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Post by jonbain on Mar 23, 2023 11:31:29 GMT
I was watching a fairly boring video where some guy theorized that eels in the UK and in America are so similar that it proves plate-tectonics.
And it hit me, that this is why birds and salmon and such migrate around the world seasonally.
The original migration was a much shorter but more
necessary process in the past. But as the eons evolved,
those parts of the world just got further and further way.
The creatures concerned adapted to the changes, and perhaps even often went off course as the distances got greater and greater, but if they landed somewhere
hospitable, the new route would have just been adopted.
Rivers will change course, very easily too.
They are just following patterns of behavior that have gotten radical because of the huge amounts of time involved.
Just never heard any other explanation that fits the question at all.
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Post by jonbain on Apr 3, 2023 18:09:32 GMT
The other bit is that the continents have formed
a super-continent at least 4 times in the past,
breaking up and reforming over and over again.
So every part of the world, almost, was
connected to every other part of the world;
to a certain extent.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Apr 29, 2023 6:00:49 GMT
That was I usually wondering about it. To adopt themselves for new conditions, and moreover birds can fly, so they're able to migrate. Birds are very smart, they can do that migration, besides those explanations that use only outer factors are blind, because our inner nature is also nature.
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Post by jonbain on Apr 29, 2023 18:48:12 GMT
That was I usually wondering about it. To adopt themselves for new conditions, and moreover birds can fly, so they're able to migrate. Birds are very smart, they can do that migration, besides those explanations that use only outer factors are blind, because our inner nature is also nature.
I am thinking of doing a 3D blender model of this idea. Its going to to take some research first using examples that might fit.
Can we find birds that migrate across the south Atlantic, that fits those plate tectonics?
The problem being that the migration route can get disrupted, and yet still continue on to places not originally part of the route.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Apr 29, 2023 19:06:10 GMT
That was I usually wondering about it. To adopt themselves for new conditions, and moreover birds can fly, so they're able to migrate. Birds are very smart, they can do that migration, besides those explanations that use only outer factors are blind, because our inner nature is also nature.
I am thinking of doing a 3D blender model of this idea. Its going to to take some research first using examples that might fit.
Can we find birds that migrate across the south Atlantic, that fits those plate tectonics?
The problem being that the migration route can get disrupted, and yet still continue on to places not originally part of the route.
Your videos are impressive, and there are many visual explanations. It's charming. Yes, this model, you mentioned, is promising. |
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Post by jonbain on Apr 30, 2023 9:01:34 GMT
I am thinking of doing a 3D blender model of this idea. Its going to to take some research first using examples that might fit.
Can we find birds that migrate across the south Atlantic, that fits those plate tectonics?
The problem being that the migration route can get disrupted, and yet still continue on to places not originally part of the route.
Your videos are impressive, and there are many visual explanations. It's charming. Yes, this model, you mentioned, is promising.
I found this detail of bird migration patterns.
I am already seeing massive migrations to and from Alaska, which is notorious for being similar to the Himalayas:
lots of mountains that built up there over a very long time due to movement of plate tectonics.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Apr 30, 2023 13:43:50 GMT
Your videos are impressive, and there are many visual explanations. It's charming. Yes, this model, you mentioned, is promising.
I found this detail of bird migration patterns.
I am already seeing massive migrations to and from Alaska, which is notorious for being similar to the Himalayas:
lots of mountains that built up there over a very long time due to movement of plate tectonics.
I should say! I only hear time to time birds locally. In 2014 an acoustic telescope was being maken by me, but I didn't complete it. By the way, how did you know where they fly, or from where? That's a riddle for me to think, I still don't know how to trace their path, except for to put some marks on their flesh or using chips, or to monitor all their way back and forth. |
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Post by jonbain on Apr 30, 2023 16:00:27 GMT
I found this detail of bird migration patterns.
