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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Dec 17, 2020 4:50:33 GMT
If science does not pursue absolute truths then by default they are establishing facts which are eventually false. To build a moral system off of science is to build a moral system which will eventually change and leave itself open to the possibilities of violence being justifiable.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 19, 2020 4:18:17 GMT
Yes, people like the late Stephen Hawking think that science will replace philosophy and religion. That is one of the dumbest sentiments that I have ever heard from anyone. The facts of science can be interpreted in any number of ways. They do not in themselves lead to objective prescriptions on how we should behave morally or if we should behave morally at all, and the facts do change. The eugenics movement and the horrors of Nazi Germany were based on the scientific consensus at the time that the Nordic race was superior to all others.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Dec 20, 2020 1:02:41 GMT
Yes, people like the late Stephen Hawking think that science will replace philosophy and religion. That is one of the dumbest sentiments that I have ever heard from anyone. The facts of science can be interpreted in any number of ways. They do not in themselves lead to objective prescriptions on how we should behave morally or if we should behave morally at all, and the facts do change. The eugenics movement and the horrors of Nazi Germany were based on the scientific consensus at the time that the Nordic race was superior to all others. Yes, well put. |
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Post by joustos on Dec 20, 2020 16:39:27 GMT
Hi, Fellows, I have never seen a system of morality based on science. If you know of any, can you provide a reference? Thank you. By the way, By "morality" do you mean Jewish Morality, Christian Morality, N.A.T.O. morality, or some other???? Is there any morality aside from some positive(given) system of LAW???? |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Dec 20, 2020 16:54:46 GMT
Hi, Fellows, I have never seen a system of morality based on science. If you know of any, can you provide a reference? Thank you. By the way, By "morality" do you mean Jewish Morality, Christian Morality, N.A.T.O. morality, or some other???? Is there any morality aside from some positive(given) system of LAW???? I know of none and even if there was one a contradiction would occur given all scientific truths are open to progressive change, upon further testing, thus resulting in a morality which is subject to change. |
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Post by jonbain on Dec 22, 2020 17:42:02 GMT
The so-called 'ethics of science' is less a given system of law
than it is a subtle sub-conscious insinuation of racism, and thus war.
That unholy phrase "survival of the fittest" is so easily distorted.
It made little sense pre-nuke, it makes zero sense post-nuke.
We use thought experiments in philosophy which can short-cut the
moral dilemmas which occur when constructing experiments on people
to prove or test ethical systems. All systems of materialism
result in war, thus materialism is proven a false system.
It is clear that the neo-Darwinian principle of
"survival of the fittest" is easily twisted to justify war
of aggression. As the surplus food-supply dwindles,
we find the prospect of war at every corner.
So science is on a slow-motion train-crash with religion
via the mutually exclusive cosmology that the two
represent.
The mistake that the materialists make is to assume
that religion is pacifist because it seeks passive
solutions at every turn.
At some point occurs the 491st slap.
Plenty of atheists do not realize the extent to which
they actually do adhere to religious ethic.
And plenty of people claiming religion are doing
so with evil materialist intent.
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