What Exorcisms Looked Like In The Fifteenth Century

An invisible oogly boogly monster out to destroy you?
Reminiscent of a virus, I'd say...

So medieval exorcism is much the same as virology and other medical quackery today.
Just not as shiny and white and polished.
A bit more gothic nuance.
Better music.

That is so stupid "those are all fake gods and my book that's not as old as theirs and contains copies of there stories circular reasons to me that it's the real one and those 5200 other religions just happen to be fake even though I have nothing that makes my religion better then theirs" come on man wake up

 "just realized. Your name is a blasphemy against my God."
ohh no I offend you by using a term that existed before your god or the religion that was made by man started to use it I'm so so not sorry.

"Being knowledgeable in Ancient Near Eastern cultures, I instantly recognized the the term El but knowing nothing about Indian culture I didn't recognize what Maya was until just now researching India."

yes my name means God of elusion congratulations, but I doubt you will ever figure out why I picked such a name because it would require you to be able to think outside of the book I mean box and you can't seem to do that, at least not yet anyway.

"Anyways your run on sentence betrays a profound ignorance of what I believe about about other religions"

I was just going off of what you just said so if I have the wrong impression then it's because you said the wrong things


"and how the stories of Genesis 1-11 interact with the Mesopotamian myths it has similarities to."

and many other religions that pre date Christianity and Judaism .


"I'd love to discuss such things with someone, but not with you "

because I can see through the religious spell because I've been a Christian and broken the spell and am able to see the truth now and that frustrates you because your programing feels threatened and so survival mode kicks in .

"unless you 1. Calm down, " dude I'm calm like I've said several times already, I'm calm I don't let anything from this website or any other philosophy website get to me why should it? these are just discussions , sticks and stones remember? .


"stop insulting people,"

I'm not insulting anybody I'm sorry if you feel like your beliefs are stupid that's not my fault.

"and discuss these topics like an adult"

I'm probably the only one in here that's even married with kids so let's stop with the age belittling constantly ok?


"and 2. learn to think rationally"

really? you literally just said in your previous post that your god that you have 0 reason for being more important or right is right because you say so despite there being evidence to the contrary sooo practice what you preach please.

"using valid sources to back up your claims and form your opinions in the first place rather than believing every dubious fringe person who rants about these subjects that comes along just because they say something against the mainstream ie, learn to think critically and not like a hipster."

hypocrite much? you believe in groupe think which is the the exact opposite of critical thinking and you believe ridiculous non-realistic claims made by dubious people that are unknown from some French time frame unconfirmable I mean it's like your ordered a hypocrite Pizza XXL and ate it all by yourself and there's no leftovers!

"The first thing, you may be able to manage but the second thing I think will be harder for you to do, and that is quite the shame because without it you're unteachable. Goodbye and good day"

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Well, the Catholics still do exorcisms, but I'm assuming that you're talking about the barbarity involved? A couple reasons. The first is that we actually understand mental illnesses better today than we did then, and the Catholic church has a very rigorous process for sorting out people who are mentally ill from people who are actually demon possessed. Secondly, the only country that the Catholic church has substantial political and cultural power in, in the same manner it did in the Middle Ages is its own country in Vatican city.

I don't think in this post Enlightenment world, where the Catholic church already has something of an image problem, that any country is going to tolerate the church committing such atrocities. There are those who already see it as a Medieval anachronism, a remnant of a more barbaric and superstitious age. Torturing people during an exorcism will not help things in that regard.

Yes, but didn't their differention among those ill or possessed not matter to local authorities then or now? I seem to remember that despite what they believed as in saying the person was possessed that the authorities sometimes didn't care and arrested them after the exorcism if there was harm especially death. Unless I am off on my Catholic history.

There does exist a spiritual dimension to mental illness and other illnesses much of the time as well as a physical/biological one. The two interact somehow in a way that answers the main question posed of philosophical dualism. Supernaturally.