or believe, Islam does not call for forcing Islamic teachings on non-Muslims. Islam is a set of beliefs either you take it all or you leave it all. but the Quran says in some many places that people are free to choose their faith and they should be allowed to practice the religion they choose if they live in a Muslim community.
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Post by azimovclegane87 on Feb 2, 2018 11:23:09 GMT
All Avraamic religions (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) is peacefull, in their natures. Mostly, people who translate their vain and evil beliefs into practice is good examples of how this traditions can be corrupt (early Christianity - to age of dogma and Crusades). But i believe most people, who have faith in God, are mostly good and moral - but bad minority (also, posers) is give religion of peace abominable image.
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Post by Polaris on Feb 2, 2018 11:25:46 GMT
if you talk about terrorism, the most horrible massacres in the world were not committed by Muslims, that or the Romans, and Latins, world wars, Heroshima, the Jews in Palestine, sabra and shatella , etc. see the 25 worst massacres in the history of the world. were they committed by Muslims? list25.com/25-most-horrific-massacres-in-history/
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Post by AmericanCharm on Feb 2, 2018 11:29:08 GMT
i don't know what Muslims in Europe do, but Islam is the religion of peace. whatever Muslims claim or believe, Islam does not call for forcing Islamic teachings on non-Muslims. Islam is a set of beliefs either you take it all or you leave it all. but the Quran says in some many places that people are free to choose their faith and they should be allowed to practice the religion they choose if they live in a Muslim community. No it is not. Islamism, often referred to as “political Islam,” is the desire to impose a version of Islam on the rest of society. Political Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood, generally do not believe in resorting to violence, though there are different attitudes even among Brotherhood franchises toward democratic participation, ranging from post-Islamists like the Ennadha Party in Tunisia, to semi-authoritarian conservatives, like South Asia’s Jamat-e-Islami. “Jihadism,” on the other hand, is the use of force to spread Islamism. Political Islam is an offshoot of religious Islam and draws much of its inspiration from the Quran and the hadith (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad). To be sure, it does not represent the faith in all its forms, but unless challenged, the underlying problems of religious literalism, dogmatism, and pious intolerance are left untreated and continue to spread. A poll in 2014, published in the Saudi-owned newspaper al-Hayat, found that 92 percent of Saudis believed that ISIS “conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law.” Clearly, ISIS has/had something to do with Islam. That something is borne of a literalist reading of specific texts within the canon, a reading that many Saudi-based Salafists (a literalist movement that forms state-sanctioned Islam in Saudi Arabia) and ISIS share. Put muslims in proximity to any other religion and soon they start killing the people following the other religions. It's happening in Europe with muslims killing Christians. It's happening in Kashmir with muslims killing Hindus. It's happening in Israel with muslims killing Jews. Remove everybody from the proximity of muslims who are not muslim and soon the muslims start killing each other. It's happening all over the middle east with Sunnis and Shias killing each other. Separate the Sunnis from the Shias and soon each resort to killing their own. That's happening all over the muslim world as fathers/brothers/sons kill their mothers/sisters/daughters via honor killings.
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Post by Polaris on Feb 2, 2018 11:30:07 GMT
i am not here to defend Muslims because i know they are like other human beings you can find the good and the bad among them, i am against that whatever a Muslim does is attributed to the religion of Islam. Islam is a continuation of the prophethood of Judaism and christianity, and in Islam if you do not hold that Jesus is the messenger of God and Moses is the messenger of God you are not Muslim because in Islam they are equally important as Muhammed (PBUH)
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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 11:33:40 GMT
i don't know what Muslims in Europe do, but Islam is the religion of peace. whatever Muslims claim or believe, Islam does not call for forcing Islamic teachings on non-Muslims. Islam is a set of beliefs either you take it all or you leave it all. but the Quran says in some many places that people are free to choose their faith and they should be allowed to practice the religion they choose if they live in a Muslim community. sorry but how can you say that islam is the religion of peace after reading those statistics? and as for you saying "islam does not call for forcing of islamic teachings", i will leave you some quotes from islamic holy books. He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost. Lord...Give us victory over the unbelievers. Quran 2:286, "The Cow," Dawood, p. 46 "Lord...give us victory over the unbelievers." Quran 3:148, "The Imrans," Dawood, p. 67 I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage. Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.
