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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 10:31:50 GMT
Heavy islamic immagration has caused a large amount of problems through europe however bringing up these problems leads politically correct leftists to labeling you as a "racist islamaphobe". this is done to avoid any conversation as when those under the religion of political correctness hear something they dont like they attempt to make you personaly out to be immoral. unfortunetly this leads to the missing out of vital conversations in which we must have.
below i will list some statistics about muslims in europe and leave you to form your own opinion. my question however is this: when will the left see these dangers, when will they stop screaming "racism" in the face of a huge probem?
1 in 3 muslim in the uk believe a husbands wife should be forced to obey her husbands biddings. (civitas 2009)
51% of british muslims believe a muslim woman may only marry another muslim.
51% of british muslims believe a woman cannot marry without a guardian's consent.
52% of british muslims believe a muslim man may have up to 4 wives.
31% of british muslims believe polygamy is acceptable.
Only 18% believe that homosexuality should remain legal, a shockingly low number.
2 in 3 british muslims would not report a terror crime to the police.
In austria 73% of muslims believe islamic law is more important than secular laws.
1 in 4 british muslims say that the 7/7 bombings were justified
45% of muslims in the uk think that 911 was a american conspiracy.
25% of young muslims believe that terror attacks are justified (populus poll 2006)
27% of british muslims believe that “jews are a legitimate target”.
35% of young british muslims believe that suicide bombings are justified.
1 in 4 young british muslims says they sympathise with those who fight for isis
40% of british muslims support the introduction of sharia (pew research centre 2013)
44% believe that schools should be able to force girls to wear traditional islamic dresses.
According to a british member of parliament in birmingham there are twice as many british muslims fighting for isis than there is fighting for the british army.
1 in 3 british muslims strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obay their husbands biddings.
1 in 3 muslim students favour killing in the name of islam
58% of british muslims believe that insulting islam should result in a criminal prosecution
28% of british muslims hope that the uk will become a fundamentalist islamic state
Muslims were found to have the highest disability rates, 24% of men and 21% of women claim they have a disability that prevents them from finding a job. This due to inbreeding within islam.
Only 7% of british muslims see themselves as “british first” while 80% see themself as muslim first.
In Sweeden Muslims make up 2% of the population yet they commit 78% of the rapes, leading to sweeden becoming the rape captial of europe
In the Uk muslims make up 5% of the population yet they commit 20% of the crimes. (I got all the statististics from a book called "How to debate the left on islam").
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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 16:38:33 GMT
What an amusing exchange. how so.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Feb 2, 2018 17:20:44 GMT
Truthfulness of these statistics may be a separate topic! I can say that people in Europe are concerned about crimes committed by migrants from Islamic countries, as well as modern Islamic terrorism.(ISIS) But this is not the reason to blame all Muslims for this! Many Muslims have become victims of these terrorists, and some of them are battling against them! For example, Assad and the Kurds!
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Post by CapitalistCuck on Feb 2, 2018 17:26:07 GMT
Truthfulness of these statistics may be a separate topic! I can say that people in Europe are concerned about crimes committed by migrants from Islamic countries, as well as modern Islamic terrorism.(ISIS) But this is not the reason to blame all Muslims for this! Many Muslims have become victims of these terrorists, and some of them are battling against them! For example, Assad and the Kurds! yes many muslims are against isis, however that is mostly to do with the fact that isis attacks alot of non muslims as well as muslims (this is not permitted in the quaran).
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Post by ajay0 on Feb 2, 2018 17:59:36 GMT
A redeeming element of Islam in the eyes of the leftists is its intrinsic teachings of the equality and brotherhood of all men regardless of race, religion, nationality, financial status,lineage and so on, along with their provisioning for the poor through Zakat, which is something of a socialist model. A muslim king or emperor will perform salat with a common man in the mosque due to the injunction of all men being equal before God.
This utter emphasis on equality and brotherhood is absent in other religions such as Christianity,Judaism, where race-centric and class divisions persist and which is one of the reasons for the large number of converts to Islam. In Hinduism the same goes for the lower castes who converted en masse to Islam, to escape inequality and discrimination.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 18:28:05 GMT
A redeeming element of Islam in the eyes of the leftists is its intrinsic teachings of the equality and brotherhood of all men regardless of race, religion, nationality, financial status,lineage and so on, along with their provisioning for the poor through Zakat, which is something of a socialist model. A muslim king or emperor will perform salat with a common man in the mosque due to the injunction of all men being equal before God. This utter emphasis on equality and brotherhood is absent in other religions such as Christianity,Judaism, where race-centric and class divisions persist and which is one of the reasons for the large number of converts to Islam. In Hinduism the same goes for the lower castes who converted en masse to Islam, to escape inequality and discrimination. Multiculturalism... Yuck... It sickens me.
