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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 21, 2023 19:51:59 GMT
Honestly it doesn't seem logical or something. Yes, it is not pleasure when someone calls you in a certain way, but on the other hand maybe via jokes people live and interact. Humour is a kind of interaction. I remember I thought about get sympathies from a girl I liked, and when we were both in one company (a group of same ages people) I tried to make some jokes. Of course polite ones, and sometimes not too polite, but the humour was the one that made us (not only her and me) be united. The same is about the other guys. For me it becomes extremely rare to have friends. Actually I had friend only in school and may be that they were not friends at all. Anyway, I never liked any companies, because they usually were for start any relationships, to get new friends, or kinda. As an introvert the loneliness was always my favourite friend, but even this fact did stop me on making jokes. The Internet in my opinion is the heaven, where you create false accounts, and write whatever you want to almost anyone. You can offend or to make jokes, and this is what I call the true freedom of speech. Strong words, blames, accusations, obscene language – all of that and more is a very important thing that allows us being ourselves. And maybe jokes are the best way to get along to each other. Even sarcasm jokes are just words, nothing to worry about. The more jokes the less problems. And the best is to be able to joke on yourself.
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Post by Polaris on Mar 22, 2023 8:49:24 GMT
Honestly it doesn't seem logical or something. Yes, it is not pleasure when someone calls you in a certain way, but on the other hand maybe via jokes people live and interact. Humour is a kind of interaction. I remember I thought about get sympathies from a girl I liked, and when we were both in one company (a group of same ages people) I tried to make some jokes. Of course polite ones, and sometimes not too polite, but the humour was the one that made us (not only her and me) be united. The same is about the other guys. For me it becomes extremely rare to have friends. Actually I had friend only in school and may be that they were not friends at all. Anyway, I never liked any companies, because they usually were for start any relationships, to get new friends, or kinda. As an introvert the loneliness was always my favourite friend, but even this fact did stop me on making jokes. The Internet in my opinion is the heaven, where you create false accounts, and write whatever you want to almost anyone. You can offend or to make jokes, and this is what I call the true freedom of speech. Strong words, blames, accusations, obscene language – all of that and more is a very important thing that allows us being ourselves. And maybe jokes are the best way to get along to each other. Even sarcasm jokes are just words, nothing to worry about. The more jokes the less problems. And the best is to be able to joke on yourself. People are usually offended by jokes because jokes make a caricature picture in which the image of a person is comically distorted. |
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Post by jonbain on Mar 22, 2023 9:53:34 GMT
Honest jokes, are one thing too,
but some people use the guise of jokes to try and instigate.
But even if i do feel insulted by a joke,
the best way to deal with it is just make an even funnier retort.
That requires imagination, as does humour itself require this.
Some people it seems are simply incapable of such feats though.
But how often do we see 'stand up comedians' who are simply
paid cynics, whose job is to slander the church in order
that society become immoral?
Half the big name pro comedians fall into this category.
Yet nowhere do I hear black-hole humor?
After all they said nothing gets out of the black hole
even if it moves at the speed of light,
and they forgot
they said gravity gets out of it,
and in the same breath
give the nobel prize for the claim that gravity moves at
the very trajectory that light does.
I been telling that joke for half a decade now,
and still no big name comedian has even half the
imagination to comprehend the joke,
let alone repeat it.
They would rather pretend that their gender disorder
was caused by 'the priest'. How often do we hear
that unfunny lie echoed by the cackling of
those that worship
the black hole.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 5, 2023 20:09:16 GMT
Honest jokes, are one thing too, but some people use the guise of jokes to try and instigate. But even if i do feel insulted by a joke, the best way to deal with it is just make an even funnier retort. That requires imagination, as does humour itself require this. Some people it seems are simply incapable of such feats though. But how often do we see 'stand up comedians' who are simply paid cynics, whose job is to slander the church in order that society become immoral? Half the big name pro comedians fall into this category. Yet nowhere do I hear black-hole humor? After all they said nothing gets out of the black hole even if it moves at the speed of light, and they forgot they said gravity gets out of it, and in the same breath give the nobel prize for the claim that gravity moves at the very trajectory that light does. I been telling that joke for half a decade now, and still no big name comedian has even half the imagination to comprehend the joke, let alone repeat it. They would rather pretend that their gender disorder was caused by 'the priest'. How often do we hear that unfunny lie echoed by the cackling of those that worship the black hole. What do you think about a thought that the time or space is possible to curve? Is it possible? Time traveling? |
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Post by jonbain on Nov 8, 2023 5:56:37 GMT
Eugene 2.0 Space is curved, but not how the relativists say it is. Time travel is only in a forwards direction, thus it may be possible to slow down human metabolism and awaken many centuries in the future, only. Parallel dimensions certainly must exist. So one might be able to endure the illusion of time travel. But the idea that there are infinite parallel times with every possible world existing simultaneously, I find highly unlikely, but not impossible. How could we tell the difference between going back in time, and going to an artificially constructed retro-world which just appears as if it were the past, by design? An entire planet could be created with a timeline in which the Axis is victorious after ww2, and yet it would be made in the future. That is as good as it could get, and how could we tell the difference between real and illusionary time-travel? If you want to read more on why time must be unalterably linear as regards Einstein's claims in General Relativity: www.flight-light-and-spin.com/relativity/general-relativity%2Btime.htmSpecial Realtivity: www.flight-light-and-spin.com/relativity-revised.htm
