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Post by -VITNI- on Dec 8, 2017 5:53:36 GMT
Physcologically, the mind and soul are the immaterial but seated in the pineal gland of the brain. The body is a material and mechanical machine. In Taoist beliefs, there resides two souls in a living embodiment - The body which naturally reincarnates and the soul which passes onto heaven. I believe the mind and soul are the same material lifeforce, living inside the pineal gland of the brain. Everywhere appears the trilogy of mind soul and body. Physical, non-physical and meta-physical. Just because we do not carry instruments of measurement for some non-physical things, does not necassarily mean that these things are meta-physcial. The supernatural can very well be something simply natural.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 18, 2017 12:08:38 GMT
The mind is just the force that helps man to think and Orient in life! The soul is the supernatural part of man! According to religious norms, after the end of material life, the soul goes into his world!
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Post by mitchell on Dec 18, 2017 12:10:22 GMT
Marduk: Two things. (1) The article you linked to is behind a pay-wall. (2) Everything you said can be interpreted as a scientific explanation for why the "soul" is not real,
Very interesting post. Do you think that this information accounts for VITNI's quaint views about the pineal gland?
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Post by mitchell on Dec 18, 2017 12:14:17 GMT
The mind is just the force that helps man to think and Orient in life! The soul is the supernatural part of man! According to religious norms, after the end of material life, the soul goes into his world! This is precisely what I question. I see no reason to posit a "soul" that is something separate from the mind, and certainly no reason tho think that anything survives the death of the brain. So, what reasons do you have for thinking otherwise?
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Post by -VITNI- on Dec 22, 2017 3:54:27 GMT
What I am saying in the most fundamental form of this thought I have begun to conceive is that the meta-physical is simply the non-physical.however, spirit still exists.because the spirit is non-physical, there is proof of this in nature, spirits can manipulate electromagnetics to communicate with us.
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Post by -VITNI- on Dec 22, 2017 3:57:33 GMT
The mind is just the force that helps man to think and Orient in life! The soul is the supernatural part of man! According to religious norms, after the end of material life, the soul goes into his world! This is precisely what I question. I see no reason to posit a "soul" that is something separate from the mind, and certainly no reason tho think that anything survives the death of the brain. So, what reasons do you have for thinking otherwise? Have you ever considered that the body reincarnates? Why not consciousness or personality with it? Especially being how all living organisms down to the molecule can carry behavioral patterns..
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Post by mitchell on Dec 22, 2017 16:26:35 GMT
This is precisely what I question. I see no reason to posit a "soul" that is something separate from the mind, and certainly no reason tho think that anything survives the death of the brain. So, what reasons do you have for thinking otherwise? Have you ever considered that the body reincarnates? Why not consciousness or personality with it? Especially being how all living organisms down to the molecule can carry behavioral patterns.. The body does not reincarnate; it rots.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 7:05:53 GMT
Read passions of the soul by rene Descartes. very insightful..no questions left
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Post by mitchell on Dec 23, 2017 17:13:46 GMT
For Mind or Soul, especially the Cartesian conception, read Gilbert Ryle, *The Concept of Mind*
For Emotion/Passion, read Robert C. Solomon, *The Passions*, or better yet, Martha C. Nussbaum, *Upheavals of Thought*
All very readable and very interesting.
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Post by sequel on Dec 23, 2017 23:55:19 GMT
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Post by supralycan on Dec 25, 2017 12:46:47 GMT
Physcologically, the mind and soul are the immaterial but seated in the pineal gland of the brain. The body is a material and mechanical machine. In Taoist beliefs, there resides two souls in a living embodiment - The body which naturally reincarnates and the soul which passes onto heaven. I believe the mind and soul are the same material lifeforce, living inside the pineal gland of the brain. Everywhere appears the trilogy of mind soul and body. Physical, non-physical and meta-physical. Just because we do not carry instruments of measurement for some non-physical things, does not necassarily mean that these things are meta-physcial. The supernatural can very well be something simply natural. For me i'm a vibe conciente qui sais agripper a un primate & do you know ovule create the bodies & sperm create colone skull & vibe life is sweet
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Post by thearistotelliancopt on Dec 25, 2017 17:59:15 GMT
Marduk, I agree with your analogy but it's not relevant to the topic. Nature is nothing more than the natural world. It is that which can be understood or studied using the scientific method. Whether the supernatural exists or not is a different story. I believe it does however my point was that to define the supernatural as part of the natural world is a contradiction.
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Post by mitchell on Dec 28, 2017 0:16:15 GMT
Perhaps the "supernatural" is that part of nature science hasn't been able to explain yet, emphasis on the "yet".
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