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Post by ajay0 on Feb 2, 2018 18:43:57 GMT
It is not multicultural but comes under the purview of Islamic society. I put 'religion' there by mistake but muslims are known to extend a generous hand to nonmuslims as well addressing them as brothers. Perhaps by force of habit.
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Post by ajay0 on Feb 2, 2018 18:57:28 GMT
A redeeming element of Islam in the eyes of the leftists is its intrinsic teachings of the equality and brotherhood of all men regardless of race, religion, nationality, financial status,lineage and so on, along with their provisioning for the poor through Zakat, which is something of a socialist model. A muslim king or emperor will perform salat with a common man in the mosque due to the injunction of all men being equal before God. This utter emphasis on equality and brotherhood is absent in other religions such as Christianity,Judaism, where race-centric and class divisions persist and which is one of the reasons for the large number of converts to Islam. In Hinduism the same goes for the lower castes who converted en masse to Islam, to escape inequality and discrimination. Multiculturalism... Yuck... It sickens me. Multiculturalism in a sense is important, as it helps people to come out of the confines of conditioned society. When you see that people of other religions or cultures have different pov's to your own, it makes you question things rather than accepting them for granted and being in the same rut or groove till death.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 19:09:53 GMT
Multiculturalism... Yuck... It sickens me. Multiculturalism in a sense is important, as it helps people to come out of the confines of conditioned society. When you see that people of other religions or cultures have different pov's to your own, it makes you question things rather than accepting them for granted and being in the same rut or groove till death. ajay0 do you really fail to recognize joke?
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Post by ajay0 on Feb 2, 2018 19:15:24 GMT
I fail to see what is the joke here !
If it were not for the arabs, the west would still be using the cumbersome roman numeral system even now which is incapable of higher mathematics or science!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 19:22:35 GMT
I fail to see what is the joke here !
If it were not for the arabs, the west would still be using the cumbersome roman numeral system even now which is incapable of higher mathematics or science! This is all I asked for
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 2, 2018 19:24:08 GMT
i don't know what Muslims in Europe do, but Islam is the religion of peace. whatever Muslims claim or believe, Islam does not call for forcing Islamic teachings on non-Muslims. Islam is a set of beliefs either you take it all or you leave it all. but the Quran says in some many places that people are free to choose their faith and they should be allowed to practice the religion they choose if they live in a Muslim community. Yes, exactky, this is how it should be, a choice. And yeah some religions do force their religions on others even some in mine. But a religion is a belief so it's weird to force someone to believe in something when it is a natural act
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 2, 2018 19:29:11 GMT
i am not here to defend Muslims because i know they are like other human beings you can find the good and the bad among them, i am against that whatever a Muslim does is attributed to the religion of Islam. Islam is a continuation of the prophethood of Judaism and christianity, and in Islam if you do not hold that Jesus is the messenger of God and Moses is the messenger of God you are not Muslim because in Islam they are equally important as Muhammed (PBUH) This indeed true. There are even bad people in Christianity. It all comes down to how well people practice their faiths I guess and express it to others.
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 2, 2018 19:33:02 GMT
All Avraamic religions (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) is peacefull, in their natures. Mostly, people who translate their vain and evil beliefs into practice is good examples of how this traditions can be corrupt (early Christianity - to age of dogma and Crusades). But i believe most people, who have faith in God, are mostly good and moral - but bad minority (also, posers) is give religion of peace abominable image. Yeah, they should be quiet similar in nature since they have similarities in their practices and beliefs. But there are always corrupt people found in religions as well as outside if them. Would be nice if peace was universal
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 2, 2018 19:39:20 GMT
those who kill their family members do not represent Islam. extremest are found in every community. isn't it happening all the time in America that a teenager shoots his parents or may be worse? A mentally ill child killing his family is no comparison to mass killing and gang rapes as seen in europe in the same of islam. i seriously thing you need to question your current view on islam as it is ignorant towards what statistics show. if we do not learn from our history we do not learn at all. Technically, mass killings are just popular in USA for example. So it's not a just a certain group or not. It's just those groups who wish to prove something with a message but I don't think anyone ever sees a message other than they are unstable and need to be stopped to save humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 19:43:17 GMT
In my part of the world Islam brought bloody battles, then torture of Muslim over Christian population for a couple of centuries, and then bloody battles again, and it doesn't seem like its over.
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