Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 6, 2019 3:18:16 GMT
For those not familiar with my views on homosexuality, I will make them very clear and why I hold them. Homosexuality is an abomination. It is an act that used to be self evidently held to be so disgusting, so distasteful, so perverse that it was considered immoral. Now mainly because many people in Hollywood held this perversion and worked through movies, television, and their influence on liberals to normalize their disgusting behavior it is no longer considered immoral by the sheep that make up American society it must be explained clearly WHY exactly it is immoral so in this thread I intend to do so.
My argument for why homosexuality is immoral rests on the fact that there are things so disgusting, so distasteful, and so perverse that they are immoral though they do not directly and immediately hurt anyone except the people partaking in said thing.
Now many people's moral compass rests on the assumption that "if it's not hurting anybody it's not wrong." Well, those people are hypocrites because I can easily name something right now that hurts nobody but is obviously wrong. That thing is bestiality. Having sex with an animal... say your dog. Now you may object and say, "the dog is getting hurt here!" And to that, I answer, "what if the dog gives consent?" And they obviously do all the time. Anyone who spends time with an unneutered or unspayed dog knows that those animals want to get it on with everyone and everything. They are always trying to hump you and they at that moment are very willing to screw you. Now someone here might say, "a dog is like a child it doesn't have the mental capacity to consent to sex." This argument is nonsense because unless you are insane you believe that dogs absolutely do have the capacity to consent to have sex with each other. If they have the right to consent to have sex with each other and they want to have sex with you a human who are you to say its wrong for the human to give his consent as well and fulfill that lecherous dog's lust?
Let's go a step further. Say a scientist found a way to genetically alter dogs to where they are as smart as human beings. If those dogs, every bit as smart and sentient as human beings say, "I want a human for a lover" and a human consents, unless you are insane I believe fully that you will think that this is wrong. Why would you think these indiscretions in these scenarios are wrong? Because it is so distasteful, so perverse, so wrong, that it is immoral.
There are many deviancies that fit the category of, "well, they aren't hurting anybody." Incest for example. If a man has a vasectomy where he cannot have children and then marries his sister and has sex with her most people would say that's wrong, disgusting, and abominable and treat someone that did this very badly (I don't think they should be treated badly no matter how immoral it is.) Homosexuality used to be one of these things until Hollywood gays got a hold of the left. And if a large number of bestialphils, incest enthusiasts, polygamous people,(and I am even convinced so stupid and easily manipulated is the modern populace) pedophiles were running Hollywood, making movies and TV shows Will and Grace style glorifying it, polluting politics with their dirty money, and molding your imbecilic minds in this fashion you would defend these with as much vigor and indignation as you do homosexuality. Your thoughts are not your own, your culture and its corruption control you.
The proper role of sex is between married males and females of the same species and unrelated; anything other than this is an unnatural abomination.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 11, 2019 16:56:24 GMT
Doesn't it say in the Bible somewhere that you'd get stoned for being gay or something. That's under the old covenant. God wanted to keep the earth cleansed of homosexuals and adulterers and fornicators but the people started killing whoever they wanted like Christians and others even since power got to their heads basically. God said no more of killing and to leave the punishment to Him only. New Testament covenant was implemented to get rid of the old one when God rejected the people who falsely were following Him.
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Post by jonbain on Apr 11, 2019 19:48:56 GMT
Most here have the correct instinct, but lack the analytical nous to really understand the issue and its causes, as well as consequences. The reason we find it distasteful is primarily in the male variety. Careful reading of the Bible on this issue shows that it is only ever referred to as sinful in the male context. But let us look at it logically. If people were promoting the right to teach that 1+1=1, we may laugh at first. But then as accounting became a disaster, and your salary floated around, and hyper inflation took over, it would start to get un-funny and revolting. So if some person did a silly thing and then regretted it, they have nothing to worry about so long as they learn from it. Now consider it from the point of psychology. We do not consider a neurotic person who has a fear of heights as being reprehensible. But if such a person decided they had the right to be an air-line pilot, and disasters occurred, then it would not be neuroses, but instead it would be outright pathology. So when the said community started demanding the right to adopt, it became clear to me that this was not always a neuroses, but instead it has now become a pathology. It would be just as intensely problematic if the community of those that teach 1+1=1 insisted on being math teachers. As for the causes. We have to appreciate that any psychological mindset can occur for numerous reasons, so do not make the error of putting them all in one boat. Unless its a holy boat! But what can be done about it? That is a far more serious issue and few even scratch the surface of this. Because the causes cannot be eradicated by violence, because they would long since have died out of this were true. The condition is not genetic for the same clear reason. It has zero survival value. But the way gender is constructed is vastly different for men and women, that is why the Bible ignores the female variety. Clovis Merovingian anaxagoras Elizabeth Sonny www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A18-32&version=KJV Read Romans 1:26 and 1:27. Seems like you may be correct. But I am not certain, because, "unnatural" can be taken to mean other things like prostitution. Also, the Bible typically mentions it as a male issue. Not that I am suggesting it is ok in the female context. I am trying to show that a woman does have a natural physical attraction to as a subconscious desire for mother's milk. But a man has to be quite twisted, to become that way. The only way it will be eradicated is to fully understand its psychological causes; and that means that Freud and older developmental psychology needs to be re-discovered.
