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Post by hall on Nov 4, 2020 17:23:00 GMT
Freedom, Fate , nature , natural law, gods will, science amongst many others like Necromancy and how people are so ready to disprove everything like myths as lies and not as perspective or real . I will try not to post junk posts like this anymore and instead write small to med size lectures at a min I'm from Canada I'm late thirties and am open to rational debate and discussions .
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Post by singerofsongs on Nov 7, 2020 6:39:06 GMT
mythology, interesting! For what was once legend was once history was surely once widely acknowledged by great minds? universal theory of everything would spiritualism a part of be, for sure.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 7, 2020 6:49:05 GMT
This post isn't junk. Interests of philosophy, btw, might be taken as a philosophical problem. We can say it's close to ethos and authority, and also to consequences.
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Post by joustos on Nov 7, 2020 21:03:58 GMT
mythology, interesting! For what was once legend was once history was surely once widely acknowledged by great minds? universal theory of everything would spiritualism a part of be, for sure. When I saw the topic of the thread, I realized that the areas of philosophy, in which one may be interested, are, in ancient times, Physics, Metaphysics, Logic (Analytics and Linguistics), Epistemology, Ethics,, and Cosmology, So, I expected that responders would cite their areas of interest in philosophy. However, when I read your post, I found out that you listed fields of investigations or study that you are interested in, namely Mythology and the Theory of Everything, which includes Herodotus' History/Research (into cultural and political social life -- hence a Universal History). So, you exclaimed, "Mythology is interesting [to me]", But since philosophy is a field of investigation, philosophers being seekers of wisdom [true knowledge], you should have added Philosophy to your list, if you are interested in philosophy. Instead, you virtually said that myths (the subject matter of Mytho-logy) was once acknowledged [believed to be true knowledge] by philosophers. {That may have been so, but it is not the case that the ancient philosophers investigated, in respect to truth, the myths in their societies, whereas in the 19th century, German scholars investigated the doctrines of some religions, specifically the Biblical myths -- about the Elohim and Yahweh. They were mythologists, not Theologians or Myth-makers.} I am not sure what you mean by Spiritualism, for the word may be used to mean, (A) Spirituality -- a person's concern with immaterial things, and (B) the art of contacting spirits -- the souls of dead people. Apparently, Spiritualism in either sense of the word is an area of interest for you. And certainly Spiritualism in either sense of the word, is a subject-matter in a Theory of Everything. // I must say that I was amazed or bewildered by the SYNTAX of what was written, in respect to both the physical arrangement of words or terms, and the combination of ideas/thoughts/meanings. For example: == Your username, SingerofSongs, is a puzzle, for one sings poems, or tales; a song is a poem or a tale that is musicalized (set to music). So, I am singing a song = I am singing what has been sung by someone else. In that case, I am repeating a song and I should call myself, a Rhapsodist, or, in modern times, the Enactor of a published music score (which consists of notated music plus lyrics, the coordinated text of a poem or a tale). == "Universal Theory of Everything". Well, Theory of EVERYthing = Universal Theory. Consequently, you virtually said, "Of Everything THeory of Everything" and unnecessarily so. == Rephrase "Universal theory of everything would spiritualism a part be, for sure" as: for sure, spiritualism [an interest of mine] would be a part of a Theory of everything [which is an area of my interests]. {However, poetic transpositions are allowed in English, in Latin, etc., as when one says, "May my son lawyer be'. The English " On the nature of the gods" =In Greek: Peri ton theon physeis = Latin: De natura deorum. Cheers P
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Post by lorac on Nov 8, 2020 16:09:37 GMT
'What's in a name'!! the name 'singerofsongs' sounds just right to me. Now if you had used the username !Enactor of a published music score!' I would have gone to sleep
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Post by joustos on Nov 8, 2020 17:15:17 GMT
{continuation of my above post} I forgot to mention that there is a name to designate the unnecessary use of a cognate word in a locution. for instance, the locution "singer of songs" contains the unnecessary term "of songs", in which case the locution is called a PLEONASM. Another pleonasm, which I have seen written on a little container, "Juicy Juice". AS you know, a juice is a liquid which is extracted from an orange or an apple or a coconut; so, generally speaking, a juice is a naturally flavored water. So, the label of that container should have been simply "Juice". Beneath the label, there was the picture of an apple. In effect, the whole front of the container said, "apple juice". Here, "apple" is not an unnecessary word, since it SPECIFIES that from which the juice was extracted.