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 8, 2023 6:55:12 GMT
Eugene 2.0 Space is curved, but not how the relativists say it is. Time travel is only in a forwards direction, thus it may be possible to slow down human metabolism and awaken many centuries in the future, only. Parallel dimensions certainly must exist. So one might be able to endure the illusion of time travel. But the idea that there are infinite parallel times with every possible world existing simultaneously, I find highly unlikely, but not impossible. How could we tell the difference between going back in time, and going to an artificially constructed retro-world which just appears as if it were the past, by design? An entire planet could be created with a timeline in which the Axis is victorious after ww2, and yet it would be made in the future. That is as good as it could get, and how could we tell the difference between real and illusionary time-travel? If you want to read more on why time must be unalterably linear as regards Einstein's claims in General Relativity: www.flight-light-and-spin.com/relativity/general-relativity%2Btime.htmSpecial Realtivity: www.flight-light-and-spin.com/relativity-revised.htm Thanks for the links again. Your proof really reveals many points, however I might be wrong about many details, so I'll try to retell it with my lower knowledge and abilities: a) let's say whatever time is it's not impossible to interpret it as a sequence, then this sequence isn't senseless if and only if there's at least one law that guarantees this sequence to be it (otherwise, our sequence would be just a random gathering of events) b) parallel universes drown us into confusion about parallel event, because let's say while in a certain universe A Hitler shots himself, in another one B Hitler's doesn't shot himself, which contradictory, however we are forced to accept it (so, if we accept such contradictions, what must hold us to throw such theories away?) c) okay, if (b) is not a clue, are there any mixed theories with sequences (aka linear sequence of events) and the time travel? If we try to imagine us in 2023 how can this be that we turn back to 1945 and prevent Hitler's shot of himself, while for the 1st 2023 Hitler is a suicide person who shot himself in 1945, then either we have sequence like this 2020-2021-2022-2023-1944-2024... or somehow shot and non-shot Hitler must appear in that sequence. If it would be possible for Hitler to appear in that way, that would be nonsense or plainly illogical way. d) however, let's imagine that somehow we've got such a sequence and it exists. So what kind of sequence is that? Such sequence must be senseless, because any events in it are random or kinda. From this point of view we don't have any parallel universes and no weird sequences in them. (Instead of 'weird' it would be better to use: 'lawless' or 'anarchy physics'.) |
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Post by jonbain on Nov 8, 2023 19:20:05 GMT
Eugene 2.0I think Beings eventually advance to the point where we could create such universes, much like we generate worlds on a much smaller scale in computer models. Just multiply everything beneath your finger tips - all such power - by a million times. In combination with hoards of 3D printers, etc... Then do that a million years into the future... How short is a million years? How small is the number 1 000 000? 10^10..........
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 8, 2023 20:28:59 GMT
Eugene 2.0I think Beings eventually advance to the point where we could create such universes, much like we generate worlds on a much smaller scale in computer models. Just multiply everything beneath your finger tips - all such power - by a million times. In combination with hoards of 3D printers, etc... Then do that a million years into the future... How short is a million years? How small is the number 1 000 000? 10^10.......... Even the smallest thing is bigger, than anything that smaller to it. Any size may be taken relatively as a size A is bigger or smaller, than a size B. So, 10^10 years is a big number for us, not for some stars or galaxies. Surely there are such things Freud or Rorschach mentioned when one image appears to be a young woman and an old hag, or we can see a rabbit or a duck in one image. So, in this case all the elements in our universe may be taken in N^N possible combinations, i.e. as N^N possible world. I wouldn't believe in this, because I don't think the universe is a purposeless, or pointless. For me our existence isn't empty or senseless. At least the very fact that we're alive even for a short time is the sign to be endlessly thankful to God for it. I also wouldn't agree with those who claim that there are horrible life conditions, and that some people have been suffering all their lives. I wouldn't agree with that because, on one hand, if to compare to exist even a second, or not to exist, the answer is obvious; on the other hand, most persons among them want to live despite their pain. |
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Post by jonbain on Nov 9, 2023 5:56:14 GMT
Eugene 2.0 I think Beings eventually advance to the point where we could create such universes, much like we generate worlds on a much smaller scale in computer models. Just multiply everything beneath your finger tips - all such power - by a million times. In combination with hoards of 3D printers, etc... Then do that a million years into the future... How short is a million years? How small is the number 1 000 000? 10^10.......... Even the smallest thing is bigger, than anything that smaller to it. Any size may be taken relatively as a size A is bigger or smaller, than a size B. So, 10^10 years is a big number for us, not for some stars or galaxies. Surely there are such things Freud or Rorschach mentioned when one image appears to be a young woman and an old hag, or we can see a rabbit or a duck in one image. So, in this case all the elements in our universe may be taken in N^N possible combinations, i.e. as N^N possible world. I wouldn't believe in this, because I don't think the universe is a purposeless, or pointless. For me our existence isn't empty or senseless. At least the very fact that we're alive even for a short time is the sign to be endlessly thankful to God for it. I also wouldn't agree with those who claim that there are horrible life conditions, and that some people have been suffering all their lives. I wouldn't agree with that because, on one hand, if to compare to exist even a second, or not to exist, the answer is obvious; on the other hand, most persons among them want to live despite their pain.
