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Post by greatestiam on Apr 26, 2019 22:02:06 GMT
Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Love without reciprocity, works and deeds, according to scriptures and Jesus’ own words, not that a supernatural Jesus ever existed, is not a true love.
All you need to do, to know the truth of that notion; is to look at your own standards of love.
You would not love someone who does not return that love, as that is more a stalkers kind of love.
Some Christians and other believers will not see that. Most who are not led by faith, generally accept the truth stated above.
This link, in its message, gives about the same notion.
Your thoughts?
imgur.com/a/CIce4
Regards
DL
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Post by Elizabeth on May 10, 2019 20:55:42 GMT
Stalking is incorrect thinking.
Here's an example.
Today I was in one of my classes with my students. I can see all the students and I know them. It's not that I'm stalking them but it's because they're in my room and I can see them. I'm not blind and can look around my room to make sure they're doing what they should. This is what I noticed looking at one of my classrooms today...
1. Students working
2. Students talking
3. Students trying to change seats
4. And one students trying to be in my class who isn't and then getting taken out and in trouble
None of that is me stalking but just looking aroung my room. Earth is God's room. He's omnipresnt and can see everything. So when He just looks around the earth room as I look around the classroom it's not stalking. It's us using our eyes to simply look around. Would be kind of dumb to close your eyes and pretend to be blind when you have sight, won't it?
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Post by greatestiam on May 18, 2019 14:15:29 GMT
Thanks for sharing your fantasy.
Omnipresent?
Does god watch you having sex?
Regards
DL
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Post by Elizabeth on May 18, 2019 17:59:27 GMT
It's not a fantasy. Unless you keep your eyes closed all your life when you have sight. That makes you delusional and stupid. Also a human that has the ability to walk won't crawl or ride in a wheelchair unless he's lazy or dumb thinking his legs don't exist.
And yeah omnipresnt is real. Some other things that are omnipresent in a way is air but only if you're outside. You can be in China, US, Antarctica, or anywhere and it'll still be air there for you to breath. The only thing different with air and God is God can't disappear but air can disappear from being omnipresent.
And no one watches you. Air isn't watching you neither is God. Air has a mission to do so it focuses on that. God has a mission to do so He focuses on that but when God uses His sight He can see you any time. This is called looking around not stalking. It's just basic common sense of people with sight. If you have sight you're not automatically a stalker. Using your sight does not make you automatically a stalker. That's insane thinking.
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Post by greatestiam on May 19, 2019 20:40:26 GMT
It's not a fantasy. Unless you keep your eyes closed all your life when you have sight. That makes you delusional and stupid. Also a human that has the ability to walk won't crawl or ride in a wheelchair unless he's lazy or dumb thinking his legs don't exist. And yeah omnipresnt is real. Some other things that are omnipresent in a way is air but only if you're outside. You can be in China, US, Antarctica, or anywhere and it'll still be air there for you to breath. The only thing different with air and God is God can't disappear but air can disappear from being omnipresent. And no one watches you. Air isn't watching you neither is God. Air has a mission to do so it focuses on that. God has a mission to do so He focuses on that but when God uses His sight He can see you any time. This is called looking around not stalking. It's just basic common sense of people with sight. If you have sight you're not automatically a stalker. Using your sight does not make you automatically a stalker. That's insane thinking. Your last is true and the rest is stupidity.
What makes Jesus a stalker is his threat to you if you should happen to shut the door in his face.
I hope you are young enough to not stay stupid all of your life.
Your religion begins with saying that god is unfathomable, unknowable and works in mysterious ways.
Everything you say about god must them be a lie according to your own religion.
Shame on you for lying so much about a god you can never know, according to your4 own religious leaders.
Lying is not good. Stop it.
Regards DL
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Post by Elizabeth on May 19, 2019 23:19:02 GMT
It's not a fantasy. Unless you keep your eyes closed all your life when you have sight. That makes you delusional and stupid. Also a human that has the ability to walk won't crawl or ride in a wheelchair unless he's lazy or dumb thinking his legs don't exist. And yeah omnipresnt is real. Some other things that are omnipresent in a way is air but only if you're outside. You can be in China, US, Antarctica, or anywhere and it'll still be air there for you to breath. The only thing different with air and God is God can't disappear but air can disappear from being omnipresent. And no one watches you. Air isn't watching you neither is God. Air has a mission to do so it focuses on that. God has a mission to do so He focuses on that but when God uses His sight He can see you any time. This is called looking around not stalking. It's just basic common sense of people with sight. If you have sight you're not automatically a stalker. Using your sight does not make you automatically a stalker. That's insane thinking. Your last is true and the rest is stupidity.
What makes Jesus a stalker is his threat to you if you should happen to shut the door in his face.
I hope you are young enough to not stay stupid all of your life.
Your religion begins with saying that god is unfathomable, unknowable and works in mysterious ways.
Everything you say about god must them be a lie according to your own religion.
Shame on you for lying so much about a god you can never know, according to your4 own religious leaders.
Lying is not good. Stop it.