I am already seeing massive migrations to and from Alaska, which is notorious for being similar to the Himalayas:
lots of mountains that built up there over a very long time due to movement of plate tectonics.
I should say! I only hear time to time birds locally. In 2014 an acoustic telescope was being maken by me, but I didn't complete it. By the way, how did you know where they fly, or from where? That's a riddle for me to think, I still don't know how to trace their path, except for to put some marks on their flesh or using chips, or to monitor all their way back and forth.
I know little of actual bird patterns, I was more interested in the question because some have considered that they might be using the world's magnetic field to navigate - which sounds far more interesting than my answer.
But! Occam's Razor is my first weapon of choice. So I fear, its just a habit of very long periods of simple evolutionary patterns.
Another problem arises is that there are just so many types of birds, and their migration need not occur for only one reason.
But what gets my instincts alert is that the 'given theory' is that birds travel across entire oceans, whilst simply wandering around randomly looking for food.
I'm not sure if anyone had ever considered that its caused by continental drift? Plenty of searching and reading to do here.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Apr 30, 2023 16:47:06 GMT
I should say! I only hear time to time birds locally. In 2014 an acoustic telescope was being maken by me, but I didn't complete it. By the way, how did you know where they fly, or from where? That's a riddle for me to think, I still don't know how to trace their path, except for to put some marks on their flesh or using chips, or to monitor all their way back and forth.
I know little of actual bird patterns, I was more interested in the question because some have considered that they might be using the world's magnetic field to navigate - which sounds far more interesting than my answer.
But! Occam's Razor is my first weapon of choice. So I fear, its just a habit of very long periods of simple evolutionary patterns.
Another problem arises is that there are just so many types of birds, and their migration need not occur for only one reason.
But what gets my instincts alert is that the 'given theory' is that birds travel across entire oceans, whilst simply wandering around randomly looking for food.
I'm not sure if anyone had ever considered that its caused by continental drift? Plenty of searching and reading to do here.
In any case your knowledge are far much more great, than mine. I never studied birds plenty. Studying nature around me was plenty of useful, because my prior interest was to learn how to survive in different conditions, and what should I know about my surroundings, etc. Can't say I did a progress here. Anyway, the birds are what gives different additional info as insects, flora, rivers, etc. Also, I guess this is important to find out how birds can fly so long over an ocean. Monitoring (not for a long time though) the local birds way of flying I noticed - smaller birds wave their wings at least once in 15-30 seconds. Can't say for sure. We here got some bigger birds. I saw only three such ones: aistes, cranes, and some kind of a local hawks. (Also here are big ravens, etc, I don't remember their names.) So, those birds are rarely waving with their wings. For instance, a place where I used to live (now it's almost in ruins after the ruzzian invasion) had a family of cranes, and when a crane flew it could did it for hours, I presume. I just saw how many circles it made, and it almost never wave its wings once. Besides, what if a bird becomes hungry? It should at least to feed itself with a fish, maybe. Or the birds know the route where the reefs or something there. Anyway, this is a truly interesting thing to find out. Thank you for the info! |
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Post by jonbain on May 1, 2023 14:40:37 GMT
I know little of actual bird patterns, I was more interested in the question because some have considered that they might be using the world's magnetic field to navigate - which sounds far more interesting than my answer.
But! Occam's Razor is my first weapon of choice. So I fear, its just a habit of very long periods of simple evolutionary patterns.
Another problem arises is that there are just so many types of birds, and their migration need not occur for only one reason.
But what gets my instincts alert is that the 'given theory' is that birds travel across entire oceans, whilst simply wandering around randomly looking for food.
I'm not sure if anyone had ever considered that its caused by continental drift? Plenty of searching and reading to do here.
