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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 17, 2021 16:29:36 GMT
Last 500 years science brand only bad news for society that there is no above anything, and that the world is just some dancing particles. Anyway, I see no real nihilism behind. I'd say that the nihilism is a destination for outlaws or totally despared. Ordinary people keep living in their own schizophrenia. Indeed, if you know all is bad and there is no hope, but you're still laughing, then your diagnosis is obvious. Emotions are not irrelevant.
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Post by joustos on Dec 18, 2021 21:35:41 GMT
Last 500 years science brand only bad news for society that there is no above anything, and that the world is just some dancing particles. Anyway, I see no real nihilism behind. I'd say that the nihilism is a destination for outlaws or totally despared. Ordinary people keep living in their own schizophrenia. Indeed, if you know all is bad and there is no hope, but you're still laughing, then your diagnosis is obvious. Emotions are not irrelevant. As somebody said, laughter is the best medicine.... Anyway, how can anybody say that all is bad. I am sure that all that is bad is not the product of science (or of scientists). If you follow the Bible, you must believe that whatever is good or bad [in nature] is the result of divine governance. All bad things happen as a divine punishment. Nihilism {what is it?] is predicted in the Book of Apocalypse[Revelation], which was composed by some demented person who believed in the beginning and the end of the world. Please, don't make me laugh. // Religionistsand scientists have am ESCHATOLOGY, ESKHATOLOGY {a theory about last/extreme things, but then, don't we all ? -- since we believe in a personal beginning and end. Eskhatologies of empires and of civilizations have been written! |
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Dec 18, 2021 22:05:10 GMT
Last 500 years science brand only bad news for society that there is no above anything, and that the world is just some dancing particles. Anyway, I see no real nihilism behind. I'd say that the nihilism is a destination for outlaws or totally despared. Ordinary people keep living in their own schizophrenia. Indeed, if you know all is bad and there is no hope, but you're still laughing, then your diagnosis is obvious. Emotions are not irrelevant. As somebody said, laughter is the best medicine.... Anyway, how can anybody say that all is bad. I am sure that all that is bad is not the product of science (or of scientists). If you follow the Bible, you must believe that whatever is good or bad [in nature] is the result of divine governance. All bad things happen as a divine punishment. Nihilism {what is it?] is predicted in the Book of Apocalypse[Revelation], which was composed by some demented person who believed in the beginning and the end of the world. Please, don't make me laugh. Bad things like floods, plagues, and famine happen because of the common man's and his jealous rulers' insults, ingratitude, and exploitation of the only truly supernatural thing in the world: the creative genius of High IQs. So Voltaire's take on the Lisbon earthquake missed the point. The damage would have been trivial if the society had elevated these few men above Nature and all the other false gods. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 18, 2021 22:39:46 GMT
Last 500 years science brand only bad news for society that there is no above anything, and that the world is just some dancing particles. Anyway, I see no real nihilism behind. I'd say that the nihilism is a destination for outlaws or totally despared. Ordinary people keep living in their own schizophrenia. Indeed, if you know all is bad and there is no hope, but you're still laughing, then your diagnosis is obvious. Emotions are not irrelevant. As somebody said, laughter is the best medicine.... Anyway, how can anybody say that all is bad. I am sure that all that is bad is not the product of science (or of scientists). If you follow the Bible, you must believe that whatever is good or bad [in nature] is the result of divine governance. All bad things happen as a divine punishment. Nihilism {what is it?] is predicted in the Book of Apocalypse[Revelation], which was composed by some demented person who believed in the beginning and the end of the world. Please, don't make me laugh. // Religionistsand scientists have am ESCHATOLOGY, ESKHATOLOGY {a theory about last/extreme things, but then, don't we all ? -- since we believe in a personal beginning and end. Eskhatologies of empires and of civilizations have been written! It's not like one cannot laughing, but rather laugh when it is a sincere feeling, and be sad when it is a truly feeling. Wrong emotions aren't a good sign. I think the Book of Apocalypse says many wise and decent thoughts, and to compare, I guess, an average modern person is more demented by using phones all the time, than people from even near past. Usually, pejoratives use to blame someone or to stigmatize 'em. Christianity had been blamed by pagans and other ones, because they didn't want to see the good side of it. I didn't want to say "all is bad" literally, cause