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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 3, 2020 14:54:21 GMT
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Post by fschmidt on Oct 3, 2020 18:24:30 GMT
This is a terrible argument. Religion deserves a better defense.
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Post by johnbc on Oct 3, 2020 18:40:28 GMT
Religion alone does not guarantee knowledge of the divine dimension. But we can have some knowledge of this if we practice religion in certain ways and if we follow the biblical advice: "Meditate on divine law day and night". If you don't do that, there's no point in praying, there's no use going to church. The thing is: think about it day and night. Christ said, "Knock, knock and the door will be opened." As much as you ask, you get the answer. The main sign of love for a person is that you pay attention to them. If you don't pay attention to God, how are you going to say you have love for God? What bullshit is this? It's just pretended! The interest, the wanting to know, the asking day and night “My God, what do you mean, what are you saying to me?”, We have to think about it all the time, and ask God the meaning of things. If we don't do this, our experience of religion is superficial.
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Post by nobeernolife on Oct 3, 2020 18:42:53 GMT
Absolutely pathetic. Why did I waste 10 minutes of my life on this.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 3, 2020 20:07:03 GMT
Religion alone does not guarantee knowledge of the divine dimension. But we can have some knowledge of this if we practice religion in certain ways and if we follow the biblical advice: "Meditate on divine law day and night". If you don't do that, there's no point in praying, there's no use going to church. The thing is: think about it day and night. Christ said, "Knock, knock and the door will be opened." As much as you ask, you get the answer. The main sign of love for a person is that you pay attention to them. If you don't pay attention to God, how are you going to say you have love for God? What bullshit is this? It's just pretended! The interest, the wanting to know, the asking day and night “My God, what do you mean, what are you saying to me?”, We have to think about it all the time, and ask God the meaning of things. If we don't do this, our experience of religion is superficial. It doesn't seem okay for me that you're saying it. Thomas Aqunas didn't think it. He said that there was another route to understand God and it was the revelations. Why there were no ways for plain fishermen or prostitutes? They hadn't studied philosophy, but they were saved. However, such people as Paul were sinners, and they turned to God by a miracle. The same happened not only to Paul, but e.g. to Justine the Philosopher and Augustine. |
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Post by johnbc on Oct 3, 2020 22:04:09 GMT
Religion alone does not guarantee knowledge of the divine dimension. But we can have some knowledge of this if we practice religion in certain ways and if we follow the biblical advice: "Meditate on divine law day and night". If you don't do that, there's no point in praying, there's no use going to church. The thing is: think about it day and night. Christ said, "Knock, knock and the door will be opened." As much as you ask, you get the answer. The main sign of love for a person is that you pay attention to them. If you don't pay attention to God, how are you going to say you have love for God? What bullshit is this? It's just pretended! The interest, the wanting to know, the asking day and night “My God, what do you mean, what are you saying to me?”, We have to think about it all the time, and ask God the meaning of things. If we don't do this, our experience of religion is superficial. It doesn't seem okay for me that you're saying it. Thomas Aqunas didn't think it. He said that there was another route to understand God and it was the revelations. Why there were no ways for plain fishermen or prostitutes? They hadn't studied philosophy, but they were saved. However, such people as Paul were sinners, and they turned to God by a miracle. The same happened not only to Paul, but e.g. to Justine the Philosopher and Augustine. The point is simply being sincere, and seek God. You don't need to be an prototype of St. Thomas Aquinas to do this, because it is in the reach of every human being. God talk to us all the time, it is only up to us to pay attention, most of the time it is in the small things, other times you can be fortunate to witness in the huge miracles (such as Fatima, in the life of Father Pio, etc). I mean that because most people that I know of only go to church mostly for social enviroment instead of the religion itself. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 3, 2020 22:07:00 GMT
It doesn't seem okay for me that you're saying it. Thomas Aqunas didn't think it. He said that there was another route to understand God and it was the revelations. Why there were no ways for plain fishermen or prostitutes? They hadn't studied philosophy, but they were saved. However, such people as Paul were sinners, and they turned to God by a miracle. The same happened not only to Paul, but e.g. to Justine the Philosopher and Augustine. The point is simply being sincere, and seek God. You don't need to be an prototype of St. Thomas Aquinas to do this, because it is in the reach of every human being. God talk to us all the time, it is only up to us to pay attention, most of the time it is in the small things, other times you can be fortunate to witness in the huge miracles (such as Fatima, in the life of Father Pio, etc). I mean that because most people that I know of only go to church mostly for social enviroment instead of the religion itself. Exactly about this Mr. Swinburne was talking about. He said that the greatest benefit to societies is to telling the truth (=being sincere in your interpretation). Religion (=Christianity in Richard Swinburne's interpret) is what does it. Surely, I agree with your thesis. |
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