How can we know what some other person's pain even is? Some howl and yowl for what seems like nothing, and others endure grotesque torture, even for entertainment.
All unpleasant states of mind exist as juxtaposition to their corresponding pleasant states of mind.
There is no joy in a universe where there is only joy.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 9, 2023 11:59:48 GMT
Even the smallest thing is bigger, than anything that smaller to it. Any size may be taken relatively as a size A is bigger or smaller, than a size B. So, 10^10 years is a big number for us, not for some stars or galaxies. Surely there are such things Freud or Rorschach mentioned when one image appears to be a young woman and an old hag, or we can see a rabbit or a duck in one image. So, in this case all the elements in our universe may be taken in N^N possible combinations, i.e. as N^N possible world. I wouldn't believe in this, because I don't think the universe is a purposeless, or pointless. For me our existence isn't empty or senseless. At least the very fact that we're alive even for a short time is the sign to be endlessly thankful to God for it. I also wouldn't agree with those who claim that there are horrible life conditions, and that some people have been suffering all their lives. I wouldn't agree with that because, on one hand, if to compare to exist even a second, or not to exist, the answer is obvious; on the other hand, most persons among them want to live despite their pain.
How can we know what some other person's pain even is? Some howl and yowl for what seems like nothing, and others endure grotesque torture, even for entertainment.
All unpleasant states of mind exist as juxtaposition to their corresponding pleasant states of mind.
There is no joy in a universe where there is only joy.
Can't say I fully agree with it, since there's a pain limit for any ordinary person (without extra abilities) to resist. Even fear – pain with no interruption into the organism – can make us panic, do different things, etc. The same is about sadness or depression. I wouldn't deny pain, but I cannot disagree that for some people to bring pain is a life. As they say there are sadists and masochists, so if there are ones, the limits of pain are flawed. And even with that each one in the stomatological room requires some N2O or the special injure to decrease the level on pain; the same is about anesthesiologal things. |
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Post by jonbain on Nov 11, 2023 8:28:56 GMT
How can we know what some other person's pain even is? Some howl and yowl for what seems like nothing, and others endure grotesque torture, even for entertainment.
All unpleasant states of mind exist as juxtaposition to their corresponding pleasant states of mind.
There is no joy in a universe where there is only joy.
Can't say I fully agree with it, since there's a pain limit for any ordinary person (without extra abilities) to resist. Even fear – pain with no interruption into the organism – can make us panic, do different things, etc. The same is about sadness or depression. I wouldn't deny pain, but I cannot disagree that for some people to bring pain is a life. As they say there are sadists and masochists, so if there are ones, the limits of pain are flawed. And even with that each one in the stomatological room requires some N2O or the special injure to decrease the level on pain; the same is about anesthesiologal things.
The vast majority of what most people call 'pain' is in fact, psychological shock and panic attack.
Mind over matter?
or are our minds mere epiphenomenal consequences of "neurons in the brain"?
All evil and pain is but illusion and shadow. Just because the illusion is powerful, does not make it impossible to overcome, but if we cannot by will overcome it, then we are but pawns in a material machine.
The body is but a shadow of the soul.
Choose your metaphysical perspective, and realize its consequences.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 11, 2023 10:51:10 GMT
Can't say I fully agree with it, since there's a pain limit for any ordinary person (without extra abilities) to resist. Even fear – pain with no interruption into the organism – can make us panic, do different things, etc. The same is about sadness or depression. I wouldn't deny pain, but I cannot disagree that for some people to bring pain is a life. As they say there are sadists and masochists, so if there are ones, the limits of pain are flawed. And even with that each one in the stomatological room requires some N2O or the special injure to decrease the level on pain; the same is about anesthesiologal things.
The vast majority of what most people call 'pain' is in fact, psychological shock and panic attack.
Mind over matter?
or are our minds mere epiphenomenal consequences of "neurons in the brain"?
All evil and pain is but illusion and shadow. Just because the illusion is powerful, does not make it impossible to overcome, but if we cannot by will overcome it, then we are but pawns in a material machine.
The body is but a shadow of the soul.
Choose your metaphysical perspective, and realize its consequences.
Oh, you are right, indeed. Now I see my fault in the previous thinking. Exactly, if there were pain, there were physical evil, and if there were such, there were something God couldn't do. Since God is omnipotent, He is able to do anything, that's why He can turn evil into good, and vice versa. However, I cannot put away a thought that we are unable to see some things, because it was us who wanted to eat the fruit of good and evil, while instead it resolved into what we've got now – we don't know many things, and cannot value many things correctly, except for putting some efforts to it to see. |
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