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Post by Polaris on Feb 2, 2018 11:33:42 GMT
i don't know what Muslims in Europe do, but Islam is the religion of peace. whatever Muslims claim or believe, Islam does not call for forcing Islamic teachings on non-Muslims. Islam is a set of beliefs either you take it all or you leave it all. but the Quran says in some many places that people are free to choose their faith and they should be allowed to practice the religion they choose if they live in a Muslim community. No it is not. Islamism, often referred to as “political Islam,” is the desire to impose a version of Islam on the rest of society. Political Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood, generally do not believe in resorting to violence, though there are different attitudes even among Brotherhood franchises toward democratic participation, ranging from post-Islamists like the Ennadha Party in Tunisia, to semi-authoritarian conservatives, like South Asia’s Jamat-e-Islami. “Jihadism,” on the other hand, is the use of force to spread Islamism. Political Islam is an offshoot of religious Islam and draws much of its inspiration from the Quran and the hadith (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad). To be sure, it does not represent the faith in all its forms, but unless challenged, the underlying problems of religious literalism, dogmatism, and pious intolerance are left untreated and continue to spread. A poll in 2014, published in the Saudi-owned newspaper al-Hayat, found that 92 percent of Saudis believed that ISIS “conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law.” Clearly, ISIS has/had something to do with Islam. That something is borne of a literalist reading of specific texts within the canon, a reading that many Saudi-based Salafists (a literalist movement that forms state-sanctioned Islam in Saudi Arabia) and ISIS share. Put muslims in proximity to any other religion and soon they start killing the people following the other religions. It's happening in Europe with muslims killing Christians. It's happening in Kashmir with muslims killing Hindus. It's happening in Israel with muslims killing Jews. Remove everybody from the proximity of muslims who are not muslim and soon the muslims start killing each other. It's happening all over the middle east with Sunnis and Shias killing each other. Separate the Sunnis from the Shias and soon each resort to killing their own. That's happening all over the muslim world as fathers/brothers/sons kill their mothers/sisters/daughters via honor killings. those who kill their family members do not represent Islam. extremest are found in every community. isn't it happening all the time in America that a teenager shoots his parents or may be worse?
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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 11:41:35 GMT
All Avraamic religions (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) is peacefull, in their natures. Mostly, people who translate their vain and evil beliefs into practice is good examples of how this traditions can be corrupt (early Christianity - to age of dogma and Crusades). But i believe most people, who have faith in God, are mostly good and moral - but bad minority (also, posers) is give religion of peace abominable image. The reason christianity and judaism is peacefull today is because of the european enlightenment that lead to a reform in christianity. the 67 books in the bible do contradict themselves and can have very different morals. under modern christianity people reformed the religion while using the peacefull sections of the bible. as for islam, there are 3 holy books in total all with the same message, meaning that there is only one interpratation of islam and that there is no space for reform as there was for christianity. also you say that the muslims who are extremists are a minority within islam, however i disagree. the bar for what people consider to be extreme is set very high, the reality is that many jihadists are considered moderate muslims by the west despite there extreme views. There are 1.8 billion muslims in the world of these 1.62 billion believe a “wife should obey the husband”. 1.39 billion believe “sharia should rule”. 1.1 billion believe “death for adultery”. 748 million believe in death for leaving islam. these statistics should show you that the vast majority of muslims are far from peacefull and are infact dangerous and oppressive.
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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 11:47:51 GMT
Yeh its pretty brutal, the sjw types are very caught up in bringing rights for minorities that they forget the minorities inside the minorites (such as the islamic women who get an arranged marrage and are then raped by their husband, as well as the gay people who are stoned and thrown off roofs). White civilizations are least oppressive, most free the world has ever known. Slavery for instance exist to this very day throughout the Middle East, Africa, and much of Asia. Women’s rights, personal freedoms, homosexual rights, are all strongest in white countries. Protection of minorities as a special class, all strongest in white countries. All sorts of nations have thrived off slavery and treating the poor less than ideal. History shows it goes beyond race and into an issue of class. But not many people have built big successful societies without some sort of oppression in some point in their history. i agree, and i think that islam is not compatable in our free society meaning that they should not be able to immagrate and ruin what our forefathers created.
