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Post by karl on Nov 18, 2020 3:35:44 GMT
The following was in ancient China spoken as a curse:
"May you live in interesting times."
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Nov 18, 2020 4:02:21 GMT
Yes, I have often jokingly talked about this ancient Chinese curse with others. But the jokes were in the genre of black comedy because I think the immediate future does hold interesting times if they have not already started and these are the birth pains for more fascinating events. I don't know if this holds true for Norway but this has been an exceedingly unrelenting "interesting" year in the United States and it's still going on with the election weirdness and these last few months show promise for more interesting things to happen.
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Post by karl on Nov 18, 2020 6:34:40 GMT
Yes, I have often jokingly talked about this ancient Chinese curse with others. But the jokes were in the genre of black comedy because I think the immediate future does hold interesting times if they have not already started and these are the birth pains for more fascinating events. I don't know if this holds true for Norway but this has been an exceedingly unrelenting "interesting" year in the United States and it's still going on with the election weirdness and these last few months show promise for more interesting things to happen.
Western civilization is going through an identity crisis. As its most powerful nation, the US is in the epicenter of it. Whatever happens there will propagate through the rest of the world, one way or another.
I am happy I get to live through this age. I strongly disliked the relative stability of the 90's, which I saw as stagnation. To me it was like breathing in air without oxygen. People acted as if they could just live in the now, without any deeper sense of meaning. What we are now witnessing is phase zero of people blindly attempting to acquire some sense of purpose. It's a search for meaning in a vegetative stage. The scientific paradigm has pushed the idea that an individual life does not matter in the larger context, and that all one could ever hope for is transient, superficial enjoyment. On a subconscious level, people are rebelling, and whatever cause they latch on to becomes a form of religion.
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 18, 2020 6:37:35 GMT
Why is it a curse? Putting a curse on someone would include something negative but that's like neutral or even positive like they might wish you adventure and fun in life.  |
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Post by karl on Nov 18, 2020 6:40:12 GMT
Why is it a curse? Putting a curse on someone would include something negative but that's like neutral or even positive like they might wish you adventure and fun in life.
Chinese culture values stability, and times that in hindsight are considered as interesting, are those of turmoil and change, which might not be so pleasant to live through.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Nov 18, 2020 7:13:52 GMT
Yes, I have often jokingly talked about this ancient Chinese curse with others. But the jokes were in the genre of black comedy because I think the immediate future does hold interesting times if they have not already started and these are the birth pains for more fascinating events. I don't know if this holds true for Norway but this has been an exceedingly unrelenting "interesting" year in the United States and it's still going on with the election weirdness and these last few months show promise for more interesting things to happen.
Western civilization is going through an identity crisis. As its most powerful nation, the US is in the epicenter of it. Whatever happens there will propagate through the rest of the world, one way or another.
I am happy I get to live through this age. I strongly disliked the relative stability of the 90's, which I saw as stagnation. To me it was like breathing in air without oxygen. People acted as if they could just live in the now, without any deeper sense of meaning. What we are now witnessing is phase zero of people blindly attempting to acquire some sense of purpose. It's a search for meaning in a vegetative stage. The scientific paradigm has pushed the idea that an individual life does not matter in the larger context, and that all one could ever hope for is transient, superficial enjoyment. On a subconscious level, people are rebelling, and whatever cause they latch on to becomes a form of religion.
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Post by karl on Nov 18, 2020 7:40:59 GMT
Western civilization is going through an identity crisis. As its most powerful nation, the US is in the epicenter of it. Whatever happens there will propagate through the rest of the world, one way or another.
I am happy I get to live through this age. I strongly disliked the relative stability of the 90's, which I saw as stagnation. To me it was like breathing in air without oxygen. People acted as if they could just live in the now, without any deeper sense of meaning. What we are now witnessing is phase zero of people blindly attempting to acquire some sense of purpose. It's a search for meaning in a vegetative stage. The scientific paradigm has pushed the idea that an individual life does not matter in the larger context, and that all one could ever hope for is transient, superficial enjoyment. On a subconscious level, people are rebelling, and whatever cause they latch on to becomes a form of religion.
I hope this search for purpose leads the West back to Christianity.
I don't belong to an established religion, but of all the world's religions, Christianity comes closest to my own belief system. Under any circumstance, without a belief in a divine protector of good against evil, no sense of purpose will be anything but an illusion.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 18, 2020 7:58:17 GMT
Perhaps, it should be spoken like this: "May you live in times of change". And the words, as they say, belong to Confucius.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 9:14:25 GMT
Well, what we believe is what we create in our society. I believe in a very profound crisis that stagnates all mentality for a short time. But it will generate a new form of cosmogony, and that can be the salvation only for the western instituitions. People will degenerate, but not lost the sense of work and values.
It will be a necessary degeneration.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 18, 2020 12:22:30 GMT
Well, what we believe is what we create in our society. I believe in a very profound crisis that stagnates all mentality for a short time. But it will generate a new form of cosmogony, and that can be the salvation only for the western instituitions. People will degenerate, but not lost the sense of work and values. It will be a necessary degeneration. The western institutions are the only ones who bear the truth? I mean only following their rules mankind will survive? Or no matter what only the western institutions will survive? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 16:54:03 GMT
Well, what we believe is what we create in our society. I believe in a very profound crisis that stagnates all mentality for a short time. But it will generate a new form of cosmogony, and that can be the salvation only for the western instituitions. People will degenerate, but not lost the sense of work and values. It will be a necessary degeneration. The western institutions are the only ones who bear the truth? I mean only following their rules mankind will survive? Or no matter what only the western institutions will survive? Who can endure the lies. Agree. |
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