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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 14, 2019 1:19:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 3:56:43 GMT
Nice, no. Passionate self sacrifice, yes. Nice is a sub category of this, so in this respect nice does necessitate a higher IQ. However nice and Good, while connected, are not the same thing.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Feb 5, 2019 13:52:23 GMT
Yeah. There are plenty signs. I think that I know the answer on this question intuitively.
Many people notice some things, while the other ones use to be passed away. Like, for example, nationality. I never get this concept as a color of skin either. Strange signs I'd say. I've been arguing on different forums about this - nationality and skin colour, - and they've been sending me to hell each time. The language of us is hiding many interesting features, but we can't notice everything during the expressions. (I made a post about this in "A Baby Synthetic A Priori", but with a critical mistake there... Anyway, the problem is deeper, than we think.) Usually, we just repeat having been heard rarely trying to conclude something by us directly. This reason importantly barriers our transgression to next levels of understanding.
So, bringing back to the theme. I know the last paragraph was tiny left outside of the theme, but it might appeared like this. The link in our habits of appearance of reality. None knows what is it really, and that's why the concept of truth is so hard to obtain. Some signs that in logic is called essence signs, and other - non-important signs are variable from a person to a person, from a society to a society. I noticed that while having found something one, the other ones found things that differs from mine. And they usually told me that I'd been mistaken, and used one types of signs, than the rest. I don't know, maybe one type of signs are essence, while the other is not, but who decides it? The same situation is with the truth. But, some can say that some signs are more stable, while the other ones are less. It's true, although it doesn't change the situation, if some of signs are stayed ignored.
Ignoring some signs, and paying attention to the other is our habits. We used to do it. A hunter who haunts a rabbit in the snowfield while seeing some footprints that is likely to be left by a rabbit, will assume that the rabbit has left 'em. If it wasn't a rabbit, but something similar that he never saw in his life, he would make a mistake. The same is with many other examples.
What about a level of intelligence that could be visual? It can be found, but our habits barrier the vision of it. What is like to be an intelligent person (a person with high intelligence)? I think such person is able to think. Deeply. Accurately. Long enough. Complexly. Creatively. Ingeniously. Can these adjectives be good describers? If we found a person with a set of such adjectives, it wouldn't mean that he was it for real, such qualities could be deceptive. So, we don't need to conceive them, but rather we need to just live some period with these man, having conversations with his, etc. And we won't get is he intelligent, or not in 100%, but we will be able to answer on a question - what is he looks like, who's this man, what should we expect from him.
Sincere, honest, self-sacrifice, and friendly - are more useful qualities for describing a person. Not a cold view, but a view from a heart. A highly intelligent person (if he's not gone crazy) are needed words or things in this world, but feel pleasure to have conversations with people. He needs attention. Plain persons prefer to be local dictators, or utilitarians, evil persons - prefer to be nihilists, escapists. Just really intelligent people can love the other ones. And the one the highest intelligent person does it right now - He is God.
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Post by karl on Feb 5, 2019 19:20:58 GMT
I do not accept the notion that IQ tests accurately measure intelligence, nor do I believe they've found some objective way to measure whether someone is nice. But as far as what the study finds is true, I think it boils down to that niceness may not only be motivated by compassion, but also express a long term strategy. IQ tests do, to some degree, measure an individual's level of abstraction, and the strategic perspective requires abstraction. Someone who is low on compassion, while also being short sighted, will have no incentive to act nice. However, lacking compassion wouldn't prevent an intelligent person from realising that it's beneficial in a civilised society to act as if you're nicer than you really are. And people who fall into that category are often more dangerous than those who are too stupid to hide their malice.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Feb 5, 2019 19:41:10 GMT
Nice, no. Passionate self sacrifice, yes. Nice is a sub category of this, so in this respect nice does necessitate a higher IQ. However nice and Good, while connected, are not the same thing. I like what this guy said, he seems smarter than the rest of us. Too bad he left, we kind of needed him, at least I did.
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Post by Grizzly_Recluse on Jul 20, 2019 23:07:49 GMT
"Smart people are more cooperative and generous than unintelligent people" seems to be the thesis. I don't know if it can really be scientifically proven, but I have experienced this very phenomenon just the other day. I posted the same article on 2 different philosophy forums about morphic resonance. (I just realized I haven't posted it here.)It's a controversial topic. I was testing the waters. So on one site, people sneered at me, offering me no constructive comments at all. They must be ignorant. But now I can't find the post. On the other site, I got 3 very helpful informative comments, obviously intelligent and educated men. They suggested I read up on Bohm, Pierce and Laszlo, even naming the theories involved. Smart people are nice.
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