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Post by hussy on Dec 25, 2017 20:40:11 GMT
When in love, people (lovers) claim many things, like 'I can do anything for you', "I sacrificed this for you.. That's for you " i will do this... DO that " What not. In all honesty if someone does all this, actually s/he, still fulfilling their own desire, to make themselves satisfied /happy.So whatever they sacrifice is less valuable to them as compare to their love/passion... In short they're acting as per their own impulsive priority ! '
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Post by mitchell on Dec 26, 2017 2:23:32 GMT
So, all love is selfish? I think not.
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Post by hussy on Dec 26, 2017 2:27:14 GMT
So, all love is selfish? I think not. yes you right, there is an exception. Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 26, 2017 2:53:44 GMT
Love sacrifices a lot but when it thinks sacrificing is just dull then it is just done in vain.
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Post by hussy on Dec 26, 2017 3:28:58 GMT
Love sacrifices a lot but when it thinks sacrificing is just dull then it is just done in vain. Yes people do/think ... Even parents say this.. I suppose parents child love is less selfish than the romantic one(between couple 👫, lovers) Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 26, 2017 7:42:00 GMT
I'll say 50/50 .. Depending on the case!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 19:30:20 GMT
Surely, love is different: storge - parental, filos - kinda philosophy; eros - comments arent needed; and agape - close to christian view.
These types of luv I borrowed from Plato's "Banquet".
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Post by ZeroInteruppt on Jan 10, 2018 3:04:47 GMT
I don’t know. When I have been in love I’ve usually just liked doing things for her. True it might have been because BOFA a pseudo psychological desire for my own fulfillment but at the time I don’t believe I even thought about it. It was just reflex.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:40:29 GMT
When in love, people (lovers) claim many things, like 'I can do anything for you', "I sacrificed this for you.. That's for you " i will do this... DO that " What not. In all honesty if someone does all this, actually s/he, still fulfilling their own desire, to make themselves satisfied /happy.So whatever they sacrifice is less valuable to them as compare to their love/passion... In short they're acting as per their own impulsive priority ! ' No, it is not less valuable if the person who sacrifices himself do it for her (him) to believe in his feeling. For example, I love her very much, but she loves me less, so, I sent myself to death to prove that my love is stronger.
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Post by hussy on Jan 10, 2018 11:07:17 GMT
When in love, people (lovers) claim many things, like 'I can do anything for you', "I sacrificed this for you.. That's for you " i will do this... DO that " What not. In all honesty if someone does all this, actually s/he, still fulfilling their own desire, to make themselves satisfied /happy.So whatever they sacrifice is less valuable to them as compare to their love/passion... In short they're acting as per their own impulsive priority ! ' No, it is not less valuable if the person who sacrifices himself do it for her (him) to believe in his feeling. For example, I love her very much, but she loves me less, so, I sent myself to death to prove that my love is stronger. Ending life to prove your love to someone is very rare to near non-existent(it's just tall claim) in the first place. Still if you do.. You doing it obliviously, emotionally, unreasonably, feeling your death would be more satisfying than living without her.... Still A feeling of satisfaction on your part prevailed here... So You doing it for your own satisfaction in return she will feel a guilt/uneasiness(on your death).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 11:26:47 GMT
No, it is not less valuable if the person who sacrifices himself do it for her (him) to believe in his feeling. For example, I love her very much, but she loves me less, so, I sent myself to death to prove that my love is stronger. Ending life to prove your love to someone is very rare to near non-existent(it's just tall claim) in the first place. Still if you do.. You doing it obliviously, emotionally, unreasonably, feeling your death would be more satisfying than living without her.... Still A feeling of satisfaction on your part prevailed here... So You doing it for your own satisfaction in return she will feel a guilt/uneasiness(on your death). But what else could I do to prove her my feelings? She hates me, and I love her more than my life? I know such action brings nothing, it doesn't 'cause nobody understands my feelings.. I'd better commit a suicide than be living with this pain. Yes, it's cowardly I know it, but committing a suicide is a brave action just for myself. If nobody understands me, then I will understand myself at least!
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Post by hussy on Jan 12, 2018 20:09:03 GMT
Ending life to prove your love to someone is very rare to near non-existent(it's just tall claim) in the first place. Still if you do.. You doing it obliviously, emotionally, unreasonably, feeling your death would be more satisfying than living without her.... Still A feeling of satisfaction on your part prevailed here... So You doing it for your own satisfaction in return she will feel a guilt/uneasiness(on your death). But what else could I do to prove her my feelings? She hates me, and I love her more than my life? I know such action brings nothing, it doesn't 'cause nobody understands my feelings.. I'd better commit a suicide than be living with this pain. Yes, it's cowardly I know it, but committing a suicide is a brave action just for myself. If nobody understands me, then I will understand myself at least! You can achieve & earn(job, money, status) anything with your hard work, creativity & dedication. But you can't be sure for a another person to be in your life with 99% surety, coz every human being is a universe in itself(complexity of thought, choice, free will, preferences etc). If she doesn't like you, she can't force herself to like you... So The best thing to do is, leave her in peace... Don't be too much available for her(sometime absence/rarity make people realise worth of others), & Show yourself.. You have got spines. Leave things on time & do your work, keep yourself busy, do sports etc. If You love her truly, union should not be a condition.. coz.. Conditional Love is not a true love. "Time is a great healer & rejuvenator"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 20:29:07 GMT
But what else could I do to prove her my feelings? She hates me, and I love her more than my life? I know such action brings nothing, it doesn't 'cause nobody understands my feelings.. I'd better commit a suicide than be living with this pain. Yes, it's cowardly I know it, but committing a suicide is a brave action just for myself. If nobody understands me, then I will understand myself at least! You can achieve & earn(job, money, status) anything with your hard work, creativity & dedication. But you can't be sure for a another person to be in your life with 99% surety, coz every human being is a universe in itself(complexity of thought, choice, free will, preferences etc). If she doesn't like you, she can't force herself to like you... So The best thing to do is, leave her in peace... Don't be too much available for her(sometime absence/rarity make people realise worth of others), & Show yourself.. You have got spines. Leave things on time & do your work, keep yourself busy, do sports etc. If You love her truly, union should not be a condition.. coz.. Conditional Love is not a true love. "Time is a great healer & rejuvenator" Aw, thank you for your answering, I really appreciate it! But what if I just want to ask her for sorry for myself, for my faults?.. I agree, you're right, that there is no good in conditional love, and, anyway, I'm still loving her... So, I'm looking just for friendship at least... ...If I was loving her beauty - it wouldn't be an obstacle; for her body - it wouldn't too; even if she were my only one chance in life - it wouldn't... Then, why do I love and for what?.. I love her for opening my eyes, for making me understand the life and myself!.. So, my love is rather a way to tell her thanks for my salvation...
