johnbc
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Post by johnbc on Sept 17, 2020 4:01:04 GMT
St. Thomas Aquinas defined friendship as wanting the same things and rejecting the same things. You are only friends with people who are going to the same place, who have the same values as you; the others, even though they are your relatives, even if it is your wife, your father, your mother or your child, are not your friends, but just acquaintances. With these people, your attitude is one of charity. What charity can you have with them? Teach them. If you are still afraid of them, and are not prepared to teach them, run away. Stay in solitude, get ready, and when you’re strong, go back there, actively, with patience, but firmly. Never accept coexistence in these terms; never accept mediocrizing coexistence, which will demean you, because this is what the Bible calls the ‘company of mockers’, and you cannot have anything to do with these people. See that moving away from people does not mean that you hate them and have no love for them.
One thing that is still quite obvious is that friendship is also one of the pillars on which our personality is built. If you do not find the right friends, who share the same values as you, you will end up associating with other groups, who will offer you support and friendship in exchange for your corruption, in exchange for giving up on who you are, in exchange that you abandon your own values and make useless and abject sacrifices on the altar of false friendship.
One of the basic secrets of life is that you are able to approach people who have the same goals and values as you
A friendship that is born is like a diamond that springs from the ground. One that ends is just something we don’t think about anymore.
The most perfect form of friendship is only possible for those who seek the Truth. Worldly people, however good they may be, will never know the spiritual dimension of a true friend. Small talk and so many other stupidities are the only goal of their social life.
“Any true friend wants for his friend: 1) to exist and live; 2) all goods; 3) do him good; 4) enjoy his coexistence; and 5) finally to share his joys and sorrows with him, living with him one heart.” St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, II-II, q. 25, a. 7.
L. Szondi taught that the choice of friends is one of the determining factors of destiny. You should not prostitute yourself out of mere human respect. Seek the friendship of the best and, without fighting, avoid the worst.
Having real friends at a distance is better than having gold-diggers and swindlers around
Idem velle, idem nolle: To be a friend is to love the same things and reject the same things. Don’t be friends with those who hate what you love.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 17, 2020 4:30:57 GMT
A spouse would be an acquaintance? I don't think that's possible. An acquaintance is someone you casually know and run into for small talk like co-workers. It's definitely not someone you can have kids with. That's a deep connection that has a lifelong impact. Acquaintances come and go not leaving much behind for you. Charity though would be for all relationships unless there's like hate or something.
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johnbc
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Post by johnbc on Sept 17, 2020 4:57:08 GMT
A spouse would be an acquaintance? I don't think that's possible. An acquaintance is someone you casually know and run into for small talk like co-workers. It's definitely not someone you can have kids with. That's a deep connection that has a lifelong impact. Acquaintances come and go not leaving much behind for you. Charity though would be for all relationships unless there's like hate or something. Intimacy, searched by the media, violated by state interference, made in the object of hysterical exhibitionism and sadistic gossip, expropriated from its language by the commercial and ideological exploitation of its symbols, almost no longer exists these days. Often, intimacy means the carnal contact between strangers, through a rubber pellicle. Oftentimes there are couples that despite living together, remain distant from each other for years, that is, there is no true spiritual friendship because they do not want/seek the same as the other. You find this easily on reddit and forums out there on the internet, from spouses frustrated with having lost or simply not having a connection with a partner, which is what I'm talking about here. Having sex and/or kids with someone doens't mean necessarily that he is your friend, despite appearing to be so at first sight. Although of course they should be, since marriage is the highest and most sacred form of friendship and human intimacy that could possibly exist. Unfortunately, this is trivialized today, due to several factors that I will not deal with here, but that I imagine you know more or less.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 17, 2020 5:04:24 GMT
A spouse would be an acquaintance? I don't think that's possible. An acquaintance is someone you casually know and run into for small talk like co-workers. It's definitely not someone you can have kids with. That's a deep connection that has a lifelong impact. Acquaintances come and go not leaving much behind for you. Charity though would be for all relationships unless there's like hate or something. Intimacy, searched by the media, violated by state interference, made in the object of hysterical exhibitionism and sadistic gossip, expropriated from its language by the commercial and ideological exploitation of its symbols, almost no longer exists these days. Often, intimacy means the carnal contact between strangers, through a rubber pellicle. Oftentimes there are couples that despite living together, remain distant from each other for years, that is, there is no true spiritual friendship because they do not want/seek the same as the other. You find this easily on reddit and forums out there on the internet, from spouses frustrated with having lost or simply not having a connection with a partner, which is what I'm talking about here. Having sex and/or kids with someone doens't mean necessarily that he is your friend, despite appearing to be so at first sight. Although of course they should be, since marriage is the highest and most sacred form of friendship and human intimacy that could possibly exist. Unfortunately, this is trivialized today, due to several factors that I will not deal with here, but that I imagine you know more or less. But if that's the case no true friendship can exist and people otherwise should isolate from each other. However, these family members whether spouses, parent and child, and so on did at one point see eye to eye and have a connection. It's just their ego later getting in the way and making them think they're better than another causing a sort of a pause in the friendship. This can once again be resumed to a true friendship again if they return to normal ways as before.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 17, 2020 13:29:15 GMT
I have never had a friend. Nobody cared about me, everybody spat at me or, more often, just did not notice my existence. I fell like I am alone in this world. At the same, the world is overcrowded with people, "it is teeming with unecessary people" – as one catholic fanatic said once.
And it would be absolutely nice to have the world with no people in it, but alas this dream should be buried with all the other hopes.
So, in general it is an absurd: none of people cares about my existence and at the same time many of them wants me be inexistent or dispelled.
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