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Post by hall on Nov 30, 2020 5:15:56 GMT
Is there colour without light, does it exist? Is Darkness than simply the absence of light and not a real thing as defined in dictionaries and as we are taught ect or is darkness real? We can observe it, yet without the light you cannot observe colours yet any educated man would not deny the existence of colours in the dark.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Nov 30, 2020 10:36:59 GMT
It would depend on what you're talking about exactly. There is black which is a color a pigment then there is the lack of light to the point where you cannot see anymore then there is "nothing" which cannot be observed and technically doesn't exist because if it did then it would be something. The bottom line is darkness is the absence of light not an actual material substance itself .
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Post by lorac on Nov 30, 2020 16:34:17 GMT
What about when we dream, it is in black and white and not colour. Is this because we have our eyes shut ergo no light enters?
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Post by hall on Nov 30, 2020 18:44:40 GMT
What about when we dream, it is in black and white and not colour. Is this because we have our eyes shut ergo no light enters? I don't know if I dream in black and white but I've heard of this , Yes so colours then are mearly light reflecting and do not exist either of we follow this course of logic so in the darkness colours are mearly the presence of light, and when we look at the universe if darkness doesn't exist why can we not penetrate it with our instruments and by this logic nothing exists beyond our view of the light itself but if I turn off the lights in a room and don't let light penetrate it does that mean that room does not exist it's simple science . Another point in the darkness we can measure temperature changes another simple science test you may perform. So by this we can theoretically measure the darkness by temperature and probably find a mean for the darkness or is the cold increase with volume of darkness I do not know a test perhaps it has a limit of coldness for density I am not sure . |
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Post by hall on Nov 30, 2020 18:49:45 GMT
It would depend on what you're talking about exactly. There is black which is a color a pigment then there is the lack of light to the point where you cannot see anymore then there is "nothing" which cannot be observed and technically doesn't exist because if it did then it would be something. The bottom line is darkness is the absence of light not an actual material substance itself . I don't know if I dream in black and white but I've heard of this , Yes so colours then are mearly light reflecting and do not exist either of we follow this course of logic so in the darkness colours are mearly the presence of light, and when we look at the universe if darkness doesn't exist why can we not penetrate it with our instruments and by this logic nothing exists beyond our view of the light itself but if I turn off the lights in a room and don't let light penetrate it does that mean that room does not exist it's simple science Another point in the darkness we can measure temperature changes another simple science test you may perform.So by this we can theoretically measure the darkness by temperature and probably find a mean for the darkness or is the cold increase with volume of darkness I do not know a test perhaps it has a limit of coldness for density I am not sure . |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Nov 30, 2020 21:45:48 GMT
I don't know if I dream in black and white but I've heard of this , Yes so colours then are mearly light reflecting and do not exist either of we follow this course of logic so in the darkness colours are mearly the presence of light, and when we look at the universe if darkness doesn't exist why can we not penetrate it with our instruments and by this logic nothing exists beyond our view of the light itself but if I turn off the lights in a room and >>>don't let light penetrate it does that mean that room does not exist it's simple science<<<
Light is a type of field modality/substance/ matter
It is "something"
>>>Another point in the darkness we can measure temperature changes another simple science test you may perform.<<<
Temperature is also a "something" that "something" is different then the "something" that light is made out of.
>>>So by this we can theoretically measure the darkness by temperature and probably find a mean for the darkness or is the cold increase with volume of darkness I do not know a test perhaps it has a limit of coldness for density I am not sure<<<
No you are confusing the lack of light aka darkness with "nothing" which would also have no light in it
however just because you can't see in the dark doesn't mean anything other than you just can't see.
The room is still there only difference is now it's void of the light Spectrum thst the human eye can see.
And when you dream your mind is recreating the experience of vision just like it does when your awake only difference is your mind is not receiving signals from your retina
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Post by hall on Nov 30, 2020 23:16:51 GMT
If we could measure absolute zero we might find dark
Energy or perhaps that went out with the big bang and the introduction of light perhaps it is the measure of everything in the universe in perfect darkness or maybe not but it is certianly more observed than colour in the dark.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 1, 2020 1:23:40 GMT
We can't measure nothing/zero because if we could then it wouldn't be nothing/zero
Dark matter is a whole new can of worms on the other hand .
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Post by hall on Dec 1, 2020 2:03:51 GMT
We can't measure nothing/zero because if we could then it wouldn't be nothing/zero Dark matter is a whole new can of worms on the other hand . So your saying it is simply colder because of the absence of light which is nothing it becomes colder so nothing makes it colder and that 0 doesn't exist either because it measures nothing yet in nothing colours don't exist because of the absense of light so we are observing nothing again so it doesn't exist ? |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 1, 2020 5:55:33 GMT
We can't measure nothing/zero because if we could then it wouldn't be nothing/zero Dark matter is a whole new can of worms on the other hand . So your saying it is simply colder because of the absence of light which is nothing it becomes colder so nothing makes it colder and that 0 doesn't exist either because it measures nothing yet in nothing colours don't exist because of the absense of light so we are observing nothing again so it doesn't exist ? Not exactly . it can be dark yet not cold . And dark is the absence of light that is Within a particular bandwidth that our eyes can distinguish. However the red cup sitting on the blue coffee table is still red and the table is still blue rather you can see them or not Because the only thing that changed when you flipped the light switch was the visual light band that humans can see was turned off . |
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Post by hall on Dec 1, 2020 14:24:09 GMT
So your saying it is simply colder because of the absence of light which is nothing it becomes colder so nothing makes it colder and that 0 doesn't exist either because it measures nothing yet in nothing colours don't exist because of the absense of light so we are observing nothing again so it doesn't exist ? Not exactly . it can be dark yet not cold . And dark is the absence of light that is Within a particular bandwidth that our eyes can distinguish. However the red cup sitting on the blue coffee table is still red and the table is still blue rather you can see them or not Because the only thing that changed when you flipped the light switch was the visual light band that humans can see was turned off . I'd like to explore this comment can you give examples "it can be dark yet not cold " There seems to be another unknown I cannot think of a single example of warmth without some light so it seems cold is also the absense of light can cold come from light ? |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 1, 2020 18:28:15 GMT
Does that mean when you go to bed at night and Turn All the Lights Off you wake up covered in nice and freezing cold in the morning?
Temperature is different than light .
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