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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 11:50:51 GMT
No it is not. Islamism, often referred to as “political Islam,” is the desire to impose a version of Islam on the rest of society. Political Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood, generally do not believe in resorting to violence, though there are different attitudes even among Brotherhood franchises toward democratic participation, ranging from post-Islamists like the Ennadha Party in Tunisia, to semi-authoritarian conservatives, like South Asia’s Jamat-e-Islami. “Jihadism,” on the other hand, is the use of force to spread Islamism. Political Islam is an offshoot of religious Islam and draws much of its inspiration from the Quran and the hadith (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad). To be sure, it does not represent the faith in all its forms, but unless challenged, the underlying problems of religious literalism, dogmatism, and pious intolerance are left untreated and continue to spread. A poll in 2014, published in the Saudi-owned newspaper al-Hayat, found that 92 percent of Saudis believed that ISIS “conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law.” Clearly, ISIS has/had something to do with Islam. That something is borne of a literalist reading of specific texts within the canon, a reading that many Saudi-based Salafists (a literalist movement that forms state-sanctioned Islam in Saudi Arabia) and ISIS share. Put muslims in proximity to any other religion and soon they start killing the people following the other religions. It's happening in Europe with muslims killing Christians. It's happening in Kashmir with muslims killing Hindus. It's happening in Israel with muslims killing Jews. Remove everybody from the proximity of muslims who are not muslim and soon the muslims start killing each other. It's happening all over the middle east with Sunnis and Shias killing each other. Separate the Sunnis from the Shias and soon each resort to killing their own. That's happening all over the muslim world as fathers/brothers/sons kill their mothers/sisters/daughters via honor killings. those who kill their family members do not represent Islam. extremest are found in every community. isn't it happening all the time in America that a teenager shoots his parents or may be worse? A mentally ill child killing his family is no comparison to mass killing and gang rapes as seen in europe in the same of islam. i seriously thing you need to question your current view on islam as it is ignorant towards what statistics show. if we do not learn from our history we do not learn at all.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Feb 2, 2018 11:50:54 GMT
No it is not. Islamism, often referred to as “political Islam,” is the desire to impose a version of Islam on the rest of society. Political Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood, generally do not believe in resorting to violence, though there are different attitudes even among Brotherhood franchises toward democratic participation, ranging from post-Islamists like the Ennadha Party in Tunisia, to semi-authoritarian conservatives, like South Asia’s Jamat-e-Islami. “Jihadism,” on the other hand, is the use of force to spread Islamism. Political Islam is an offshoot of religious Islam and draws much of its inspiration from the Quran and the hadith (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad). To be sure, it does not represent the faith in all its forms, but unless challenged, the underlying problems of religious literalism, dogmatism, and pious intolerance are left untreated and continue to spread. A poll in 2014, published in the Saudi-owned newspaper al-Hayat, found that 92 percent of Saudis believed that ISIS “conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law.” Clearly, ISIS has/had something to do with Islam. That something is borne of a literalist reading of specific texts within the canon, a reading that many Saudi-based Salafists (a literalist movement that forms state-sanctioned Islam in Saudi Arabia) and ISIS share. Put muslims in proximity to any other religion and soon they start killing the people following the other religions. It's happening in Europe with muslims killing Christians. It's happening in Kashmir with muslims killing Hindus. It's happening in Israel with muslims killing Jews. Remove everybody from the proximity of muslims who are not muslim and soon the muslims start killing each other. It's happening all over the middle east with Sunnis and Shias killing each other. Separate the Sunnis from the Shias and soon each resort to killing their own. That's happening all over the muslim world as fathers/brothers/sons kill their mothers/sisters/daughters via honor killings. those who kill their family members do not represent Islam. extremest are found in every community. isn't it happening all the time in America that a teenager shoots his parents or may be worse? Moderate Muslims are still often terrorist sympathizers, and believe things like OP posted and worse. Islam is incompatible with western civilization. Teens you discribed do not turn up on a regular basis. The muslims kill in the NAME of their religion, FOR their religion, to kill the infidels who are not of their religion. It's the only religion which actually tells it's people it's justifiable to kill others in the name or religion and in practice, the only religion who the member actually are out killing in the name or religion Its a death cult founded by pedophile, slave owner and war monger. Those that say things like "Islam is a good, peaceful religion, Muslims don't hurt anyone, these people weren't really Muslim," are either lying to hide the ugly truth about Islam or a ignorant about Islam. Islam teaches hate, intolerance and violence towards non Muslims
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