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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 13, 2021 20:03:18 GMT
All abstractions are real as abstractions, they act as the filters through which we move and interact through reality. The concept of God, as a filter for our actions, necessitates God as affecting the world empirically thus is empirical.
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Post by jonbain on Jul 13, 2021 22:06:56 GMT
But what is 'abstraction'?
Is it merely a process of 'distilling' information?
or
is it something beyond our awareness?
perhaps
its like a telescope and simply focuses a different type of info?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 13, 2021 22:38:05 GMT
But what is 'abstraction'? Is it merely a process of 'distilling' information? or is it something beyond our awareness? perhaps its like a telescope and simply focuses a different type of info? An abstraction is a summation of forms. For example the abstraction of "cat" is a summation of qualities. Abstraction is the root form of that which is empirical. |
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Post by jonbain on Jul 14, 2021 16:33:10 GMT
But what is 'abstraction'? Is it merely a process of 'distilling' information? or is it something beyond our awareness? perhaps its like a telescope and simply focuses a different type of info? An abstraction is a summation of forms. For example the abstraction of "cat" is a summation of qualities. Abstraction is the root form of that which is empirical. yeah fine, but what i am really asking is that: is abstraction something we see in the object? or do we impose that form on the object? or is it something so intrinsic as to be more real than the object? you see we can abstract in at least these three ways but we schlok those very different ideas into one word |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Aug 10, 2021 21:47:55 GMT
An abstraction is a summation of forms. For example the abstraction of "cat" is a summation of qualities. Abstraction is the root form of that which is empirical. yeah fine, but what i am really asking is that: is abstraction something we see in the object? or do we impose that form on the object? or is it something so intrinsic as to be more real than the object? you see we can abstract in at least these three ways but we schlok those very different ideas into one word 1. If an abstraction is a summation of forms, and a given object is one of these forms, then we observe a grade of the abstraction through the physical (ie changing) form. 2. We impose forms any time we categorize. However within these categories changes occur thus resulting in any form of localization of one phenomenon from many as the formation of a generality or rather abstraction. To localize an object to a specific form is to create a generality with this generality being the boundary through which changes occurs. A generality is a summation of changes, to create a generalities is to seperate one group of changes from another with this in itself being a boundary of change thus a "generality of generalities" occurs. 3. If a higher reality exists through the object where the object is part of this reality but not the totality of it then the object exists as a reflection or rather grade of this higher reality. |
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