Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 4, 2020 10:33:08 GMT
Imagine that:
P1) You're looking at a big black cube, and your friend is doing the same from another side; both of you are seen a big black square
P2) You're looking at a walking down the street person, and your friend is watching the same, but your friend is walking down another street of the town; both of you are watching a walking down the street person; those two persons that you've been watching are twins
P3) You have a look at the mirror, and do it again. You've seen a couple of times your face.
In three cases there is no difference between you or your friend are watching. The first example introduces a view of the black square, another example is viewing a walking person, and the last time you're seeing you face.
In the very first example the images of what you and your friend is watching is exactly the same big black square. The same size, the same proportions, the same colour. In the second example for you and your friend the walking person seems one and the same; so, you and your friend see exactly one image, even that it happens in different location of the same town. In the third one example you see your face and each time you see exactly the same face, but it happens one after another.
Some might say that the third example is not really obvious, and the next time you don't see exactly the same face; for the second example some might object that these persons are not completely the same. And for the first example is harder to object, because the image is identical. In three of these cases is supposed that all of images in each examples are the same for its viewers.
And here is something strage: do we see the same images or not? Do we see identical images or not? If it is possible to view identical images for different persons how to maintain it?
So, if two images are identical one and another person can say without any false that "I see ...[x]" and "I see ...[y]". [x] is exactly the same as [y], and [x] is identical to [y]. These two viewers (and any viewers at all) cannot differ [x] from [y].
In this sense phrases: "I see ...[x]" and "I see ...[y]" are truth. Therefore, it's possible for two different persons to say the truth about something, while their phrases are identical, however, it's not identical things?
P1) You're looking at a big black cube, and your friend is doing the same from another side; both of you are seen a big black square
P2) You're looking at a walking down the street person, and your friend is watching the same, but your friend is walking down another street of the town; both of you are watching a walking down the street person; those two persons that you've been watching are twins
P3) You have a look at the mirror, and do it again. You've seen a couple of times your face.
In three cases there is no difference between you or your friend are watching. The first example introduces a view of the black square, another example is viewing a walking person, and the last time you're seeing you face.
In the very first example the images of what you and your friend is watching is exactly the same big black square. The same size, the same proportions, the same colour. In the second example for you and your friend the walking person seems one and the same; so, you and your friend see exactly one image, even that it happens in different location of the same town. In the third one example you see your face and each time you see exactly the same face, but it happens one after another.
Some might say that the third example is not really obvious, and the next time you don't see exactly the same face; for the second example some might object that these persons are not completely the same. And for the first example is harder to object, because the image is identical. In three of these cases is supposed that all of images in each examples are the same for its viewers.
And here is something strage: do we see the same images or not? Do we see identical images or not? If it is possible to view identical images for different persons how to maintain it?
So, if two images are identical one and another person can say without any false that "I see ...[x]" and "I see ...[y]". [x] is exactly the same as [y], and [x] is identical to [y]. These two viewers (and any viewers at all) cannot differ [x] from [y].
In this sense phrases: "I see ...[x]" and "I see ...[y]" are truth. Therefore, it's possible for two different persons to say the truth about something, while their phrases are identical, however, it's not identical things?