In any case your knowledge are far much more great, than mine. I never studied birds plenty. Studying nature around me was plenty of useful, because my prior interest was to learn how to survive in different conditions, and what should I know about my surroundings, etc. Can't say I did a progress here. Anyway, the birds are what gives different additional info as insects, flora, rivers, etc. Also, I guess this is important to find out how birds can fly so long over an ocean. Monitoring (not for a long time though) the local birds way of flying I noticed - smaller birds wave their wings at least once in 15-30 seconds. Can't say for sure. We here got some bigger birds. I saw only three such ones: aistes, cranes, and some kind of a local hawks. (Also here are big ravens, etc, I don't remember their names.) So, those birds are rarely waving with their wings. For instance, a place where I used to live (now it's almost in ruins after the ruzzian invasion) had a family of cranes, and when a crane flew it could did it for hours, I presume. I just saw how many circles it made, and it almost never wave its wings once. Besides, what if a bird becomes hungry? It should at least to feed itself with a fish, maybe. Or the birds know the route where the reefs or something there. Anyway, this is a truly interesting thing to find out. Thank you for the info! Ah, now the flight of birds I have studied very closely. You will notice in calm weather, they need to flap seldom. If the wind is steady, and not gusting erratically, then this also
aids their flight. But when the wind is turbulent, they seldom fly at all. A big difference between a strong steady wind, and one that is unpredictable.
You really need to read a book called Jonathan Livingstone Seagull.
(You need to scroll down a few pages before its starts)
Haha! And I knew it would be free as well. Its a very quick read, just a short story, really.
But the philosophy on life here is as good as biblical.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 1, 2023 15:15:32 GMT
In any case your knowledge are far much more great, than mine. I never studied birds plenty. Studying nature around me was plenty of useful, because my prior interest was to learn how to survive in different conditions, and what should I know about my surroundings, etc. Can't say I did a progress here. Anyway, the birds are what gives different additional info as insects, flora, rivers, etc. Also, I guess this is important to find out how birds can fly so long over an ocean. Monitoring (not for a long time though) the local birds way of flying I noticed - smaller birds wave their wings at least once in 15-30 seconds. Can't say for sure. We here got some bigger birds. I saw only three such ones: aistes, cranes, and some kind of a local hawks. (Also here are big ravens, etc, I don't remember their names.) So, those birds are rarely waving with their wings. For instance, a place where I used to live (now it's almost in ruins after the ruzzian invasion) had a family of cranes, and when a crane flew it could did it for hours, I presume. I just saw how many circles it made, and it almost never wave its wings once. Besides, what if a bird becomes hungry? It should at least to feed itself with a fish, maybe. Or the birds know the route where the reefs or something there. Anyway, this is a truly interesting thing to find out. Thank you for the info! Ah, now the flight of birds I have studied very closely. You will notice in calm weather, they need to flap seldom. If the wind is steady, and not gusting erratically, then this also
aids their flight. But when the wind is turbulent, they seldom fly at all. A big difference between a strong steady wind, and one that is unpredictable.
You really need to read a book called Jonathan Livingstone Seagull.
(You need to scroll down a few pages before its starts)
Haha! And I knew it would be free as well. Its a very quick read, just a short story, really.
But the philosophy on life here is as good as biblical.
Plenty of thanks to you for the reccomended book, Jonathan! (By the way, Livingstong is also Jonathan.) It is really good to have a free book. By the way, usually I try to buy a paperbook, because electronic books are harder to read for me mostly. However, many times it occurs that I want to understand what is in a certain book, while there's no option to do this. I remember the time I was visiting book-shops, and there was a chance to firstly page a book, and then to buy it - that was so cool. Some internet-bookshops propose an option to view first 12-20 pages, and sometimes the content of the book. And do thank that the book isn't large, however - there is something so amazing about this book - this is indeed not hard to read! Without any doubts it is a true treasure for me! |
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Post by jonbain on May 5, 2023 21:24:30 GMT
I recently read "Alaska" (by James Michener)
and it begins with a lengthy description of how Alaska
was formed by numerous mountain-ranges which collided
together from all parts of the world after their continental
plates congested in that piece of land.
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