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Post by Διαμονδ on Sept 20, 2017 18:28:09 GMT
Haplogroup R1a Possible time of origin 22,000 YBP to 25,000 years ago Possible place of origin Eurasia Ancestor Haplogroup R1 Descendants Haplogroup R1a-Z282 (Europe), R1a-Z93 (Asia) Defining mutations R1a: L62, L63, L120, M420, M449, M511, M513 R1a1a: M17, M198, M512, M514, M515, L168, L449, L457, L566 Highest frequencies See List of R1a frequency by population Haplogroup R1a, or haplogroup R-M420, is a human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup which is distributed in a large region in Eurasia, extending from Scandinavia, Central Europe and southern Siberia to South Asia. While R1a originated ca. 22,000 to 25,000 years ago, its subclade M417 (R1a1a1) diversified ca. 5,800 years ago. The distribution of M417-subclades R1a-Z282 (including R1a-Z280)in Central and Eastern Europe and R1a-Z93 in Asia suggests that R1a1a diversified within the Eurasian Steppes or the Middle East and Caucasus region.The place of origin of these subclades plays a role in the debate about the origins of Indo-Europeans. Nowadays, high frequencies of R1a are found in Poland (57.5% of the population), Ukraine (40 to 65%), European Russia (45 to 65%), Belarus (51%), Slovakia (42%), Latvia (40%), Lithuania (38%), the Czech Republic (34%), Hungary (32%), Norway (27%), Austria (26%), Croatia (24%), north-east Germany (24%) Sweden (19%), and Romania (18%).
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 13, 2017 7:40:47 GMT
R1a Originally born at Aryanam Vaeja , today at Tajikestan ,the place that consider birth place of Prophet Asho Zartosht Spitaman,founder the only Aryan Religion , Also Iran means Land of Aryans and Prophet At Avesta mentioned that was the best place who Ahuramazda created with 16 other Region Around but The best one was Aryan land at East of Iran's Plateau There are many different theories! Most likely in Tajikistan, this element is not native!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 7:46:12 GMT
Err, there are kurgan warriors, or the eurasian giants too. They had a Mitanni kingdom, when these Indo Europeans were on their imperialist expansionsm.
Mitanni outposts were found in Iran, Syria, Anatolia, and even near to egypt.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 7:46:57 GMT
R1a Originally born at Aryanam Vaeja , today at Tajikestan ,the place that consider birth place of Prophet Asho Zartosht Spitaman,founder the only Aryan Religion , Also Iran means Land of Aryans and Prophet At Avesta mentioned that was the best place who Ahuramazda created with 16 other Region Around but The best one was Aryan land at East of Iran's Plateau There are many different theories! Most likely in Tajikistan, this element is not native! Yeah, that's what I am saying. Even in Tajikistan, this has come from somewhere else,from Indo European.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 13, 2017 7:47:50 GMT
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Post by khosro on Nov 13, 2017 8:02:05 GMT
From the late 2nd millennium BCE to early 1st millennium BCE the Iranians had expanded from the Eurasian Steppe, and Iranian peoples such as Medes, Persians, Bactrians, and Parthians populated the Iranian plateau.
Scythian tribes, along with Cimmerians, Sarmatians and Alans populated the former a Greco-Bactrian Kingdom founded by Diodotus I, the satrap of Bactria. The Kushan Empire, with Bactrian roots/connections, once controlled much of Pakistan, Afghanistabranches The Western Iranian dialect continuum shown in Eastern Europe right next to the area of the Balto-Slavic dialect continuum the latter with proposed material cultures correlating to speakers of Balto-hydroxyl
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 8:05:23 GMT
From the late 2nd millennium BCE to early 1st millennium BCE the Iranians had expanded from the Eurasian Steppe, and Iranian peoples such as Medes, Persians, Bactrians, and Parthians populated the Iranian plateau. Scythian tribes, along with Cimmerians, Sarmatians and Alans populated the former a Greco-Bactrian Kingdom founded by Diodotus I, the satrap of Bactria. The Kushan Empire, with Bactrian roots/connections, once controlled much of Pakistan, Afghanistabranches The Western Iranian dialect continuum shown in Eastern Europe right next to the area of the Balto-Slavic dialect continuum the latter with proposed material cultures correlating to speakers of Balto-hydroxyl Kushan tocharians, indo europeans, from chinese regions. They actually came to benaras, and worked under brahamnical code of conduct. Read about king kanishka. All the names which you are writing are easter iranid, and they were central asian scythes. But master race, this R1a1 is indo european, and they were bronze age giants.
