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Post by lamburk on Jun 8, 2022 6:01:41 GMT
The Afanasievo culture, or Afanasevo culture (Afanasevan culture) (Russian: Афанасьевская культура Afanas'yevskaya kul'tura), is the earliest known archaeological culture of south Siberia, occupying the Minusinsk Basin and the Altai Mountains during the eneolithic era, c. 3300 to 2500 BCE. It is named after a nearby mountain, Gora Afanasieva (Russian: Гора Афанасьева, lit. 'Afanasiev's mountain') in what is now Bogradsky District, Khakassia, Russia.[2] David W. Anthony believes that the Afanasevan population was descended from people who migrated c. 3700–3300 BCE across the Eurasian Steppe from the pre-Yamnaya Repin culture of the Don-Volga region.[3] Because of its geographical location and dating, Anthony and earlier scholars such as Leo Klejn, J. P. Mallory and Victor H. Mair have linked the Afanasevans to the Proto-Tocharian language.[4][5][6][7] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afanasievo_culture |
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Post by ⲟⲩⲏⲣ ⲡⲁϩⲧⲉ on Jun 9, 2022 20:52:24 GMT
The Afanasievo culture, or Afanasevo culture (Afanasevan culture) (Russian: Афанасьевская культура Afanas'yevskaya kul'tura), is the earliest known archaeological culture of south Siberia, occupying the Minusinsk Basin and the Altai Mountains during the eneolithic era, c. 3300 to 2500 BCE. It is named after a nearby mountain, Gora Afanasieva (Russian: Гора Афанасьева, lit. 'Afanasiev's mountain') in what is now Bogradsky District, Khakassia, Russia.[2] David W. Anthony believes that the Afanasevan population was descended from people who migrated c. 3700–3300 BCE across the Eurasian Steppe from the pre-Yamnaya Repin culture of the Don-Volga region.[3] Because of its geographical location and dating, Anthony and earlier scholars such as Leo Klejn, J. P. Mallory and Victor H. Mair have linked the Afanasevans to the Proto-Tocharian language.[4][5][6][7] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afanasievo_culture Interesting thread you started here. I haven't been on here since last year, but I decided to return to this forum and see what was new. I read an article in a history publication magazine several months ago, highlighting some of the main archaeological discoveries made by anthropologist who specialize in prehistoric and Bronze Age archaeology. One article was written by Marc De Santis on the Indo-Europeans and the origin of wagons and wheels: it was actually very interesting how the technological revolution of the "wheel" and "wagon" emerged from a group of nomadic pastoralist inhabiting southern Russia, that likely spoke P.I.E.(Proto Indo-European) before being disseminated throughout the rest of the world, eventually making it's why to China, India and Egypt. De Santis introduces the Indo-European family via the important contribution in the field of linguistics made by Sir William Jones, who compared Sanskrit, Greek and Latin: a few authors, experts in the field of genetics and archaeology like Colin Renfrew, David W. Anthony and David Reich were adduced in De Santis' article. David Reich a leading expert in the field of genetics, published his book Who We Are and How We Got Here:Ancient DNA and the New Science of the Human Past in 2018, according to his research the ancient inhabitants of southern Russia, known as the Yamnaya culture correspond genetically to modern northwestern Europeans.  That said... the reconstruction of this particular Afanasevan male is a little baffling to me: Afanasevans would in my opinion have to look more like Yamnaya, to whom modern northwestern Europeans have an affinity genetically. The phenotype of the Afanasievo population would have to be more Nordic/Nordic-Iranian/Pamirid like in appearance wouldn't it? something like this I would think...   The reconstruction of the Afanasievo guy looks a little too brown... like an Iraqi guy or something... |
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Post by ⲟⲩⲏⲣ ⲡⲁϩⲧⲉ on Jun 9, 2022 21:05:05 GMT
PHENOTYPE - AFANASIEVO  Here is another example of what I think is more accurate to the Afanasievo population. Fortunately I just received a copy of David W. Anthony's The Horse The Wheel And Language in superb condition: a book I'm looking forward to reading! |
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Post by ⲟⲩⲏⲣ ⲡⲁϩⲧⲉ on Jun 10, 2022 0:14:19 GMT
 Here is another example of what I think is a more accurate look of the Afanasievo population. Fortunately I just received a copy of David W. Anthony's The Horse The Wheel And Language in superb condition: a book I'm looking forward to reading! |
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Post by lamburk on Jun 10, 2022 4:17:55 GMT
//That said... the reconstruction of this particular Afanasevan male is a little baffling to me: Afanasevans would in my opinion have to look more like Yamnaya, to whom modern northwestern Europeans have an affinity genetically.
The phenotype of the Afanasievo population would have to be more Nordic/Nordic-Iranian/Pamirid like in appearance wouldn't it? //
Allentoft and coauthors (2015) study also confirms that the Afanasevo culture was replaced by the second wave of Indo-European migrations from the Andronovo culture during late Bronze Age and early Iron Age.[1][note 2] The Yamnaya and Afanasevo cultures were also found to be genetically distinct from the Andronovo culture.[1]
This is more likely a pre-P.I.E culture, before IE culture started to spread. This is my guess, though.
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