Define These Ukrainians

Clovis, I know you enough time, and I know you're a good guy, and you do have the sense of humour. Then why to stop having the sense this time?

Then, using the previous example I'd call you American-American. What do you think about this? =)

Do you consider being Ukrainian a matter of blood or culture and do you think that your hypothetical answer is a Ukrainian or an American attitude?

Unfortunately, because I've almost never been to the other countries, that's why it is very hard for me to say something sayable. I mean even if I told something I wouldn't sure I was right. There are too many obstacles on my way to decide. All I can say that I'm hold some attitudes. And I think that the only true white people on this Earth is as in US, so some in Scandinavian countries. There are no real true white people almost nowhere. But what do I understand by "the white people". I don't mean race, no I'd rather mean the culture and the spirit. Yes, the spirit. I think Jonbain is right taking into account the spiritual side. I want to underline that the spirit doesn't mean some mumbo-jumbo. No, what I understand (and by the way many others in the East Europe and Asia) is more closer to courage and will. Let's say what purposes are you hold? Do you able to express all of them? - Sometimes people can't do it. Just can't do it. Because not all the time we know where are we going by ourselves. And this path (by what we're moving to something) - is what being escorting by our will and our courage... In other words, that spirit of the true white men is their path, is their destiny, is their fate.

Interesting, is there a difference in these attitudes between Eastern and Western Europe? I was watching a comedian's video comparing Italians from Italy to Italian-Americans and reading the YouTube comments the European Italians took issue with American Italians calling themselves Italian-Americans or insinuating that they are Italian in any way saying that they are just American. I found this attitude strange as Italian-Americans are Italian by blood and they are culturally distinct from most everyday Americans from whatever region that they are residing retaining many Italian traditions passed down through their family for generations. Yes, they culturally diverged from the Italians in the mainland and became Americanized but as an ethnic group what would you call them other than Italian-Americans? Their culture is part Italian and part American. Anyways blood seemed to mean absolutely nothing to the Italians. Are these attitudes different between Eastern and Western Europe or is it just the typical Western European snobbishness toward Americans?

I don't think many Ukraininans will agree with you on that culture doesn't mean anything to Ukrainians. If to look at this closer, then who are Ukrainians or the other ones if not the folks who have been culturaly closed. I mean, folks in past were not allowing the marriages between brothers and sisters, and their closer relatives, but rather they marry on the other folks with more closer cultures. So, the culture is how people work and behave in past, is the style that get them be the folk. Withoug a culture there would be no folks, no nations. That's why eliminating the culture is the same is eliminating the folk or the nation itself. Some Russian morons try to do it by either denying Ukrainian language, or by denying Ukrainian traditions. And with that they (mostly Russians) that there were no Ukrainian traditions, and that all the traditions that we used to call the Ukrainian were just Great-Russian or some others; in other words, they're saying that we never had any own traditions of ours. So, when to say that you're against the cultural understanding of Ukraine you risk to deny Ukraine at all, because - contrary to your thoughts - genetically we could be slightly different. Just think about it, at the beggining there could be the folks with the other DNA, and they started to chant and to work together, and sonner they joined the main folk, and their DNA's being mixed. So, how can we say that DNA of Ukrainians should be this or that? No, it's not like that. All what we can say that - most of those who are Ukrainians now, and live in the certain territory have such and such DNA. That's all. We can order what DNA should a Ukrainian has. That would be absurd. Just what if a boy from Chile would live since his birth in Ukraine, and being raised, being schooled, etc, and after that should we say that he was not a Ukrainian? Maybe he would be less Ukrainian, than the local citizens, but we shouldn't say that he was not the one. Finally, the blood doesn't the one and the only measure of who's Ukrainian, and who's not (and it is the same for the other nationalities; or whatever who thinks about it), and the culture is important regarding its context, because exactly the context and the working style was the one that helped the nation became the nation, so that's why abanding the culture is one of the riskier thing for the nation.