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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Apr 21, 2023 20:12:27 GMT
This can be observed when the laws of logic self-reference in certain degrees. Either the law of identity (equality) or the law of non-contradiction (non-equality) exists when the law of excluded middle is applied to them. If the law of identity is true, and law of non-contradiction is false, then A=A and A=-A (the actual is equal to the non-actual). Under these terms A equals everything. If non-contradiction is true, and the law of identity is false, then A=/=-A but A=/=A (A does not equal anything; if A were to equal B or C it could not because B or C would be the equivalent of saying, at the meta level, A=A if B or C is A). Under these terms A equals nothing.
Either there is everything or there is nothing and this 'or' nature to the argument necessitates a choice thus manifesting the question of "everything or nothing?" as fundamentally a subjective grasp of reality. This subjective nature necessitates the answer to the question as fundamentally random.
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Post by jonbain on Apr 22, 2023 7:53:11 GMT
When you can program that into an evolutionary algorithm using real-world examples then you have real logic.
Random? Can you define what you mean by that? Indeterminate or the appearance of such?
Chaos? TRUE Chaos? Do you know what I mean by that?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Apr 26, 2023 17:31:58 GMT
When you can program that into an evolutionary algorithm using real-world examples then you have real logic. Random? Can you define what you mean by that? Indeterminate or the appearance of such? Chaos? TRUE Chaos? Do you know what I mean by that? False in regards to the programming, either the law of non-contradiction is true and the law of identity is false or the law of non-contradiction is false and the law of identity is true. There is no logic underlying which is chosen...and 'chosen' is the key word considering the 'or' function of excluded middle. Considering we do not understand choice this absence of understanding equates it to having a degree of randomness. To revert back to 'choice', the computer when taking both sides equally is left with an indeterminate state thus if one is to see which of the two options occurs a choice has to be made and this choice is not necessarily logical.
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