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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 17, 2020 18:37:54 GMT
Well, if you are about to create a logical system – to make it seen and comprehensible, what kind of objects do you imagine when you're in the process, and what kind of things you hope you'll get?
I mean that when you try to create a certain system of logic that is to explain your thoughts, what objects you keep in mind while doing this?
And, when you had done with the system (you had expressed it somehow) and you presented it to someone else (or you had accidentally encountered it later). So about what type of objects that person would be thinking when the one use your logical system?
One can say that this task is irrelevant, because people have different objects in their heads, and there's no connection between the objects and things in any of those cases. But trying to make it more clearer let's say that to create logic we need certain sort of objects, and when we're in the middle of the process of solving a logical task - some certain sort of objects are in our minds. There must be some typical connections.
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Post by jonbain on Oct 19, 2020 10:30:12 GMT
Pure logic touches as close to ontology as possible. But the vague nature of language creates illusions that often can even develop into anti-logic. These of course destroy themselves, but often they cause mayhem to others in the process.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 21, 2020 11:47:11 GMT
Pure logic touches as close to ontology as possible. But the vague nature of language creates illusions that often can even develop into anti-logic. These of course destroy themselves, but often they cause mayhem to others in the process. So, connotations, which are linguistic remains of the pure logic, or the logic's complements, are able to create another universe or another ontology, ot they just influence somehow on one ontology, right? (This reminds me a little as Parmenides ironically asked Socrates about ideas of cutted nails, hairs rests, etc.)
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Post by jonbain on Oct 23, 2020 17:10:41 GMT
Pure logic touches as close to ontology as possible. But the vague nature of language creates illusions that often can even develop into anti-logic. These of course destroy themselves, but often they cause mayhem to others in the process. So, connotations, which are linguistic remains of the pure logic, or the logic's complements, are able to create another universe or another ontology, ot they just influence somehow on one ontology, right? (This reminds me a little as Parmenides ironically asked Socrates about ideas of cutted nails, hairs rests, etc.) Sure, bad understanding of the world can shape the world via the human mind - but normally for the worse.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 24, 2020 9:10:01 GMT
So, connotations, which are linguistic remains of the pure logic, or the logic's complements, are able to create another universe or another ontology, ot they just influence somehow on one ontology, right? (This reminds me a little as Parmenides ironically asked Socrates about ideas of cutted nails, hairs rests, etc.) Sure, bad understanding of the world can shape the world via the human mind - but normally for the worse.
Thanks!
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