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Post by khosro on Nov 13, 2017 8:06:56 GMT
This is not multiple Theory this is unique , and Khonires is R1a origin birth place , reference : Avesta,Zoroastrian Holy book from 3800 years ago before 3 Semitic religion ,
Seven countries are seven regions spoken in Avesta. The names of these areas are in the Pahlavi language and are as follows:
1) Arze in the east 2) Sovhe in the west 3) Fera Dădăfash in the south west Nimruz 4) Vi Dădăfash in the southwest Nimruz (south) 5) Wrouberzhan in the north 6) Wroujrzhan at North . 7- Khōnires in the middle
The best of these countries is Khōnires which in its vastness, alone, is equal to the other six, and Baumik (Bami) means brilliant. Therefore, " Khōnires Bami" is the best land that has been created by Mazda. Each of these countries is a master and the Master of Masters is Bami Khōnires Abou rayhan birouni described them as following :
Country I: India Second country: Arab and Habashe Third Country: Egypt and Sham Fourth Country: Iranshahr Fifth Country: Pelagic and Roman Sixth Country: Turk and Yajuj Seventh Country: China and Machin
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Post by khosro on Nov 13, 2017 8:14:30 GMT
At Avesta (Yašt 13/4 143) Indo-Aryan tribes inhabit at Airyanem Vaejah and around it, "Ayryh» Airya ( Zarathustra people ), "Tour» Tura, «Syrym» Sairima, «sin» Sāini, and Dāhi, known as ingenious figures And sent peace to the spirit of the believers of these tribes.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 25, 2017 0:08:02 GMT
Geographic distribution of R1a1a
Historical Haplogroup R1a has been found in ancient fossils associated with the Corded Ware culture and Urnfield culture; as well as the burial of the remains of the Sintashta culture, Andronovo culture, the Pazyryk culture, Tagar culture and Tashtyk culture, the inhabitants of ancient Tanais, in the Tarim mummies, the aristocracy Xiongnu, in two ancient Khazar fossils. The skeletal remains of a father and his two sons, from an archaeological site discovered in 2005 near Eulau (in Saxony-Anhalt, Germany) and dated to about 2600 BCE, tested positive for the Y-SNP marker SRY10831.2. The Ysearch number for the Eulau remains is 2C46S. The ancestral clade was thus present in Europe at least 4600 years ago, in association with one site of the widespread Corded Ware culture. Europe In Europe, the R1a1 sub-clade is found at highest levels among peoples of Central and Eastern European descent, with results ranging from 35-65% among Czechs, Hungarians, Poles, Slovaks, western Ukrainians (particularly Rusyns), Belarusians, Moldovans, and Russians.In the Baltics, R1a1a frequencies decrease from Lithuania (45%) to Estonia (around 30%). There is a significant presence in peoples of Scandinavian descent, with highest levels in Norway and Iceland, where between 20 and 30% of men are in R1a1a. Vikings and Normans may have also carried the R1a1a lineage westward; accounting for at least part of the small presence in the British Isles. In East Germany, where Haplogroup R1a1a reaches a peak frequency in Rostock at a percentage of 31.3%, it averages between 20 and 30%. Haplogroup R1a1a was found at elevated levels among a sample of the Israeli population who self-designated themselves as Levites and Ashkenazi Jews (Levites comprise approximately 4% of Jews). Behar reported R1a1a to be the dominant haplogroup in Ashkenazi Levites (52%), although rare in Ashkenazi Cohanim (1.3%). In Southern Europe R1a1a is not common, but significant levels have been found in pockets, such as in the Pas Valley in Northern Spain, areas of Venice, and Calabria in Italy. The Balkans shows lower frequencies, and significant variation between areas, for example more than 30% in Slovenia, Croatia and Greek Macedonia, but less than 10% in Albania, Kosovo and parts of Greece. R1a is virtually composed only of the Z284 subclade in Scandinavia, which is only found in single sample of a Slovenian in Eastern Europe, where the main subclade is Z282 (Z280 and M458) and there is a negligible representation of Z93 in each region other than Turkey. The West Slavs and Hungarians are characterized by a high frequency of the subclade M458 and a low Z92, a subclade of Z280. Hundreds of samples of each Slovenians, and Czechs lack the Z92 subclade of Z280, while Poles, Slovaks, Croats and Hungarians only show a very low frequency of Z92. The Balts, East Slavs, Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgarians and Romanians demonstrate a ratio Z280>M458 and a high, up to a prevailing share of Z92. Balts and East Slavs have the same subclades and similar frequencies in a more detailed phylogeny of the subclades. The Russian geneticist Oleg Balanovsky speculated that there is a predominance of the assimilated pre-Slavic substrate in the genetics of East and West Slavic populations, according to him the common genetic structure which contrasts East Slavs and Balts from