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Post by PISTON1246 on Apr 12, 2019 20:41:46 GMT
WHAT HAPPENED TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH IS A GOOD STORY TO ME AND I THINK IT IS A TRUE STORY AS WELL.
I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THE DEATH OF A MAN WHO HAS BEEN CAUGHT HAVING SEX WITH ANOTHER MAN.
ACCORDING TO GENESIS PROPHET LOT WAS A STRAIGHT MAN MARRIED TO A WOMAN AND HE AND HIS WIFE AND HIS TWO DAUGHTERS WERE TOLD BY THE ANGELS VISITING SODOM TO EVACUATE THE CITY BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT DESTROY IT WHILE THEY WERE THERE.
GOD SPARED THE LIVES OF THE RIGHTEOUS WHILE HE EXTERMINATED THE WICKED. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Apr 29, 2019 20:32:50 GMT
HS is a medical and psychological disaster. Evolution doesn't make mistakes. People, who think that they are thinking, makes mistakes all the time. A Molested Generation Loses the Will to Survive It's not even a sexuality; it is an addictive and obsessive fetish, a mental disease that should be called "proctophilia" by psychiatrists who weren't trying to get rich by being the only outsiders telling their desperate patient that he is normal. If there wasn't something seriously dangerous to society about it, Gayism should have been an evolutionary choice. Instead, to limit population to the limited ability to develop resources, mankind chose infanticide, genocide, and human sacrifice.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Apr 29, 2019 20:46:42 GMT
If only they would repent otherwise God can do His righteous judgement. I'm in support of God's actions even the one He did in Sodom and Gomorrah. So when God says it's time then He can pour out His wrath. It will happen. And Christians must support God's plans. What I'm saying is that I'd rather not have God execute his judgment. I'd rather them repent and avoid his judgment. God doesn't enjoy destroying people even when justified in doing it and neither should we. I don't think that it is right to look in eager anticipation of the death of gays and God's judgment on them. I think that this actually meets the level of hatred instead of Christian love. A Christian is supposed to hate the sin but love and pray for the people who commit said sin not wish for their deaths. But this is not a strictly religious issue, and never has been one before. A completely atheist society, if it wanted to stay healthy, would also condemn this dangerous and disgusting behavior. Pagan Rome did; its keen sense of what would make it strong, virile, and solidly together made it last 1200 years.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 29, 2019 21:32:52 GMT
What I'm saying is that I'd rather not have God execute his judgment. I'd rather them repent and avoid his judgment. God doesn't enjoy destroying people even when justified in doing it and neither should we. I don't think that it is right to look in eager anticipation of the death of gays and God's judgment on them. I think that this actually meets the level of hatred instead of Christian love. A Christian is supposed to hate the sin but love and pray for the people who commit said sin not wish for their deaths. But this is not a strictly religious issue, and never has been one before. A completely atheist society, if it wanted to stay healthy, would also condemn this dangerous and disgusting behavior. Pagan Rome did; its keen sense of what would make it strong, virile, and solidly together made it last 1200 years. I absolutely agree which is why I didn't mention religion in my original argument. If I were an atheist I would be anti homosexuality as well.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Apr 29, 2019 21:46:50 GMT
The only way it will be eradicated is to fully understand its psychological causes; and that means that Freud and older developmental psychology needs to be re-discovered. Feminism Creates Unnatural Males One cause is that if the father is dominated by the mother, the son wants to become a woman. For example, Anderson Cooper's father was the trophy husband of a billionaire heiress. It's also a Peter Pan syndrome, fear of growing up. Even the quarterback on our undefeated football team was afraid of his first kiss; after that, as usual, no problem. I'm sure pedophiles are playing on that natural fear of jumping right into life's passages.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Apr 29, 2019 21:52:12 GMT
WHAT HAPPENED TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH IS A GOOD STORY TO ME AND I THINK IT IS A TRUE STORY AS WELL. I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THE DEATH OF A MAN WHO HAS BEEN CAUGHT HAVING SEX WITH ANOTHER MAN. ACCORDING TO GENESIS PROPHET LOT WAS A STRAIGHT MAN MARRIED TO A WOMAN AND HE AND HIS WIFE AND HIS TWO DAUGHTERS WERE TOLD BY THE ANGELS VISITING SODOM TO EVACUATE THE CITY BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT DESTROY IT WHILE THEY WERE THERE. GOD SPARED THE LIVES OF THE RIGHTEOUS WHILE HE EXTERMINATED THE WICKED. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. If the Greeks Were Really Into This, They Never Would Have Cared What Happened to Helen of TroyA secular interpretation would be that it was a prehistoric outbreak of AIDS that destroyed those degenerate cities. It also caused the plague in Athens during its war with Sparta.