Pleonasms, Metaphors, etc, were called by the same people who invented/coined these names [the Greeks], "rhetorical figures/formats of speech", as they were used by public/forensic speakers who tried to convince an audience that somebody was guilty or innocent. Today we should say that they are advertising figures of speech, which tend to convince people to buy a product. In fact, to say "Juicy Juice" is to say, for some people, "a highly flavory [apple] juice". As you might expect, the Greeks invented a name for the use of a word [Juicy] to say something else [highly flavory]: METONYMY [meta-onymia]. A non-rhetorical figure of speech: SYNECDOCHE, wherefore the name of a part is used to name the whole -- for instance, "The sail with the Templar emblem was piloted by Columbus": Sail instead of Ship. (Incidentally, the Templar emblem consisted of a cross whose horizontal and vertical poles were equal in length and shape. The shape was, relatively to the center or intersection point, convex [diverging from the center]. {I keep on explaining some words that I use, just in case a reader does not know the meaning of all English words.} METAPHOR: John Doe is a lion. Here I transferred the great strength of a lion to a man. In this particular example, I am implying that John is not like a DOE --gentle and weak -- but as ferocious and strong as a LION. The Greeks excelled n making comparisons, wherefore they have many and diverse "comparative words", such as Pleonasm, Metaphor, Synecdoche, etc.
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Post by joustos on Nov 9, 2020 4:14:43 GMT
'What's in a name'!! the name 'singerofsongs' sounds just right to me. Now if you had used the username !Enactor of a published music score!' I would have gone to sleep You are right. Indeed,"Singerofsongs" or"SongSnger" is a more attractive name and would be rhetorically good for advertising you. However, I think you missed my point: if a name is used as an epithet of a person, as a descriptor of what he is or is wished to be, either in part or fully, such as ASTIANAX (Defender of the City), is either accurate or inaccurate (not befitting a person). So, as I was implying, if you are a re-singer of a poem, you should call yourself RHAPSODIST. If you are the Enactor or Actualizer of a written song, you should call yourself "Enactor of ….", but unfortunately we do have a single word (a lexis) for saying all that I enclosed in quotation marks. The single word would not put one to sleep. Let me ask you a Trebeck/Jeopardy answer: "It is an enactor of a published music score" and you are supposed to pose this question: "What is an XYZ?" Unfortunately there is no such a single word or "definiendum", whereas there is a definiendum [DOG] for this definition/definitum, "barking animal". Sometimes I go through a Jeopardy-like dialogue, which starts with an answer an expects a question. How is this possible? This is how: For instance, I have in mind a meaning or concept (such as the "moving straight ahead and downwards" of a fire cannon ball). I know that this type of motion has been called PARABOLIC, but is there a single word (a name) that means "parabolic MOTION"? Not that I know of. And unfortunately we dont have a dictionary of definitions followed by their corresponding Definienda [single words].This would be a Reverse Dictionary. {I am a word-hunter, that is, in TRANSLITERATED Greek, a lexi-ther. This Greek word is a vebatim (word-for-word) translation of "word-hunter", not a single word -- which may or may not exist. However, when I did not know what the Greek word meant, I acquired its meaning by dictionary translating it into an English word whose meaning I knew. The dictionary writer, the lexigrapher, had to know the meaning of both words, in order to make the translation; that is, he had to know and be able to speak both languages to begin with.
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