other populations may suggest the explanation that the pre-Slavic substrate of the East Slavs consisted most significantly of Baltic-speakers, which at one point predated the Slavs in the cultures of the Eurasian steppe according to archaeological and toponymic references. Asia Central Asia In Afghanistan, R1a1a is found at 51% among the Pashtuns who are the largest ethnic group in Afghanistan, 50% among the Kyrgyz, and 30% among the Tajiks. It is less frequent among the Hazaras (7%) and the Uzbeks (18%). South Asia In South Asia, R1a1a has often been observed with high frequency in a number of demographic groups. In India, high frequencies of this haplogroup is observed in West Bengal Brahmins (72%) to the east, Gurajat Lohanas (60%) to the west, Khatris (67%) in the north and Iyengar Brahmins (31%) in the south. It has also been found in several South Indian Dravidian-speaking Adivasis including the Chenchu (26%) and the Valmikis of Andhra Pradesh and the Kallar of Tamil Nadu suggesting that R1a1a is widespread in Tribal Southern Indians. Besides these, studies show high percentages in regionally diverse groups such as Manipuris to the extreme North East and among Punjabis (47%) to the extreme North West. In Pakistan it is found at 71% among the Mohanna tribe in Sindh province to the south and 46% among the Baltis of Gilgit-Baltistan to the north. Among the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka, 23% were found to be R1a1a (R-SRY1532) positive. Hindus of Chitwan District in the Terai region Nepal show it at 69%. East Asia The frequency of R1a1a is comparatively low among some Turkic-speaking groups including Turks, Azeris, Kazakhs, and Yakuts, yet levels are higher (19 to 28%) in certain Turkic or Mongolic-speaking groups of Northwestern China, such as the Bonan, Dongxiang, Salar, and Uyghurs. In Eastern Siberia, R1a1a is found among certain indigenous ethnic groups including Kamchatkans and Chukotkans, and peaking in Itel'man at 22%. West Asia R1a1a has been found in various forms, in most parts of Western Asia, in widely varying concentrations, from almost no presence in areas such as Jordan, to much higher levels in parts of Kuwait, Turkey and Iran. The Shimar (Shammar) Bedouin tribe in Kuwait show the highest frequency in the Middle East at 43%. Wells 2001, noted that in the western part of the country, Iranians show low R1a1a levels, while males of eastern parts of Iran carried up to 35% R1a1a. Nasidze 2004 found R1a1a in approximately 20% of Iranian males from the cities of Tehran and Isfahan. Regueiro 2006 in a study of Iran, noted much higher frequencies in the south than the north. A newer Study has found 20.3% R-M17* among Kurdish samples which were taken in the Kurdistan Province in western Iran, 9.7% among Mazandaranis in North Iran in the province of Mazandaran, 9.4% among Gilaks in province of Gilan, 12.8% among Persian and 17.6% among Zoroastrians in Yazd, 18.2% among Persians in Isfahan, 20.3% among Persians in Khorasan, 16.7% Afro-Iranians, 18.4% Qeshmi "Gheshmi", 21.4% among Persian Speaking Bandari people in Hormozgan and 25% among the Baloch people in Sistan and Baluchestan Province. Further to the north of these Middle Eastern regions on the other hand, R1a1a levels start to increase in the Caucasus, once again in an uneven way. Several populations studied have shown no sign of R1a1a, while highest levels so far discovered in the region appears to belong to speakers of the Karachay-Balkar language among whom about one quarter of men tested so far are in haplogroup R1a1a.
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Post by oleg on Dec 18, 2017 6:05:38 GMT
My subclade is Z92>YP569. What do you think about it's origins – Slavic, Baltic, smth else? It's very common in Russia and Belarus, about 10% of men population.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 6:10:31 GMT
Would this mean that aryans have same paternal ancestry, but different maternal ancestry?
Sort of, these warrior bred with the local girls in those era?
Because, even in vedas, it is mentioend that because our 'PITR' FATHERS are same, we belong to same fraternity.
Really don't know what to make out of this, though.
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Post by oleg on Dec 18, 2017 6:14:36 GMT
Indo-European groups are not 100% R1a, they also have "local" Y-DNA in each area.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 6:15:13 GMT
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 18, 2017 6:59:22 GMT
My subclade is Z92>YP569. What do you think about it's origins – Slavic, Baltic, smth else? It's very common in Russia and Belarus, about 10% of men population. I wonder from what region your roots on the paternal side?
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Post by oleg on Dec 18, 2017 7:06:07 GMT
Saratov region, probably cossacks. They wore a uniform when it was restricted for simple people.
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