Proliferator
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Hitler
Feb 1, 2019 23:09:32 GMT
Post by Proliferator on Feb 1, 2019 23:09:32 GMT
From the very beginning and to the end of our life we are being taught to operate with different objects by other people. Be that a spoon, a computer, a car, a plane, a weapon, you name it. Certainly, not everything has to be taught, an individual can figure it out by himself and that happens frequently. We are taught to believe in something we are told and in the majority of cases people are not even opposing those beliefs, they just believe in it right away without any reasoning.
How does an individual not adequately knowledgeable in one specific area can assert that this guy did this and that, yet he does not have any evidence justifying his position, he just tells something he had been told by others, years before in an educational institution. Think about how every teacher of history ever, I do not have anything against them by the way, tells youngsters that Hitler was a bad person and that under his dictatorship a lot of people died and how his infamous influence affected numerous countries negatively. Yet, they do not say why he killed, they do not say why the war began, they just say what an everyday person needs to know, he is a bad person, in other words, basic information which is not even analyzed and yet is predisposed as a universal truth.
I am not necessarily positioning myself as a Nazi, the country I live in has also been affected dramatically by Nazi Germany, I just think that people are easily indoctrinated in a belief in which they do not even know anything about those facts, they just know that they are true and that is all they need to know, no argumentation whatsoever.
So I recently became interested in WWII specifically and started to study it here and there, nothing serious, just casually gathering information and I found out the majority of finance networking in Germany in that time was occupied by top tier Jewish fat cats and before my superficial investigation I also, as the majority of people, thought that Hitler was bad in every single aspect. However, under his dictatorship, German banks were almost eradicated of the presence of the Jewish elite. Does not that predispose Hitler as a national hero if seen through the eyes of German masses?
To have another perspective consider this example. Country X stagnates in a great depression and then guy Y comes and destroys Z community to relieve Country X from stagnation, does that automatically mean that Y must be shown to the world as the ultimate embodiment of evil? Sure enough, he is a bad person, but I do not understand why people are not being told other perspectives of whatever situation given.
Feel free to go harsh on me as I am not adequately knowledgeable on the given subject, just wanted to share my insight.
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Hitler
Feb 1, 2019 23:29:31 GMT
Post by Elizabeth on Feb 1, 2019 23:29:31 GMT
Is your view of Hitler positive or negative then?
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Hitler
Feb 2, 2019 4:38:08 GMT
Post by fschmidt on Feb 2, 2019 4:38:08 GMT
Have you read Mein Kampf?
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Hitler
Feb 4, 2019 8:00:40 GMT
Post by Eugene 2.0 on Feb 4, 2019 8:00:40 GMT
Do you support the idea of Holocaust?
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Post by yavuzkralkargisig on Apr 27, 2019 14:24:47 GMT
We have us a little fascist here!! WHy the concentration on a man who failed so utterly? He produced nothing new, his ideology was a rehash of the usual bullshit, half Nietche, half Georg Ritter von Schönerer, and he only got into power because the German ruling elite needed a demagogue. He was a pervert, had an affair with his niece, who killed herself shortly after, tried to get into art school, but was told he would make a better architect, which is hardly damning, ran away from Austria to avoid the draft but, skint, ends up in the Bavarian Light Infantry. he is such a great warrior they make him a messenger boy, but he still manages to get himself gassed.
After the war he is recruited by the skeleton high command because he has the gift of the gab, and has little success - enjoying popularity only in the border regions where the German workers were having to compete with immigrants. With the likes of Ludendorf, tries to stage a coup and has his juggernaut stopped by the Munich police. Goes to jail, writes Mein Kampf which is a half baked rehash of various doctrines including Marxism, comes out, again because the German high command use himas a puppet, wins an election and is in power six years before war, fucks everything up, and sees his country divided between his enemies, and, appropraitely shoots himself. Great role model.