this doesn't bring much sense; what I was gonna say a little bit of nihilism wasn't bad. Vice versa, some pessimistic views can be helpful to prevent from the terrorism. What the pagans, muslims, etc brand except for cannibalism, human-sacrifising, or terrorism? While Christianity proved to be the one decent example among anything others. No, Bible is just Bible. It doesn't mean to protect God is to protect Bible. Bible is a tool, not God himself, so I'm not pro-Ptotestant. Also, I don't believe there is a central person who is a direct minister of God, so I'm not pro-Catholics. All I believe there shouldn't be changes to the Liturgy or at least Christians should try to be as much as possible careful with how we should follow Christ. So, you can blame me for protecting me the Liturgy or the Traditions, but ask me why am I trying to protect it, and I'll answer that it's the same the first Christians did – to be able to participate Christ. How the first Christians did it? By the Liturgy or meeting together. The Trafitions are not perfect, at least there are no needless debates how to rearrange it. Jesus Christ said: "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there among them" (Matthews 18:20). As first Christians did the Orthodox tried to follow. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 18, 2021 22:56:17 GMT
As somebody said, laughter is the best medicine.... Anyway, how can anybody say that all is bad. I am sure that all that is bad is not the product of science (or of scientists). If you follow the Bible, you must believe that whatever is good or bad [in nature] is the result of divine governance. All bad things happen as a divine punishment. Nihilism {what is it?] is predicted in the Book of Apocalypse[Revelation], which was composed by some demented person who believed in the beginning and the end of the world. Please, don't make me laugh. Bad things like floods, plagues, and famine happen because of the common man's and his jealous rulers' insults, ingratitude, and exploitation of the only truly supernatural thing in the world: the creative genius of High IQs. So Voltaire's take on the Lisbon earthquake missed the point. The damage would have been trivial if the society had elevated these few men above Nature and all the other false gods. It is not a sign or anything about the earthquake in Lisbon. I read about it also, and Russo had an alternative opinion to it. Anyway, I guess there shouldn't have been even that discussion, because in the first centuries many many Christians died in genocides and other acts. Now nobody is gonna remember it, but it has happened. So, why God left His followers died? Because of His unmercifulness? No, because the death is just a view. There are no dead for God. The death is a human invention. The savages from the greyest and beard times had no deaths: their tombs and their beliefs could prove it. The death was born only in our times by the ones who cannot accept death and were afraid of it too much. The spirit of the warrior is the stronger, than the deadliest weapons. |
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Post by jonbain on Dec 19, 2021 8:48:50 GMT
The word "schizophrenia" is itself schizophrenic ;
each person means something else by it ; but the least confusing
explanation of the word is that it is a state of mind that is
chaotic and lacking in definition.
Why all these aimless minds greedily lying to try and grab a
little bit more of the world to pretend that they briefly own it?
For what are they REALLY looking? Even as they find ever yet more
bad karma.
It was by studying the minds of the mindless that I realized
that mental disorder ; and ethical catastrophe all had at their
center a lack of basic Christian ethics.
Even as the entire world of psychology turns itself into a
very Jungian shadow of contrary purpose ;
we speak to each other and affirm that a divine revelation
is the only vanguard against nihilism - a state of material gain
with no form or structure ; but instead devolving into the
degeneration of past success ; a society that twists the old forms
into a formless morass of ego ...
even church takes on the face of anti-christ
... and within this we hope for ego-death and a real spiritual advance
of society ... before the entire social structure collapses into
a medieval feud ; technology begins to regress and society becomes
a dystopia that eventually eclipses itself into nuclear war ...
again
like it has every 100 000 years for the last million years at least ;
as the una-bombers of the world are pressing the nuke button out of
sheer lack of purpose - in a slow motion death-throng of murderous
anti-medicine.
some might look for a heaven on earth even as we see these ancient
forms of science being twisted into the very opposite of their intention ;
nihilism becomes progress in the tortured mind for its nothingness
seeks to obliterate the horror of the devolution of that mind
and still you can keep digging deeper into the recess of your soul
challenging every dark ghost of fear and wrongness ; knowing
with a subconscious faith that there is a bottom to the horror-show...
but what of the billions out there who perpetuate the formless?
when they come knocking on your door demanding something?
