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Post by Supermentalita on Dec 26, 2017 21:44:21 GMT
Your thoughts on the following (specially for our Macedonian members):
- Albanian flag allowed to be flown on Macedonian government municipal buildings, and streets of cities with Albanian minority population.
-Students of Albanian origin are separated from Macedonian students in classes
-Albanian textbooks for the students are flawed, for example, they are not just an Albanian translation of the Macedonian books, they are totally different books in that they focus on Albania and history of the Albanian people (in Albania). I remember seeing an Albanian elementary school book that are used in Macedonia from that Macedonian Ministry website. In it, it showed some children illustrations of kids talking to each other saying something like "Hi, my name is Ismail and I am an Albanian from Kosovo, Hi my name is Habib and I am from Albania, and one from Macedonia, but together we are all Albanians". WTF how will this help Macedonia? Look at the message these children are taught from a young age.
- Albanian students are taught Albanian and English from the first grade, Macedonian is taught from the fourth grade but only as a second language which means that math, history, biology, and all the scientific vocabulary are taught in the Albanian language. How the fu** is this supposed to integrate Albanians into Macedonian society? And why is English being taught before Macedonian?
-Mosques are popping up in Macedonia like weeds. For example in Skopje there are like 30+ mosques and only a few churches, but 75% of Skopje is apparently Christian. This means that mosques are being built solely for political purposes by Albanian groups, sometimes without the appropriate documentation or permits yet the Macedonian government isn't doing anything about it. In fact, it is probably easier to build a mosque than it is to build a church in Macedonia (legally).
-the law that changed municipal borders to make Albanians the majority in places like Struga was a disaster for Macedonia. Why is the government looking after the interests of Albanians before the Macedonians?
-I remember reading a news article a couple of months ago that said out of the 300 newly hired government workers in Macedonia, 99% are Albanians, because of the new law that requires bilingualism in the Albanian language.
-Let's not forget the new "Skenderbeu Square" proposed for the center of Skopje, it was approved by the Macedonian government, and according to the details it will be significantly larger than "Macedonia Square" and it is supposed to be the new meeting place for the city.
-Albanians in the Macedonian government are every week in Albania or Kosovo collaborating with Albanian politicians and signing agreements.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 26, 2017 21:55:38 GMT
This is a bad idea but yeah let's leave it to Macedonian members to decide. XD
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 26, 2017 22:41:10 GMT
Yes! Interesting opinions of our Macedonian and other Balkan users!
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Post by clamenza23 on Dec 27, 2017 6:47:45 GMT
Who gives a shit really
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Supermentalita
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Post by Supermentalita on Dec 27, 2017 7:54:59 GMT
Why should we not? Macedonia is probably the most friendly Balkan country I have been visiting.
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Supermentalita
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Post by Supermentalita on Dec 27, 2017 21:14:56 GMT
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Post by thirdworldistfascist on Jan 20, 2018 19:07:43 GMT
macedonia belongs to greece
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Post by khaos on Jan 20, 2018 20:33:37 GMT
macedonia belongs to greece Only an ignorant moron like yourself would say something like that. Anyway... - Albanian flag allowed to be flown on Macedonian government municipal buildings, and streets of cities with Albanian minority population.
In cities or municipalities where Albanians are more than half that's allowed, and it has been allowed since 2001 or more precisely since the Ohrid framework agreement was signed. -Students of Albanian origin are separated from Macedonian students in classesIt has been like that... since ever, and it will stay like that, that's how we avoid many ethnic-conflicts. If we studied in the same classrooms, we would probably kill each-other, and no, I am not joking. There's a big hatred between us. -Albanian textbooks for the students are flawed, for example, they are not just an Albanian translation of the Macedonian books, they are totally different books in that they focus on Albania and history of the Albanian people (in Albania). I remember seeing an Albanian elementary school book that are used in Macedonia from that Macedonian Ministry website. In it, it showed some children illustrations of kids talking to each other saying something like "Hi, my name is Ismail and I am an Albanian from Kosovo, Hi my name is Habib and I am from Albania, and one from Macedonia, but together we are all Albanians". WTF how will this help Macedonia? Look at the message these children are taught from a young age.That's true, Albanians are taught like that from a very young age. I mean, I don't have anything against them learning about Albania's history and culture, but they act like there are no borders between Macedonia, Kosovo, Epirus(Chameria) and Albania. They completely ignore the fact they live in a country where they are a minority, and that we make the rules here, not them. But, all our previous (and current) governments always want to satisfy the minority's "rights" (more like demands), than to their own people. They would allow textbooks like that to be printed without second thinking, it's just the way it was and still is. -Albanian students are taught Albanian and English from the first grade, Macedonian is taught from the fourth grade but only as a second language which means that math, history, biology, and all the scientific vocabulary are taught in the Albanian language. How the fu** is this supposed to integrate Albanians into Macedonian society? And why is English being taught before Macedonian?
Because our governments allowed that. And the people are fine with that, which is more scarier. - Mosques are popping up in Macedonia like weeds. For example in Skopje there are like 30+ mosques and only a few churches, but 75% of Skopje is apparently Christian. This means that mosques are being built solely for political purposes by Albanian groups, sometimes without the appropriate documentation or permits yet the Macedonian government isn't doing anything about it. In fact, it is probably easier to build a mosque than it is to build a church in Macedonia (legally).
Albanians want to show their presence there by building mosques. In my city there're like 3 mosques. Only 1 is an Ottoman leftover, the others are new built. By the way, there're like 17 mosques in Skopje, and more than 40 churches. -the law that changed municipal borders to make Albanians the majority in places like Struga was a disaster for Macedonia. Why is the government looking after the interests of Albanians before the Macedonians?
Because, as I said, our government treats us (the Macedonians) as a second class people. Everyone else before us, Albanians, Serbs, Aromanians, Turks etc. -I remember reading a news article a couple of months ago that said out of the 300 newly hired government workers in Macedonia, 99% are Albanians, because of the new law that requires bilingualism in the Albanian language. Never heard about that one, could you tell me where you'd read that? -Let's not forget the new "Skenderbeu Square" proposed for the center of Skopje, it was approved by the Macedonian government, and according to the details it will be significantly larger than "Macedonia Square" and it is supposed to be the new meeting place for the city.
Not gonna happen, just rumors. -Albanians in the Macedonian government are every week in Albania or Kosovo collaborating with Albanian politicians and signing agreements.
True, but what can we do ordinary people do..
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Jan 20, 2018 21:35:40 GMT
Seems Albanians have more rights than Macedonians. Wrong?
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Post by khaos on Jan 20, 2018 23:36:20 GMT
Seems Albanians have more rights than Macedonians. Wrong? Something like that.
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Post by thirdworldistfascist on Jan 21, 2018 1:51:34 GMT
ah I think I know you from another place. hmmmmm what could that be? I don't understand why it seems so many defenders of Albania seem to exist here.
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