KGrim
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Post by KGrim on Feb 27, 2020 3:01:44 GMT
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Feb 27, 2020 3:36:47 GMT
My brother's great parent was supposed to be a full-blooded Cherokee. His father, my mother said, looked like an Arab but my brother looks white. I always joke with him about his ancestry. I have a Dutch ancestor way back in the New Netherland colony (which later became New York) that got tomahawked in an Indian raid. As soon as I found out I went up to him and said, "you owe me reparations." We also joked about how he should apply to Harvard like Elizabeth Warren to see if he can get in like she did. Interesting that he might be descended from the Melungeons and have black in him. We're gonna have a whole lot of fun with that if it's true.
The one-drop rule said if you have even a drop of black blood in you, you were considered black by old southern standards and had to sit in the back of the bus. This is going to cause a lot of laughter for both of us if true but I need to buy him an ancestry or 23andme test to see. I don't live in Greater Appalachia, I live in the Deep South but it's like a three-hour drive over to Greenville (those people do have an Appalachian culture) and we had Cherokee in Greenville so it's possible either way that he's a Mulungian or that his grandparent actually was a Cherokee that just came down from Greenville.
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KGrim
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Post by KGrim on Feb 27, 2020 3:51:32 GMT
My brother's great parent was supposed to be a full-blooded Cherokee. His father, my mother said, looked like an Arab but my brother looks white. I always joke with him about his ancestry. I have a Dutch ancestor way back in the New Netherland colony (which later became New York) that got tomahawked in an Indian raid. As soon as I found out I went up to him and said, "you owe me reparations." We also joked about how he should apply to Harvard like Elizabeth Warren to see if he can get in like she did. Interesting that he might be descended from the Melungeons and have black in him. We're gonna have a whole lot of fun with that if it's true. The one-drop rule said if you have even a drop of black blood in you, you were considered black by old southern standards and had to sit in the back of the bus. This is going to cause a lot of laughter for both of us if true but I need to buy him an ancestry or 23andme test to see. I don't live in Greater Appalachia, I live in the Deep South but it's like a three-hour drive over to Greenville (those people do have an Appalachian culture) and we had Cherokee in Greenville so it's possible either way that he's a Mulungian or that his grandparent actually was a Cherokee that just came down from Greenville. He's your half-brother I assume. That would be interesting if he turned out Melungeon. Don't give him too hard a time. I supposedly have "Cherokee" in my blood line, but I highly doubt it. It'd have to be on my mom's side of the family since I know the least about my maternal ancestory. My Dad's side of the family as far as I know is mostly scotch-irish. I've been reading this book by Donald Yates that theorizes that the Cherokee Indians have old world origins so that kinda complicates things. He did make a mistake, however, in asserting that because the Cherokee have haplogroup X that they must have Mediterranean origins, but the Cherokee that are in Haplogroup X are actually part of the subclade X2a which means they are more like distant cousins rather than descendants of certain Mediterranean peoples. |
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Clovis Merovingian
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Posts: 2,694
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Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Feb 27, 2020 3:57:44 GMT
My brother's great parent was supposed to be a full-blooded Cherokee. His father, my mother said, looked like an Arab but my brother looks white. I always joke with him about his ancestry. I have a Dutch ancestor way back in the New Netherland colony (which later became New York) that got tomahawked in an Indian raid. As soon as I found out I went up to him and said, "you owe me reparations." We also joked about how he should apply to Harvard like Elizabeth Warren to see if he can get in like she did. Interesting that he might be descended from the Melungeons and have black in him. We're gonna have a whole lot of fun with that if it's true. The one-drop rule said if you have even a drop of black blood in you, you were considered black by old southern standards and had to sit in the back of the bus. This is going to cause a lot of laughter for both of us if true but I need to buy him an ancestry or 23andme test to see. I don't live in Greater Appalachia, I live in the Deep South but it's like a three-hour drive over to Greenville (those people do have an Appalachian culture) and we had Cherokee in Greenville so it's possible either way that he's a Mulungian or that his grandparent actually was a Cherokee that just came down from Greenville. He's your half-brother I assume. That would be interesting if he turned out Melungeon. Don't give him too hard a time. I supposedly have "Cherokee" in my blood line, but I highly doubt it. It'd have to be on my mom's side of the family since I know the least about my maternal ancestory. My Dad's side of the family as far as I know is mostly scotch-irish. I've been reading this book by Donald Yates that theorizes that the Cherokee Indians have old world origins so that kinda complicates things. He did make a mistake, however, in asserting that because the Cherokee have haplogroup X that they must have Mediterranean origins, but the Cherokee that are in Haplogroup X are actually part of the subclade X2a which means they are more like distant cousins rather than descendants of certain Mediterranean peoples. Yeah, he's my half brother. And we give each other a hard time about a bunch of stuff and take it in stride. It's all just jokes between brothers. I've never heard that the Cherokee had old world origins, that's pretty interesting. How did that happen? |
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KGrim
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Coming back to Arktos...for a little while anyways...just to see how things are doing.
Posts: 442
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Country: USA
Region: South East
Location: East Texas
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Age: 33 soon to be 34
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Post by KGrim on Feb 27, 2020 4:25:21 GMT
He's your half-brother I assume. That would be interesting if he turned out Melungeon. Don't give him too hard a time. I supposedly have "Cherokee" in my blood line, but I highly doubt it. It'd have to be on my mom's side of the family since I know the least about my maternal ancestory. My Dad's side of the family as far as I know is mostly scotch-irish. I've been reading this book by Donald Yates that theorizes that the Cherokee Indians have old world origins so that kinda complicates things. He did make a mistake, however, in asserting that because the Cherokee have haplogroup X that they must have Mediterranean origins, but the Cherokee that are in Haplogroup X are actually part of the subclade X2a which means they are more like distant cousins rather than descendants of certain Mediterranean peoples. Yeah, he's my half brother. And we give each other a hard time about a bunch of stuff and take it in stride. It's all just jokes between brothers. I've never heard that the Cherokee had old world origins, that's pretty interesting. How did that happen? Well according to Yates there was actually many cases of Mediterraneans coming to the new world like the "Greek Admiral Maui who, it is claimed left inscriptions as far distant as New Guinea and Chile." Ptolemy Euergetes III was the patron of Maui's expedition and it reached South America by 230 BC. There is also an oral tradition passed down by the Keetoowah Society of the Cherokee which William Eubanks was a part of. William Eubanks (pen-name Unenudi) wrote the following: "When we lived beyond the great waters there were twelve clans belonging to the Chrokee tribe. And back in the old country in which we lived the country was subject to great floods. So in the course of time we held a council and decided to build a storehouse reaching to heaven. The Cherokees said that when the house was built and the floods came the tribe would just leave the earth and go to heaven. And we commenced to build the great structure, and when it was towring into one of the highest heavens the great powers destroyed the apex, cutting it down to about half of its height. But as the tribe was fully determined to build to heaven for safety they were not discouraged but commenced to repair the damage done by the gods. Finally they completed the lofty structure and considered themselves safe from the floods. But after it was completed the gods destroyed the high part, again, and when they determined to repair the damage they found that the language of the tribe was confused or destroyed." There's more to the story but I don't feel like typing the whole thing. Obviously Eubanks story has many parallels with the story of the tower of Babel and that would make sense if the Cherokee were descendants of ancient Jews and Greeks (Hellanized Jews). I have my reservations of this theory, but as of yet I have not read all of Donald Yates book Old Souls in a New World and there is much to investigate. |
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