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Post by hussy on Dec 25, 2017 20:40:11 GMT
When in love, people (lovers) claim many things, like 'I can do anything for you', "I sacrificed this for you.. That's for you " i will do this... DO that " What not. In all honesty if someone does all this, actually s/he, still fulfilling their own desire, to make themselves satisfied /happy.So whatever they sacrifice is less valuable to them as compare to their love/passion... In short they're acting as per their own impulsive priority ! '
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Post by ajay0 on Jan 13, 2018 11:27:46 GMT
When in love, people (lovers) claim many things, like 'I can do anything for you', "I sacrificed this for you.. That's for you " i will do this... DO that " What not. In all honesty if someone does all this, actually s/he, still fulfilling their own desire, to make themselves satisfied /happy.So whatever they sacrifice is less valuable to them as compare to their love/passion... In short they're acting as per their own impulsive priority ! ' Likes and dislikes, as per the philosophies of Advaita Vedanta and Buddhism,are just temporary modifications of the mind, which changes as per changing situations and circumstances. Someone you hated yesterday, you might like tomorrow and viceversa. It is these superficial likes that are often termed as 'love', which is an incorrect interpretation of it. It is actually emotion or sentiment of a psychological content , which is different from love. I would say love heals and refines perception, while raw emotion or sentiment due to strong likes and dislikes causes psychological and physiological damage, and distorts perception leading to erroneous action as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 16:00:22 GMT
When in love, people (lovers) claim many things, like 'I can do anything for you', "I sacrificed this for you.. That's for you " i will do this... DO that " What not. In all honesty if someone does all this, actually s/he, still fulfilling their own desire, to make themselves satisfied /happy.So whatever they sacrifice is less valuable to them as compare to their love/passion... In short they're acting as per their own impulsive priority ! ' Likes and dislikes, as per the philosophies of Advaita Vedanta and Buddhism,are just temporary modifications of the mind, which changes as per changing situations and circumstances. Someone you hated yesterday, you might like tomorrow and viceversa. It is these superficial likes that are often termed as 'love', which is an incorrect interpretation of it. It is actually emotion or sentiment of a psychological content , which is different from love. I would say love heals and refines perception, while raw emotion or sentiment due to strong likes and dislikes causes psychological and physiological damage, and distorts perception leading to erroneous action as well. Maybe you're right, but when you are in presumption of love, when you have feelings, your mind is very different. That's why discussion about love not being in love - it's something very different from being loved or being in love. So, abstracting from feelings we might loose them and make our discussions about love the discussions of the empty or the empty discussion.
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Post by ajay0 on Jan 13, 2018 17:37:04 GMT
No, it is not less valuable if the person who sacrifices himself do it for her (him) to believe in his feeling. For example, I love her very much, but she loves me less, so, I sent myself to death to prove that my love is stronger. But this is selfishness, as you are bothered about her feelings for you because she is beautiful and opened your eyes, and not that of your family's and friend's love for you, which is sweet but not that romantically beautiful or sensational. If she really made you understand life, then you would know that life is too valuable a gift to lose with beautiful nature, stars and moon, innocent animals, birds, plants and so on. I would say that you are seeking sensory and emotional gratification then through an infatuation, and this proves the theme of the op. Love is a state of being, not an emotion or sentiment. Imho,in your case it is emotion and sentiment operating, not love. Because love sees the whole picture, while emotion sees only a partial aspect of the totality, and makes errors of judgement due to this disconnect.
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Post by hussy on Jan 14, 2018 2:17:52 GMT
No, it is not less valuable if the person who sacrifices himself do it for her (him) to believe in his feeling. For example, I love her very much, but she loves me less, so, I sent myself to death to prove that my love is stronger. But this is selfishness, as you are bothered about her feelings for you because she is beautiful and opened your eyes, and not that of your family's and friend's love for you, which is sweet but not that romantically beautiful or sensational. If she really made you understand life, then you would know that life is too valuable a gift to lose with beautiful nature, stars and moon, innocent animals, birds, plants and so on. I would say that you are seeking sensory and emotional gratification then through an infatuation, and this proves the theme of the op. Love is a state of being, not an emotion or sentiment. Imho,in your case it is emotion and sentiment operating, not love. Because love sees the whole picture, while emotion sees only a partial aspect of the totality, and makes errors of judgement due to this disconnect. When someone's love rise above the possessiveness, Condition of union or all other conditions... it's not selfishness. Appreciation of beauty(physical or spiritual, mental) without a feeling of possession is true love.. Not infatuation/impulsive emotion. Doing good things he not only make her proud, but all other(family & friends) & himself will also be happy & in the process he will inculcate high level of compassion,which is precursor of seeing the whole picture... It's the far better tribute to love than living in emotionally shattered, lost conditions. In the above discussions, I tried emphasis on freedom.. we should neither control nor get controlled by someone.... Coz love frees you.
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Post by ajay0 on Jan 14, 2018 10:59:15 GMT
I fell in love with a girl as a youth, though she lacked the same feelings for me and it was very painful when we parted. It took me some years to come off the sad hangover of it, but now when I look at it, I just laugh at the whole thing thinking how could I have been so foolish to fall for emotional drama self-created. Life just goes on and keeps bringing new pleasant surprises. A handsome, intelligent and charming guy like Eugene obviously have some lucky girl waiting for him in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 18:13:39 GMT
"A handsome, intelligent and charming guy like Eugene obviously have some lucky girl waiting for him in the future..." Oh!... I don't even know what to say?!.. ...Really, all these words!.. Am I deserved to hear it?!.. I really, really appreciate it!.. Thank you, Ajajo!.. But, you know, I'making so many mistakes in English, so I can't call myself an intelligent, but rather 'mistaklligent ...
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