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Post by usfan on Apr 30, 2019 12:56:24 GMT
My arguments against homosexuality: 1. It is unnatural. Sex is a procedure for procreation between male and female in a species. 2. The parts are not designed for the purpose. Anal sex damages delicate membranes. Old gays have medical problems from constant buggering. 3. It conflicts with evolutionary theory. Why does homosexuality increase in a dying, decadent society? It is not positive for the advancement of the species. 4. It corrupts the family structure, the core building block of a sucessful society.
Homosexuality is just another immoral action, common to man. Like adultery, fornication, stealing or lying, it stings the conscience of the participants, until it is numbed to violations.
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Post by usfan on Apr 30, 2019 13:00:18 GMT
But this is not a strictly religious issue, and never has been one before. A completely atheist society, if it wanted to stay healthy, would also condemn this dangerous and disgusting behavior. Pagan Rome did; its keen sense of what would make it strong, virile, and solidly together made it last 1200 years. I absolutely agree which is why I didn't mention religion in my original argument. If I were an atheist I would be anti homosexuality as well. ..which they have done. Communist Russia was not sympathetic to homosexuality, nor Cuba, which exported their imprisoned gays to Florida.
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Post by jonbain on May 1, 2019 20:53:22 GMT
The only way it will be eradicated is to fully understand its psychological causes; and that means that Freud and older developmental psychology needs to be re-discovered. Feminism Creates Unnatural Males One cause is that if the father is dominated by the mother, the son wants to become a woman. For example, Anderson Cooper's father was the trophy husband of a billionaire heiress. It's also a Peter Pan syndrome, fear of growing up. Even the quarterback on our undefeated football team was afraid of his first kiss; after that, as usual, no problem. I'm sure pedophiles are playing on that natural fear of jumping right into life's passages. Yes! finally some analysis of the matter. Another way to put it is that the woman should always have a higher EQ than the man. But I do not think feminism was meant as woman being dominant. Though it may have come to mean that in some societies. But in a truly chivalrous society, there would be no motivation for the word 'feminism' in either sense.
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Post by Sonny on May 3, 2019 6:08:47 GMT
What I'm saying is that I'd rather not have God execute his judgment. I'd rather them repent and avoid his judgment. God doesn't enjoy destroying people even when justified in doing it and neither should we. I don't think that it is right to look in eager anticipation of the death of gays and God's judgment on them. I think that this actually meets the level of hatred instead of Christian love. A Christian is supposed to hate the sin but love and pray for the people who commit said sin not wish for their deaths. But this is not a strictly religious issue, and never has been one before. A completely atheist society, if it wanted to stay healthy, would also condemn this dangerous and disgusting behavior. Pagan Rome did; its keen sense of what would make it strong, virile, and solidly together made it last 1200 years. Source on Pagan Rome?
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on May 3, 2019 18:22:34 GMT
Feminism Creates Unnatural Males One cause is that if the father is dominated by the mother, the son wants to become a woman. For example, Anderson Cooper's father was the trophy husband of a billionaire heiress. It's also a Peter Pan syndrome, fear of growing up. Even the quarterback on our undefeated football team was afraid of his first kiss; after that, as usual, no problem. I'm sure pedophiles are playing on that natural fear of jumping right into life's passages. Yes! finally some analysis of the matter. Another way to put it is that the woman should always have a higher EQ than the man. But I do not think feminism was meant as woman being dominant. Though it may have come to mean that in some societies. But in a truly chivalrous society, there would be no motivation for the word 'feminism' in either sense. Darth EvaderThe results of unnatural couples are a lead into the true character of the two. Despite his tough-guy media image, the fact that Dick Cheney's daughter is a Lesbian explains intentionally overlooked facts about him: 1. He got his start by being the boytoy of his town's only millionaire. 2. Finally rejecting that, he went the opposite way and became slavishly submissive to his wife. 3. His unpatriotic cowardice in weaseling out of fighting the Communists, his ideology's most hated enemy. His wealth is a separate factor from unmanliness in perverting Blessed Virgin Mary Cheney, of the Immaculate Conception. Back before the Great Silencing of the 1960s, it was well-known that Gayism was primarily a fad of the born-rich, the result of the wandering pleasure-seeking experimentation of these anti-democratic spoiled degenerates and their feeling that they are above even the laws of human nature.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on May 3, 2019 18:30:25 GMT
But this is not a strictly religious issue, and never has been one before. A completely atheist society, if it wanted to stay healthy, would also condemn this dangerous and disgusting behavior. Pagan Rome did; its keen sense of what would make it strong, virile, and solidly together made it last 1200 years. Source on Pagan Rome? BIG SISSY IS WATCHING YOU The sources studied by Colleen McCullough for her seven novels about Rome. Besides, it is a characteristic of a strong, productive, and long-lasting civilization, which should be a warning that the Gayist Mafia will destroy us in the near future.
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Post by Sonny on May 3, 2019 18:47:51 GMT
BIG SISSY IS WATCHING YOU The sources studied by Colleen McCullough for her seven novels about Rome. Besides, it is a characteristic of a strong, productive, and long-lasting civilization, which should be a warning that the Gayist Mafia will destroy us in the near future. So she writes fiction. I do not know what her sources are, in any case, your statement on sexuality in Rome is not true. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome
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