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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 11:21:23 GMT
There are no thoughts without feeling, but there are feeling without thoughts.
Only feeling is the true fundament of thought. If you feel, you can thought, and feeling is the origin of thought, in a certain sense.
But the true origin of thought is the world as we see in our minds. But feeling is the inner nature where the thoughts mature.
When we express a thought, there are always a certain feeling. So, in conclusion, thought is the true essence of feeling, which exemplifies the very nature of the visible world.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 10, 2021 15:36:30 GMT
There are no thoughts without feeling, but there are feeling without thoughts. Only feeling is the true fundament of thought. If you feel, you can thought, and feeling is the origin of thought, in a certain sense. But the true origin of thought is the world as we see in our minds. But feeling is the inner nature where the thoughts mature. When we express a thought, there are always a certain feeling. So, in conclusion, thought is the true essence of feeling, which exemplifies the very nature of the visible world. I talked to a woman who wrote instead of cogito ergo sum feeling ergo sum. I asked why? She said almost the same your post presents. I guess it seems to be true. But what's my point of this? I guess if to compare our thoughts to logic, so we cannot avoid to use feelings at least once, because to achieve a result, or to make an inference we have to draw a line somewhere to say where is that result or an inference is. It can be said in a different way: if not to put a dot (a point) at the end of the sentence, and never do any nodding, or pauses in talks, we never know where to stop, and where is our thought ended. Indeed, if I stop to put dots and any other signs and start to type as like it is nothing, but a wall draws, it becomes problematic to understand where is one part, and where is another one. Those 'pauses' are the same as our physiological exhales. So, if logic subordinates our physiology, and the last one subordinates to feelings, then, taking into account that logic is what resembles to our thoughts, it is impossible to think not using any feelings during the process.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 23:36:36 GMT
I agree my dear Eugene. But there is another way to feel that includes inteligence without thought and I am not talking about emotional inteligence.
But our language is poor to say about things of the reign of the heavens. We have to work hard to begin to say about those things.
God wish for ours luck and discipline!
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 12, 2021 0:51:34 GMT
I agree my dear Eugene. But there is another way to feel that includes inteligence without thought and I am not talking about emotional inteligence. But our language is poor to say about things of the reign of the heavens. We have to work hard to begin to say about those things. God wish for ours luck and discipline! I'll be glad to know what other routes we've got, and does everyone have them? Were you talking about some spiritual or intuitive forms of cognitive system in a human nature/body? Well, perhaps my questions might appear as non-serious or naïve, but it's just because of – as you've already said – language barriers, and because of my arrogance in some or maybe all knowledge about knowledge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 2:49:19 GMT
Maybe.
There are ancient languages more perfect than ours. But it's a controversial topic.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jan 12, 2021 8:17:55 GMT
Maybe. There are ancient languages more perfect than ours. But it's a controversial topic. The ancient Greek is considered as the visit card of a professional philosopher. Unfortunately I don't know it good. Instead, I wanted to direct in logic, that's why I half-banned the ancient Greek classes. Many philosophers would agree the ancient Greek is as the one of such languages you've mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 9:17:16 GMT
More or less. The semitic languages for example are of such poetry than surpass our best poets.
But, one more time, another controversial topic.
I had read Aristotle inspired by a spontaneous ideia and the reading on greek, and had the impression that the concepts in greek are one inside another, like a game of superposed parts.
Others languages I do not feel that impression.
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