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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 5, 2023 11:56:47 GMT
Since Parmenides a thought, since Plato a concept of the self-identical deity came. The self-identitiness is a subclass of the class of the self-correspond deities. Such things have attributes that depend only of their own nature, so those things are independent. Values may be assumed as a subclass of the class of the attributes.
We may ask if such deities as the self-identical ones have values that are independent. We must answer negative, since if there are two or more self-identical deities which are identical among each other /let's say A and B/ so their values may be different, therefore, if there's no way to differ A from B, we don't know about the values neither of A, nor of B.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on May 5, 2023 18:38:14 GMT
Since Parmenides a thought, since Plato a concept of the self-identical deity came. The self-identitiness is a subclass of the class of the self-correspond deities. Such things have attributes that depend only of their own nature, so those things are independent. Values may be assumed as a subclass of the class of the attributes. We may ask if such deities as the self-identical ones have values that are independent. We must answer negative, since if there are two or more self-identical deities which are identical among each other /let's say A and B/ so their values may be different, therefore, if there's no way to differ A from B, we don't know about the values neither of A, nor of B. If a phenomenon is self-identical then that entity has multiple identities given self-identity is synonymous to self-equivocation and equivocation requires at minimum a dyad (A=A) or more than a dyad (A=A=A=...). This multiplicity of identities results in difference between said identities because of time and space (i.e. myself at 2 o'clock is not the same as myself at 3 o'clock). Under these terms there is no self-identical phenomenon. From another perspective a self-identical phenomenon relates only to itself thus is without contrast and from this it is no-thing. Why am I saying this? Because the premise of self-identity is paradoxical. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 5, 2023 18:57:21 GMT
Since Parmenides a thought, since Plato a concept of the self-identical deity came. The self-identitiness is a subclass of the class of the self-correspond deities. Such things have attributes that depend only of their own nature, so those things are independent. Values may be assumed as a subclass of the class of the attributes. We may ask if such deities as the self-identical ones have values that are independent. We must answer negative, since if there are two or more self-identical deities which are identical among each other /let's say A and B/ so their values may be different, therefore, if there's no way to differ A from B, we don't know about the values neither of A, nor of B. If a phenomenon is self-identical then that entity has multiple identities given self-identity is synonymous to self-equivocation and equivocation requires at minimum a dyad (A=A) or more than a dyad (A=A=A=...). This multiplicity of identities results in difference between said identities because of time and space (i.e. myself at 2 o'clock is not the same as myself at 3 o'clock). Under these terms there is no self-identical phenomenon. From another perspective a self-identical phenomenon relates only to itself thus is without contrast and from this it is no-thing. Why am I saying this? Because the premise of self-identity is paradoxical. I wouldn't be so far about the concept of self-indenity, but I guess it has problems. And what you've written - yeah, there's such a case, I was aware of it writing it. A simple dyad is already a problem. Plato went far and he started where you ended - at the multiplicacy. My strike was against truth-values of that. Must say that if the self-identity has no truth-values this concept, not being meaningless, is paradoxical. But I'm not sure about if this concept lacks the truth values. Might be that self-identical deities exist in some way. Among geometrical truths there are such. |
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