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Post by hussy on Jan 13, 2018 1:06:07 GMT
You can achieve & earn(job, money, status) anything with your hard work, creativity & dedication. But you can't be sure for a another person to be in your life with 99% surety, coz every human being is a universe in itself(complexity of thought, choice, free will, preferences etc). If she doesn't like you, she can't force herself to like you... So The best thing to do is, leave her in peace... Don't be too much available for her(sometime absence/rarity make people realise worth of others), & Show yourself.. You have got spines. Leave things on time & do your work, keep yourself busy, do sports etc. If You love her truly, union should not be a condition.. coz.. Conditional Love is not a true love. "Time is a great healer & rejuvenator" Aw, thank you for your answering, I really appreciate it! But what if I just want to ask her for sorry for myself, for my faults?.. I agree, you're right, that there is no good in conditional love, and, anyway, I'm still loving her... So, I'm looking just for friendship at least... ...If I was loving her beauty - it wouldn't be an obstacle; for her body - it wouldn't too; even if she were my only one chance in life - it wouldn't... Then, why do I love and for what?.. I love her for opening my eyes, for making me understand the life and myself!.. So, my love is rather a way to tell her thanks for my salvation... Since I am unaware of whole story! If you think you've made some mistakes(faults). Then not only say sorry but also do those things that she likes you to do(recommended). Since one of the main reason for you to love her is the positive impact she made on your life, therefore the greatest gift for her is "make her proud" & you know how to that.. right. (by doing things.. that she likes you to do) Shunning irritating actions(to her), obsessive romantic emotions & doing good things you can also develop is a chance that she might start loving you(but keep in mind she is free to do whatever she likes "to be with u or not") Bro think love is beyond union.... I Was in love with a girl, she who proposed me first, it's was she who decided to marry me.. It's was she who fall in love with me first.... . .it's was a LDR, i traveled all the way to her country, covering 10s of 1000 miles..i sold my car to fund my (expensive) tour.. WE stayed together for a week.. a memorable week for both of us... But in the end she walks away from the relationship... She decided not to Come with me(long story, parents denial) NOT because of my fault but because of her own priority. It was like hell fall upon me for 2,3 days to a week) .. Then i made realise myself, "union is not the condition" I didn't fight, I didn't said a negative word to her for the terrible end,in spit of all this... But She know it's all her fault ,she started & ended.... WE are friend now... She Still keep saying me this" in this life I can't find a person like you"... & She says "u r like an Angel" .....But, i know i am not not.. I am just a mortal human with all fault but I have developed a good patience in myself.. & It's amazing good feeling.. not painful at all... I feel strengthened because of my patience. Bro! time heals everything & everything happen for a reason.. A good reason keep your finger crossed 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 7:31:11 GMT
But what else could I do to prove her my feelings? She hates me, and I love her more than my life? I know such action brings nothing, it doesn't 'cause nobody understands my feelings.. I'd better commit a suicide than be living with this pain. Yes, it's cowardly I know it, but committing a suicide is a brave action just for myself. If nobody understands me, then I will understand myself at least! You can achieve & earn(job, money, status) anything with your hard work, creativity & dedication. But you can't be sure for a another person to be in your life with 99% surety, coz every human being is a universe in itself(complexity of thought, choice, free will, preferences etc). If she doesn't like you, she can't force herself to like you... So The best thing to do is, leave her in peace... Don't be too much available for her(sometime absence/rarity make people realise worth of others), & Show yourself.. You have got spines. Leave things on time & do your work, keep yourself busy, do sports etc. If You love her truly, union should not be a condition.. coz.. Conditional Love is not a true love. "Time is a great healer & rejuvenator" ...I don't even know what to say?.. Maybe I can't understand your feeling of all of this but - You are great man!!.. This story really impressed me. It impressed because now I know that there are people with a strong spirit!.. I don't even know what to add?.. ...Oh, you do have a heart and feelings! And this traveling, this thousands of miles... Yes, I think only real, only honorable and only the bravest man could make it! Thank you! Thank you for your patience and for your mastering all of this life obstacles! You know only a human who mastered and improved yourself could make me believe in myself! Thank you again! I really glad that men like you exist! p.s. and sorry for my poor English. I'll try to update my language
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