If you are interested in the economic improvements, read 'Politicians and the Slumop' by Bob Skidelsky. Keynes, Roosevelt and others defeated the slump without murdering millions. If you had lived in Germany as I did after the war you would have seen the mutilated men who had had their lives ruined by this loser, begging outside the shopping centre. And you want to talk about Jewish fatcats!! Read more and be more careful WHAT you read.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 27, 2019 19:07:09 GMT
We have us a little fascist here!! WHy the concentration on a man who failed so utterly? He produced nothing new, his ideology was a rehash of the usual bullshit, half Nietche, half Georg Ritter von Schönerer, and he only got into power because the German ruling elite needed a demagogue. He was a pervert, had an affair with his niece, who killed herself shortly after, tried to get into art school, but was told he would make a better architect, which is hardly damning, ran away from Austria to avoid the draft but, skint, ends up in the Bavarian Light Infantry. he is such a great warrior they make him a messenger boy, but he still manages to get himself gassed. After the war he is recruited by the skeleton high command because he has the gift of the gab, and has little success - enjoying popularity only in the border regions where the German workers were having to compete with immigrants. With the likes of Ludendorf, tries to stage a coup and has his juggernaut stopped by the Munich police. Goes to jail, writes Mein Kampf which is a half baked rehash of various doctrines including Marxism, comes out, again because the German high command use himas a puppet, wins an election and is in power six years before war, fucks everything up, and sees his country divided between his enemies, and, appropraitely shoots himself. Great role model. If you are interested in the economic improvements, read 'Politicians and the Slumop' by Bob Skidelsky. Keynes, Roosevelt and others defeated the slump without murdering millions. If you had lived in Germany as I did after the war you would have seen the mutilated men who had had their lives ruined by this loser, begging outside the shopping centre. And you want to talk about Jewish fatcats!! Read more and be more careful WHAT you read. I think I learned more about Hitler in this one post of hours than in all those history hours at school. What would you say caused Hitler to become such a murderous monster? |
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Hitler
May 2, 2019 19:34:30 GMT
Post by thesageofmainstreet on May 2, 2019 19:34:30 GMT
From the very beginning and to the end of our life we are being taught to operate with different objects by other people. Be that a spoon, a computer, a car, a plane, a weapon, you name it. Certainly, not everything has to be taught, an individual can figure it out by himself and that happens frequently. We are taught to believe in something we are told and in the majority of cases people are not even opposing those beliefs, they just believe in it right away without any reasoning. How does an individual not adequately knowledgeable in one specific area can assert that this guy did this and that, yet he does not have any evidence justifying his position, he just tells something he had been told by others, years before in an educational institution. Think about how every teacher of history ever, I do not have anything against them by the way, tells youngsters that Hitler was a bad person and that under his dictatorship a lot of people died and how his infamous influence affected numerous countries negatively. Yet, they do not say why he killed, they do not say why the war began, they just say what an everyday person needs to know, he is a bad person, in other words, basic information which is not even analyzed and yet is predisposed as a universal truth. I am not necessarily positioning myself as a Nazi, the country I live in has also been affected dramatically by Nazi Germany, I just think that people are easily indoctrinated in a belief in which they do not even know anything about those facts, they just know that they are true and that is all they need to know, no argumentation whatsoever. So I recently became interested in WWII specifically and started to study it here and there, nothing serious, just casually gathering information and I found out the majority of finance networking in Germany in that time was occupied by top tier Jewish fat cats and before my superficial investigation I also, as the majority of people, thought that Hitler was bad in every single aspect. However, under his dictatorship, German banks were almost eradicated of the presence of the Jewish elite. Does not that predispose Hitler as a national hero if seen through the eyes of German masses? To have another perspective consider this example. Country X stagnates in a great depression and then guy Y comes and destroys Z community to relieve Country X from stagnation, does that automatically mean that Y must be shown to the world as the ultimate embodiment of evil? Sure enough, he is a bad person, but I do not understand why people are not being told other perspectives of whatever situation given. Feel free to go harsh on me as I am not adequately knowledgeable on the given subject, just wanted to share my insight. If the Jews had been that powerful, they would have destroyed Naziism before it got beyond 5% of the vote. Hitler's own success contradicted his scapegoating paranoia. |
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