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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 27, 2018 12:22:13 GMT
Your attitude to Islam! Discuss!
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Post by crakzeno on Jan 27, 2018 12:40:50 GMT
The same as all mass religions.
I don't like how things are pressured within the societies. And how it's used as an excuse for power and selfish gain, this happens in almost all mass religions as far as I've seen, likewise there will be those who're genuinely wonderful people, it's not the religion - it's the specific people.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 27, 2018 13:17:32 GMT
The same as all mass religions. I don't like how things are pressured within the societies. And how it's used as an excuse for power and selfish gain, this happens in almost all mass religions as far as I've seen, likewise there will be those who're genuinely wonderful people, it's not the religion - it's the specific people.I think in UK is too liberal about Islam!
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Post by crakzeno on Jan 27, 2018 13:22:02 GMT
The Qur'an, says much the same things as the bible. I know some muslism, they're nice people, it's really not the religion that's the problem. It's certain people, certain places. Extremists do not speak for the majority, millions of people walked in protest - muslisms - about how media is portraying islam as a whole; as if it's all like that. I think that too many people go straight off what general media shows.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 13:30:48 GMT
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Post by hamad on Feb 6, 2018 5:46:26 GMT
I am a muslim so obviously, I have a good attitude towards islam , but I don't have positive views on all forms of Islam, because I believe that a lot of people preach a version of islam that is hateful and destructive. I think the question about whether it's the people or the religion is not correct. Because a religion is more than just the holy book, so what happens when there are 'bad scholars' they have bad interpretations then they write it as texts and books, and then even good ones might be tricked by it. Also, people will refer to that interpretations as part of the religion rather than the understanding of a particular scholar.
I think the main problem with us muslims is the fact that we hold old generation scholars sacred, which means we don't disagree with them even if they have said things that won't fit our current modern culture.
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Post by fschmidt on Feb 6, 2018 6:24:07 GMT
I strongly support Islam. It is the only viable alternative to disgusting degenerate depraved evil anti-intellectual modern culture. Even though I am not Muslim, I attend my local mosque several times each week and I give them significant financial support. To anyone who disagrees, I ask you what is the alternative to Islam? I have searched and haven't found anything else.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Feb 6, 2018 6:27:36 GMT
I have already said my piece regarding Islam and I would just be repeating my self.
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 6, 2018 6:49:36 GMT
There are good and bad people in all religions as well as in no religions.
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Post by fschmidt on Feb 6, 2018 6:58:42 GMT
There are good and bad people in all religions as well as in no religions. I don't think there are any good people left in modern culture. The good people I knew went insane or killed themselves. As far as I can tell, all that remains are evil morons.
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 6, 2018 7:03:46 GMT
There are good and bad people in all religions as well as in no religions. I don't think there are any good people left in modern culture. The good people I knew went insane or killed themselves. As far as I can tell, all that remains are evil morons. By good I was referring to at least ones who don't harm you physically or purposely seek to make your life miserable. They just let you be. These ones I can live with basically on the planet. But yeah other than the rest it's not a good world of people.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Feb 6, 2018 7:38:24 GMT
There are good and bad people in all religions as well as in no religions. I don’t think it’s fair to paint all religions with one brush. Certain religions have values that don’t mix with modern values, as well as certain cultures and societies and certain religions contribute to a disproportionate amount of violence.
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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 6, 2018 7:45:34 GMT
There are good and bad people in all religions as well as in no religions. I don’t think it’s fair to paint all religions with one brush. Certain religions have values that don’t mix with modern values, as well as certain cultures and societies and certain religions contribute to a disproportionate amount of violence. So you're saying there has never been a violent person in a certain religion?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 7:54:10 GMT
Favorable. Pays respect to Jesus, takes an agnostic stance on deity, builds on Jewish-Christian scriptures to give them a more rational content. The rough edges are later interpolations, falsified reports, time-contextual precepts.
The genuine teachings of Mohammed are somewhere in the Quran, just as the genuine teachings of Jesus are somewhere in the New Testament.
It'd be a mistake to confuse "migrants", Islamic State, etc. as representing all Muslims.
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Post by AmericanCharm on Feb 6, 2018 8:38:19 GMT
I don’t think it’s fair to paint all religions with one brush. Certain religions have values that don’t mix with modern values, as well as certain cultures and societies and certain religions contribute to a disproportionate amount of violence. So you're saying there has never been a violent person in a certain religion? No I’m saying it’s like an easy way to be non confrontational to say oh well there is good and bad in all religions. Which is true but there is a disproportionate amount of violence, rape, and terror that comes from certain religions. So it’s not as simple as there is good and bad among both. It goes further than a simple statement like that. Islam is a threat to western civilization and there isn’t two ways about. Sharia Law and Islamic values aren’t compatible with Western civilizations. It’s like saying all races have good and bad and then you look at statistics. In 2014 blacks committed 8,000 of 11,000 gun murders in the U.S. So 7% of the population made up 80% of the gun crime. That’s a consistent statistic slightly more or less every year. In America 81% of all white murder victims are killed by peoples of African descent. Despite being outnumbered by whites five to one, blacks commit eight times more crimes against whites than vice-versa. A black male is 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse. These figures also show that interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white. When adjusted to population size when it comes to aggregated assault the rates for blacks is 200% higher against whites than it is whites against blacks. From 2011 to 2016 40.5% per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering. 90% of interracial crime is black on white crime. If NYC were entirely white would drop 83%, murder would drop 91%, and shooting would drop 96%. Whites who grow up in the same poor economic environments as blacks are less likely to commit crimes and more likely to graduate high school. Whites who grow up in this same poor economic environment (households making under 20,000 a year) have equal IQs and SAT scores as blacks who come from households making 200,000 a year. In 2015 93% of blacks were killed by other blacks that is a consistent statistic. Most crime is black on black crime. They also collect a disproportional amount of government assistance. And so on, so to me it’s not as simple as there are good and bad people all in all races and religions. That is only the beginning of truth. Some religions and races commit disproportional amounts violence and crime. Look at the state of the countries in Europe that accepted the Islamic refugees crime (in particular rape went up exponentially) as well as counties having to raise their retirement age because the refugees aren’t working and are collecting government assistance instread.
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