give them what they need
or give them what they want
i gave pearls to swine ;
because all i can see are swine
and all that i have
are pearls
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jan 6, 2022 22:13:14 GMT
Last 500 years science brand only bad news for society that there is no above anything, and that the world is just some dancing particles. Anyway, I see no real nihilism behind. I'd say that the nihilism is a destination for outlaws or totally despared. Ordinary people keep living in their own schizophrenia. Indeed, if you know all is bad and there is no hope, but you're still laughing, then your diagnosis is obvious. Emotions are not irrelevant. 1. Those dancing particles resulted in the phenomenon of the belief in God; belief in God evolved from particles thus is as real as the particles which compose it. 2. Particles evolve in consciousness, consciousness as the relationship of particles reflects back on particles, particles reflect on particles thus particles are self aware. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 24, 2022 14:53:53 GMT
The word "schizophrenia" is itself schizophrenic ; each person means something else by it ; but the least confusing explanation of the word is that it is a state of mind that is chaotic and lacking in definition. Why all these aimless minds greedily lying to try and grab a little bit more of the world to pretend that they briefly own it? For what are they REALLY looking? Even as they find ever yet more bad karma. It was by studying the minds of the mindless that I realized that mental disorder ; and ethical catastrophe all had at their center a lack of basic Christian ethics. Even as the entire world of psychology turns itself into a very Jungian shadow of contrary purpose ; we speak to each other and affirm that a divine revelation is the only vanguard against nihilism - a state of material gain with no form or structure ; but instead devolving into the degeneration of past success ; a society that twists the old forms into a formless morass of ego ... even church takes on the face of anti-christ ... and within this we hope for ego-death and a real spiritual advance of society ... before the entire social structure collapses into a medieval feud ; technology begins to regress and society becomes a dystopia that eventually eclipses itself into nuclear war ... again like it has every 100 000 years for the last million years at least ; as the una-bombers of the world are pressing the nuke button out of sheer lack of purpose - in a slow motion death-throng of murderous anti-medicine. some might look for a heaven on earth even as we see these ancient forms of science being twisted into the very opposite of their intention ; nihilism becomes progress in the tortured mind for its nothingness seeks to obliterate the horror of the devolution of that mind and still you can keep digging deeper into the recess of your soul challenging every dark ghost of fear and wrongness ; knowing with a subconscious faith that there is a bottom to the horror-show... but what of the billions out there who perpetuate the formless? when they come knocking on your door demanding something? give them what they need or give them what they want i gave pearls to swine ; because all i can see are swine and all that i have are pearls Yes. Maybe I went to far with that claim of mine. Can't say I was completely true. Sometimes I try to transcend my own position by some opposite counterarguments. It's like, you know, trying to check out how firm and good the castsle's walls are? I've seen a very good movie. I haven't seen anything since "Flying over the Cuckoo's nest". It was "Awakenings" (1990). |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jan 24, 2022 23:37:37 GMT
Last 500 years science brand only bad news for society that there is no above anything, and that the world is just some dancing particles. Anyway, I see no real nihilism behind. I'd say that the nihilism is a destination for outlaws or totally despared. Ordinary people keep living in their own schizophrenia. Indeed, if you know all is bad and there is no hope, but you're still laughing, then your diagnosis is obvious. Emotions are not irrelevant. [br Particles result in conscious, consciousness is aware of particles, thus particles are self aware. Meaning resides it self reflection as self reflection results in identity...meaning is identity. |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jan 25, 2022 2:30:46 GMT
The word "schizophrenia" is itself schizophrenic ; each person means something else by it ; but the least confusing explanation of the word is that it is a state of mind that is chaotic and lacking in definition. Why all these aimless minds greedily lying to try and grab a little bit more of the world to pretend that they briefly own it? For what are they REALLY looking? Even as they find ever yet more bad karma. It was by studying the minds of the mindless that I realized that mental disorder ; and ethical catastrophe all had at their center a lack of basic Christian ethics. Even as the entire world of psychology turns itself into a very Jungian shadow of contrary purpose ; we speak to each other and affirm that a divine revelation is the only vanguard against nihilism - a state of material gain with no form or structure ; but instead devolving into the degeneration of past success ; a society that twists the old forms into a formless morass of ego ... even church takes on the face of anti-christ ... and within this we hope for ego-death and a real spiritual advance of society ... before the entire social structure collapses into a medieval feud ; technology begins to regress and society becomes a dystopia that eventually eclipses itself into nuclear war ... again like it has every 100 000 years for the last million years at least ; as the una-bombers of the world are pressing the nuke button out of sheer lack of purpose - in a slow motion death-throng of murderous anti-medicine. some might look for a heaven on earth even as we see these ancient forms of science being twisted into the very opposite of their intention ; nihilism becomes progress in the tortured mind for its nothingness seeks to obliterate the horror of the devolution of that mind and still you can keep digging deeper into the recess of your soul challenging every dark ghost of fear and wrongness ; knowing with a subconscious faith that there is a bottom to the horror-show... but what of the billions out there who perpetuate the formless? when they come knocking on your door demanding something? give them what they need or give them what they want i gave pearls to swine ; because all i can see are swine and all that i have are pearls It's nice as you may think they are you can't eat pearls . remember that |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 25, 2022 16:21:48 GMT
Last 500 years science brand only bad news for society that there is no above anything, and that the world is just some dancing particles. Anyway, I see no real nihilism behind. I'd say that the nihilism is a destination for outlaws or totally despared. Ordinary people keep living in their own schizophrenia. Indeed, if you know all is bad and there is no hope, but you're still laughing, then your diagnosis is obvious. Emotions are not irrelevant. [br Particles result in conscious, consciousness is aware of particles, thus particles are self aware. Meaning resides it self reflection as self reflection results in identity...meaning is identity. I also think there's something about the identify. Just like we're spotting things matching them with each other... However, how can one compare two things at the beginning not having those qualities, properties, or abilities before? --- To match A with A one got to know how to match it If A is A, then this somehow must inform us about it. But let's imagine this: providing the process or correspondence (matching A with A...) if this process is a subconscious one or we cannot lure into it – we cannot guarantee A is really A. Else, how can we guarantee that?? |
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