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Post by Διαμονδ on Sept 20, 2017 18:28:09 GMT
Haplogroup R1a Possible time of origin 22,000 YBP to 25,000 years ago Possible place of origin Eurasia Ancestor Haplogroup R1 Descendants Haplogroup R1a-Z282 (Europe), R1a-Z93 (Asia) Defining mutations R1a: L62, L63, L120, M420, M449, M511, M513 R1a1a: M17, M198, M512, M514, M515, L168, L449, L457, L566 Highest frequencies See List of R1a frequency by population Haplogroup R1a, or haplogroup R-M420, is a human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup which is distributed in a large region in Eurasia, extending from Scandinavia, Central Europe and southern Siberia to South Asia. While R1a originated ca. 22,000 to 25,000 years ago, its subclade M417 (R1a1a1) diversified ca. 5,800 years ago. The distribution of M417-subclades R1a-Z282 (including R1a-Z280)in Central and Eastern Europe and R1a-Z93 in Asia suggests that R1a1a diversified within the Eurasian Steppes or the Middle East and Caucasus region.The place of origin of these subclades plays a role in the debate about the origins of Indo-Europeans. Nowadays, high frequencies of R1a are found in Poland (57.5% of the population), Ukraine (40 to 65%), European Russia (45 to 65%), Belarus (51%), Slovakia (42%), Latvia (40%), Lithuania (38%), the Czech Republic (34%), Hungary (32%), Norway (27%), Austria (26%), Croatia (24%), north-east Germany (24%) Sweden (19%), and Romania (18%).
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 18, 2017 7:06:15 GMT
Indo-European groups are not 100% R1a, they also have "local" Y-DNA in each area. Well, this group is considered more Indo-European originally! Compared to the other haplogroups!
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 18, 2017 7:07:46 GMT
Hmm?? Don Cossacks?
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Post by guachelin on Oct 10, 2018 3:25:46 GMT
I am an American with DNA roots in Yorkshire, England. I belong to a DNA project of which over 20 persons have tested Big Y AND we can definitely trace our Most Recent Common Ancestor to a man who arrived in the Virginia Colony in Aug 1618 SNP R-YP5905
And there are five others who, along with the 20 already mentioned can trace their Ancestry to a man R-Z93>YP5585>YP5578 who was born in Yorkshire about the time of the Crusades. The DNA is known as R-YP5578 or by ISOGG as R1a1a1a1b2h1
YP5585 is an Indian. Most certainly a descendant of a Scythian who invaded the Indus Valley, and is today referred to as Aryans, a word meaning Noble.
In trying to determine how YP5585 could show up in Yorkshire, about the time of the crusades. I've hypthesized two possibilities. An Indian taking captive by the Arabs in 8th Century, survived the trek over the Hindu Kush, sold in slave market in Damascus, lived as a dhimmi under the Arabs as did his descendants, and decided to join the Crusaders, who wanted to take advantage of his craftsmanship and skill as a maker of Damascus steel. That is the abbreviated version.
A second theory, also abbreviated, is that a descendant of an Alani (a Sarmatian Tribe) who had settled in Brittany, was transplanted to Yorkshire after William the Conqueror had depopulated the region in his Harrying of the North.
Except that I can't find any evidence of R-YP5585 amongst the Alani or Iazyge's two known Sarmatian tribes that had the possibility of landing on English Soil (Iazge's did for sure, 5,500 of them serving as Axillaries of the 6th Roman Legion. The Alani descendants as part of the Breton force that served as Wm the Conquerors left flank at Hastings.
And I have seen nothing in the literature about YP5585 being found west of India.
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