Regards DL
Only my last part is true? I guess you walk around with eyes closed to pretend to be blind or pretend you can't walk to spend your day in a wheelchair? That's just ridiculous  What retarded religious leaders have I mentioned that I followed? Jesus is the last one to be a threat to me. That's just silly. Your own parents are more treacherous than Jesus. I mean you can close the door in His face but that's like rejected the best friend and parent you'd ever have and had. Plain stupid.  |
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Post by DKTrav88 on May 20, 2019 3:48:28 GMT
Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Love without reciprocity, works and deeds, according to scriptures and Jesus’ own words, not that a supernatural Jesus ever existed, is not a true love.
All you need to do, to know the truth of that notion; is to look at your own standards of love.
You would not love someone who does not return that love, as that is more a stalkers kind of love.
Some Christians and other believers will not see that. Most who are not led by faith, generally accept the truth stated above.
This link, in its message, gives about the same notion.
Your thoughts?
imgur.com/a/CIce4
Regards
DL
How can people find true love by looking at their own standards of love? A serial killer wouldn’t have the same standards as you or I, yet you are saying to know true love is for the serial killer to go by their own standards. Another person may, by their own standard, think love is only when others love them and they do not have to love others at all. Do you believe in the golden rule? |
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Post by greatestiam on May 20, 2019 11:39:02 GMT
Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Love without reciprocity, works and deeds, according to scriptures and Jesus’ own words, not that a supernatural Jesus ever existed, is not a true love.
All you need to do, to know the truth of that notion; is to look at your own standards of love.
You would not love someone who does not return that love, as that is more a stalkers kind of love.
Some Christians and other believers will not see that. Most who are not led by faith, generally accept the truth stated above.
This link, in its message, gives about the same notion.
Your thoughts?
imgur.com/a/CIce4
Regards
DL
How can people find true love by looking at their own standards of love? A serial killer wouldn’t have the same standards as you or I, yet you are saying to know true love is for the serial killer to go by their own standards. Another person may, by their own standard, think love is only when others love them and they do not have to love others at all. Do you believe in the golden rule?
Do try to relate to the O.P. instead of pure deflection.
How can people find true love when looking at a standard from Jesus that says, love me or I will make you suffer in hell for a long time?
I do believe in the Golden Rule, yes. I try hard to live by it and I do not see Jesus living by it in the ideology Christians believe. That is why they try to soft sell hell into us just being separated from god, while they try to dodge what their ideology actually teaches.
Regards DL
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Post by joustos on May 20, 2019 15:13:05 GMT
Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?
Love without reciprocity, works and deeds, according to scriptures and Jesus’ own words, not that a supernatural Jesus ever existed, is not a true love.
All you need to do, to know the truth of that notion; is to look at your own standards of love.
You would not love someone who does not return that love, as that is more a stalkers kind of love.
Some Christians and other believers will not see that. Most who are not led by faith, generally accept the truth stated above.
This link, in its message, gives about the same notion.
Your thoughts?
imgur.com/a/CIce4
Regards
DL
Greatestiam: I am disappointed by the choice of your user name, because he who employs it seems to be talking about himself rather than to another person. (Try to use an Indo-European name in the vocative or in the nominative case for a better fellowship with other humans, like Marce/Marcus. In your ID. display you say that Agnostic Christianity is the best religion, but I wonder whether there is such a religion (besides the historic sect of Christians who believed in the "secret teachings" of Jesus. It would be instructive for us if you were able to reveal them.
Coming to the topic of your thread: I take "Jesus/Yahweh" to mean "either Jesus or Yahweh". In the case of Yahweh, there is scriptural evidence that he loved His people, but not mankind, for he bade His people to kill their enemies -- every man, woman, and child. However, there would be no reason for admitting the alternative, namely that Yahweh stalks us humans...…….
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Post by greatestiam on May 20, 2019 16:41:13 GMT
That is Gnostic Christianity, although the root word was the same. You might know a bit about us by what the inquisitors put out to justify their mass murders of us but please start by knowing that we have no supernatural beliefs even though our myths are based on the supernatural. We wrote those to put against the supernatural Christian myth when everyone knew better than to read myths literally.
I do not see either of the two main Jesus' in scriptures as having a secret teaching. I do see the Rome created Jesus as having a simple version of his beliefs and expressing that in parables for the less astute and having his more complicated version for his more astute disciples.
The Gnostic Christian Jesus just tells us to look within with either version to glean all the deeper aspects of the parable or more complicated version.
Coming to the topic of your thread: I take "Jesus/Yahweh" to mean "either Jesus or Yahweh". Jesus will basically says the same thing upon his return.
Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.
Scriptures also say that god never changes and that would include his attitudes.
Jesus said that Jew, Gentile etc. were basically all of his people so to try to say that god is only the god of some and not of others would be wrong as all souls are created equal, even though the church has tried to make women and gays inferior to men.
That shows how the bible was authored by immoral men and not a good god.
Gnostic Christianity has tied equality to righteousness and Christians and Muslims show how unrighteous they are by denigrating and discriminating against women and gays without a just cause.
Regards DL
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